How do y'all feel about Afro Latinos

[King P]

That's why I stated they use certain terms!.

There are black latinos in America, but they assume a latino is black.

Actually, that's incorrect. People assume that a Latino is (brown) mixed.

I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about....

I've seen plenty of times where NBA fans talk about the best Latino players. Well one time, I saw a couple of lists, and none of them had Carmelo Anthony on it, who is Puerto Rican. I took offense to this, and mentioned it. I heard a whole bunch of excuses why he wasn't included, to which I shot them down and used Brook Lopez to prove my point.

"He's only half Latino"

Me: "So is Brook Lopez. He's only half Cuban, but yet he was on a couple of lists".

"But Melo's father dies, when he was young. Does Melo even rep his heritage?"

Me: "Yes his father died when he was young, but he still acknowledges his Rican heritage. And he has the PR flag tatted on his hand, and his always at the PR parade. That's more than I can say for Brook Lopez, who doesn't even acknowledge his Cuban heritage. And his father left when he was young, so he doesnt know him either".

"But Brook Lopez has a Spanish name. Lopez is Spanish. Melo doesn't have a Spanish name".

Me: "Yes he does. Carmelo is a Spanish name. And his actual surname is Irarte, which is definitely Spanish. And last time I checked, Brook isn't exactly a Spanish name either"

"But Melo doesn't look Latino"

"Yea I don't consider Melo to be Latino. I consider him to be Black"

And that's what it all came down to. If Melo was light skinned like Lopez, he would definitely be considered Latino. But he's not considered Latino because that's not what latinos are supposed to look like.

Now I am fully aware that there are Black Latinos. But not in the eyes of Americans.

When you think of Puerto Ricans, do you think of people that look like this...

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or this

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When you think of Dominicans do you think of this

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or this

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When you think of Cubans do you think of this

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or this

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When you think of Mexicans do you think of this

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or this

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These are rhetorical questions by the way. It's obviously the former in all those choices.

Once again, I'm not saying that there is no such thing as an Afro-Latino. All I'm saying is that Latino is a heavily racialized term, and the reason they don't considered Afro-Latinos to be Latinos is cuz they're "Black". And when people think of Latinos, they don't think of Black people.

 

[King P]

You never tried correcting her?

Yes I have. She just doesn't agree.

Even though she's completely wrong, it's not c00ning IMO. There are many Africans that feel the same way. I remember meeting a Nigerian, and somebody called him Black. he said "I'm not Black, I'm Nigerian". Would you say he was c00ning?

At least my mother acknowledges her African ancestry and is proud of it and proud to be dark skin. If she was c00ning, she wouldn't even be proud of that. Now Sammy Sosa bleaching his skin? THAT'S c00ning!

And I'm not much different. I acknowledge my African ancestry and am proud of it. But I don't call myself Black. Why? Because I don't feel Black. When most people look at me, they don't see a Black person. So I don't call myself Black. I won't get upset if somebody calls me Black. But I just don't label myself as Black. Is that c00ning? I don't think so

 

[Blackout]

Yes I have. She just doesn't agree.

Even though she's completely wrong, it's not c00ning IMO. There are many Africans that feel the same way. I remember meeting a Nigerian, and somebody called him Black. he said "I'm not Black, I'm Nigerian". Would you say he was c00ning?

At least my mother acknowledges her African ancestry and is proud of it and proud to be dark skin. If she was c00ning, she wouldn't even be proud of that. Now Sammy Sosa bleaching his skin? THAT'S c00ning!

And I'm not much different. I acknowledge my African ancestry and am proud of it. But I don't call myself Black. Why? Because I don't feel Black. When most people look at me, they don't see a Black person. So I don't call myself Black. I won't get upset if somebody calls me Black. But I just don't label myself as Black. Is that c00ning? I don't think so

Your still black at the end of the day tho. Whether or not you accept the truth is on you.

It's like trannys. They can call themselves the other gender but it ain't so at the end of the day.

 

[MostReal]

Spanish is nothing more than a language & culture to an extent.

But RACE... the world will let you know what the deal is quick & best believe you won't be called 'white'.

 

[King P]

Your still black at the end of the day tho. Whether or not you accept it is on you.

It's like trannys. They can call themselves the other gender but it ain't so at the end of the day.

Like I said, if you wanna call me Black then fine. I'll accept that. But when I wake up and look at myself in the mirror, I just don't see a Black man.

And most people don't. If I went around saying I'm Black, most people wouldn't believe me.

I remember at my job, there was a Black lady that complained about no Blacks working there. She talked to the manager about it and everything. The manager tried to point to me and said "we have him". And the lady looked at him and said "Nah he's not Black, he's Mexican"

 

[Blackout]

Like I said, if you wanna call me Black then fine. I'll accept that. But when I wake up and look at myself in the mirror, I just don't see a Black man.

And most people don't. If I went around saying I'm Black, most people wouldn't believe me.

I remember at my job, there was a Black lady that complained about no Blacks working there. She talked to the manager about it and everything. The manager tried to point to me and said "we have him". And the lady looked at him and said "Nah he's not Black, he's Mexican"

Well hey if you wanna let other people force you to stay delusional then that's on you.

Mexican is a nationality so your right in that reguard but as for your race your black.

Ill stick to reality at the end of the day.

 

[up in here]

ok, if you have African ancestry and from a Latin American country, I would not be mad at all if you identify as Black or Latino even if you dont "look Black". Now if you look stereotypically Black I would probably say that you are Black unless you correct me.

I got friends from Brazil and some of em dark and some of em light, and they told me when they was young they was divided into "pardo" (brown) and "preto" (black) but now they just call themselves "negro" and in the US they simply identify as Black from Brazil.

I also got a cousin who we call "white mike" who looks white but his mother is jet Black, he identifies as Black, and though we call him "white mike" we all see him as Black, its more just ironic cause he so light and his mom is so dark. Of course he could pass for white if he wanted to but he is quick to let people know he is Black and we all accept him as Black.

I think its in large about how you identify and present yourself. if you look Black but say that you are not Black, people might take it as if you look down on Black (African-American) people. if you dont look Black but you have African ancestry and you openly identify as Black in most instances people will accept you as Black.

 

[bouncy]

Actually, that's incorrect. People assume that a Latino is (brown) mixed.

I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about....

I've seen plenty of times where NBA fans talk about the best Latino players. Well one time, I saw a couple of lists, and none of them had Carmelo Anthony on it, who is Puerto Rican. I took offense to this, and mentioned it. I heard a whole bunch of excuses why he wasn't included, to which I shot them down and used Brook Lopez to prove my point.

"He's only half Latino"

Me: "So is Brook Lopez. He's only half Cuban, but yet he was on a couple of lists".

"But Melo's father dies, when he was young. Does Melo even rep his heritage?"

Me: "Yes his father died when he was young, but he still acknowledges his Rican heritage. And he has the PR flag tatted on his hand, and his always at the PR parade. That's more than I can say for Brook Lopez, who doesn't even acknowledge his Cuban heritage. And his father left when he was young, so he doesnt know him either".

"But Brook Lopez has a Spanish name. Lopez is Spanish. Melo doesn't have a Spanish name".

Me: "Yes he does. Carmelo is a Spanish name. And his actual surname is Irarte, which is definitely Spanish. And last time I checked, Brook isn't exactly a Spanish name either"

"But Melo doesn't look Latino"

"Yea I don't consider Melo to be Latino. I consider him to be Black"

And that's what it all came down to. If Melo was light skinned like Lopez, he would definitely be considered Latino. But he's not considered Latino because that's not what latinos are supposed to look like.

Now I am fully aware that there are Black Latinos. But not in the eyes of Americans.

When you think of Puerto Ricans, do you think of people that look like this...

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or this

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When you think of Dominicans do you think of this

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or this

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When you think of Cubans do you think of this

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or this

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When you think of Mexicans do you think of this

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or this

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These are rhetorical questions by the way. It's obviously the former in all those choices.

Once again, I'm not saying that there is no such thing as an Afro-Latino. All I'm saying is that Latino is a heavily racialized term, and the reason they don't considered Afro-Latinos to be Latinos is cuz they're "Black". And when people think of Latinos, they don't think of Black people.

My man, I already stated they think of people who look like they have black in them, as aLatin, and not white people. I think you are not getting it because you adhere to the black not being Latin thing, and giving me the run around.

Read that post again, and try to view it in the eyes of a racist system, and not a minority. I have been around enough whites to see they view latins as black, Africans as black, caribeans as black, and mixed latins as black. The only ones who get a pass for white sometimes is when they hear Mexican. All this talk from other blacks not calling themselves black is straight c00ning, and ignorant to this racist power structure. America is the big dog, and if you live here you better learn how.it works or you are in for a rude awakening. This is why I laugh when foreigners get shocked when racism.hits their ass, and they are so shocked when they are treated like a ******. When you are real with yourself, you know how to deal with bullshyt, and the racism isn't a shock.

 

[up in here]

To their credit, a lot of them mean they aren't Black American, not necessarily black in race. But, a lot of them do play that not black as in race bullshyt. A lot of the islands are not given high quality education, especially in history, so I can understand why they don't really know how the world truly is or was.

That's why it's important to me to claim I'm an American, and not African-American because that gives the impression to foreigners that this isn't your land, even though our group helped built this country. The reasons why the U.S.A. is rich is because they didn't have to pay slaves. The reason why it is known for it's entertainment, that the whole world has copied, is because of the slaves influence. You never hear anyone call whites, white-American, they just call them American. They even have the nerves to call a blue eyed, blond haired white person, All American, when in reality, most white people don't have blond hair naturally, and blacks have been here since the beginning of this country, and effected it good, and bad, just like whites did. I'm an American, and black is my race, and my ancestors were African.

I identify as African-American because my history is here in America but it didn't begin here. My heritage is in Africa. as far as whites, you have Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans, and some others. And yes some simply identify as American, but that is bullshyt. The only true people of this land are the Native Americans and they have their own names that they use to identify. Everyone else comes from somewhere else, Black, Brown or white, this is not our land.

real talk we gotta realize we are American and this is our indigenous land despite the racist society we have faced....its cool to identify with Africa and realize that is where our deep ancestry comes from...but the last 400 years, most of us trace our relatives in America...most of us been in America longer than so called white Americans who European ancestors came in the 1800s

nah, Americans are not indigenous at all, Native Americans are indigenous, everyone else is a foreigner, include white Americans.

 

[bouncy]

I identify as African-American because my history is here in America but it didn't begin here. My heritage is in Africa. as far as whites, you have Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans, and some others. And yes some simply identify as American, but that is bullshyt. The only true people of this land are the Native Americans and they have their own names that they use to identify. Everyone else comes from somewhere else, Black, Brown or white, this is not our land.



nah, Americans and not indigenous at all, Native Americans are indigenous, everyone else is a foreigner, include white Americans.

I agree with you, but we are at war in a white supremacy system, I would be a fool to not use their game against them. They play the word game, not the moral, and right game. Why do you think we are even discussing this, in this thread?. They are playing a game, and giving us one rule, while they know the rest, and how to use it. Why do you think the court of law, is the highest order in this country, and if you don't know the terms or rules, you will get shytted on whether you was in the right or not?

I feel sorry for the colored people of the world because we are getting played with a game that is easy to play once you see it for what it is, but we just continure to listen to what we have been taught, as opposed to how it really is.

Look at the video with the police officer wanting to get into the house, but the black guys wouldn't open the door for her. Noticed how she kept yelling for them to open it, but the brother who knew the deal didn't budge, and she went after the guy acting like an idiot savant who she saw didn't know anything?. Well that is how it is if you live in this world, regardless of where you come from, because America, is the controller of ALL of it, and has a set rule that the whole world adheres to, whether they believe it or not. Look at how all these latins or Caribbean blacks talk about how they aren't black or it doesn't matter there, yet when you look at their leaders, they all either look lightskinned, close to white or straight out white. This is because they are effected by the white supremacy way of thinking also, but they think because no one else around them is white, that they are different. When I learned about the history of the Dominican republic, and how their leader used to powder his face to look white, even though you can see he was black, or how Puerto Ricans would have incest born children then having to mix with the dark skin puerto ricans, showed me how deep this race shyt is, yet black/latins don't understand none of it, and wonder why they are losing the game. The good thing about your senses is a lot of times they don't lie, but words do it ALL THE TIME. Stop listening to just words, and watch the WHOLE picture.

 

[Fatboi1]

Christina Millian look so good.

Esa es Mi Esposa, ah ah !!

 

[beanz]

im a white dominican. u see me and u think im a narco lol. but my mother's dad is as black as wesley snipes and so are all his sons. thats the shyt about being latino, we are heavily mixed. i dont claim white or black im just dominican.

i think thats a big issue over here in the states. black people dont consider themselves american they just black. malcom x said it in his book, african-americans dont consider themselves african or american. i never seen a dude in the projects just chillin with an american flag wrapped around his head repping the USA and it will be a long time before i do. blacks from trinidad or jamaica are just trinidadian or jamaican. but here, dudes just identify by their color and theres something wrong with that. not that i blame them for not repping america.

 

[Fatboi1]

im a white dominican. u see me and u think im a narco lol. but my mother's dad is as black as wesley snipes and so are all his sons. thats the shyt about being latino, we are heavily mixed. i dont claim white or black im just dominican.

i think thats a big issue over here in the states. black people dont consider themselves american they just black. malcom x said it in his book, african-americans dont consider themselves african or american. i never seen a dude in the projects just chillin with an american flag wrapped around his head repping the USA and it will be a long time before i do. blacks from trinidad or jamaica are just trinidadian or jamaican. but here, dudes just identify by their color and theres something wrong with that. not that i blame them for not repping america.

White people started all this mess up with caucasian this or black/white that. People back then identified with their nationalities.

I was born and raised in the US and my family is haitian. I tell people I'm haitian. I tell people I'm black but it's two-fold. I'm black as in because I was born here so nationality wise I'm technically "black" but I consider myself haitian. I never wore and plan to rock an American flag because that shyt is for white people imo. I don't associate the flag with Blacks even though "blacks" had this country built off their labor. It's dumb really.

this thread makes me want to date a Afro-latina.

 

[bouncy]

im a white dominican. u see me and u think im a narco lol. but my mother's dad is as black as wesley snipes and so are all his sons. thats the shyt about being latino, we are heavily mixed. i dont claim white or black im just dominican.

i think thats a big issue over here in the states. black people dont consider themselves american they just black. malcom x said it in his book, african-americans dont consider themselves african or american. i never seen a dude in the projects just chillin with an american flag wrapped around his head repping the USA and it will be a long time before i do. blacks from trinidad or jamaica are just trinidadian or jamaican. but here, dudes just identify by their color and theres something wrong with that. not that i blame them for not repping america.

That's because you are probably somewhere in the northeast, where a lot of the people are from foreign land or their people are. Plus, they don't have that type of patriotic way of thinking due to the history of the black power movement being strong there, and they have certain ideologies about blacks, and America, hence your Malcom X reference, but go to the south, and you WILL see an American flag waving from a black house. I seen all the time.

 

[bouncy]

I never wore and plan to rock an American flag because that shyt is for white people imo. I don't associate the flag with Blacks even though "blacks" had this country built off their labor. It's dumb really.

this thread makes me want to date a Afro-latina.

And this is what they want you to keep thinking. It helps them keep their power. Like I stated earlier, this is why they had no problem with blacks calling themselves everything under the sun, BUT just plain American. You have just proved this technique has worked, because we all KNOW blacks have been here for hundreds of years, they helped built this country, they contributed to it, yet most people, black, and white, don't think about them when you see that flag. You have people saying go back to Africa, when most don't even know anyone from Africa. They only say this because they keep hearing African-American when describing blacks.

If that isn't game, I don't know what is.