How does Drake get credit for "making hit records" when he doesn't write or produce?

Wiles

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The topic is the if the music is great I will listen and enjoy

Why do I need to worry about who's an Mc or any of that irrelevant shyt
My bad fam I thought this was a hip hop forum I guess it's Pop now
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Why do people keep saying pac had people writing for him?

Everybody that knew him said he was able to write entire songs in minutes

I find it hard to believe he needed help with writing unless it was like hooks or something
He did have someone. Write a song for him
 

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People have been writing for him since the beginning. Too many allegations and I personally know one of the writers. Son has had ghosts since "Replacement girl" era. Why are you defending a fraud so hard?
My favorite rappers may be losers that take Ls (Royce da 5'9, Nas, TI)...but they write their own shyt.
NO REFERENCES.
Royce actually wrote "the message" for Dr. Dre...I don't even think the R&B shyt he "wrote" is something written by him.
I already KNEW the nikka didn't write for years...Now you know and can't accept it.
We're two different types of men.
You're A. bytch nikka who likes adult contemporary r&b in rap format
I'm B. Real nikka invested in the authenticity of hip hop...from the source...and from the heart...Written by the artist performing the songs. The artist talking about his own life experiences. Not a sheltered halfcac jew from a rich part of toronto who didn't start hanging around brehs until he was trying to get on with rap. I look deeper into things because I'm an artist myself...I actually like some of the Drake Production and Songwriting Workshop's music. You LOVE it.
If you LOVE fake shyt, you are a fukk nikka. Flat out.
Evidence is there...nothing more needs to be proven. We're rubbing it in because it's funny. You keep talking about a Meek beef but this has grown past the youngbul from Philly. You will never forget the simp you cape for is 100% fugazi. From the discovery story to the writing...He's even a snitch in real life. Cosign snitches who don't even write their own bars...but they'll write statements.

You're a build a bear ass nikka...I'm American steel...we shouldn't be debating.

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I'm STILL not understanding how only a few people saw his immediate rise to the top as a RED FLAG back in '09...The Sprite campaign with life-sized cutouts of this ngga in the mall and the Virgin airlines promotion BEFORE A RETAIL ALBUM IS RELEASED should have been enough cause for alarm...now these are the consequences hiphop heads have to face because cac demons had over 5 years to program the twitter zombies without anyone with power speaking out against FRAUDBREY :manny:
 

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Fam imma a Snoop fan but he doesn't pen all his shyt that's what we're discussing here. And to be a top mc u have to pen all your shyt.. I fukks with Snoop hard too man no shade to the west coast gawd...

I feel you on that, you're entitled to your personal opininon ...just brought that up cause you said "no one puts him up there with the real emcees" ...when he's ranked by the most known publication in Hip hop as one of the greatest of all time
 

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Has 18k post and doesn't give a fukk about your bullshyt pretenses

Should I listen to what I like or what you loser like?

u should probably go join a pop music forum

or grab some nuts and be a man, and stop dikkriding other grown men. I have rappers and athletes I idolize and i *never* blindly defend them. I hope y'all dikkriding nikkas are teenagers
 

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u should probably go join a pop music forum

or grab some nuts and be a man, and stop dikkriding other grown men. I have rappers and athletes I idolize and i *never* blindly defend them. I hope y'all dikkriding nikkas are teenagers
I don't idolize anything

I take sports and music for what it is... Entertainment
 
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