dre puff and ye get a pass because of their extreme impact in the game. drake has no impact to the history of rap that covers for being a fraudulent rapper.
How does Drake get credit for "making hit records" when he doesn't write or produce?
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dre puff and ye get a pass because of their extreme impact in the game. drake has no impact to the history of rap that covers for being a fraudulent rapper.
Frida Giezman
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This is all still new
If his peers in rap music start turning on him then I think he could be in trouble
If ghostwriting and "collaborations" amongst serious hip hop artists is as common as yall say than yeah he has nothing to worry about
What trends has Drake set?
What was he first at?
What did he put out that was ground breaking?
Absolutely nothing. He makes typical club bangers and thats it. What has done that hasn't been accomplished by current artists?
In Dre and Puff's case, their impact on music comes from production. The same isn't true of Kanye. That's not to say his production hasn't been impactful, but unlike Dre and Puff, Kanye has impacted rappers. You have people saying that he brought consciousness back to Hip Hop with College Dropout. That's not his production doing that, but his raps. You have people saying he created a lane for Drake and J. Cole, which again isn't his production. Unlike Dre and Puff, Kanye's out here actually trying push the perception that he's a great rapper.
Right...but look at J Cole and Kendrick who are really maybe a tier below Drake as far as sales go. I don't even fukk with Cole like that but he does his thing on the album top to bottom for the most part, even production wise. Ain't nobody making no stencils for Kendrick to rap over, yet these are his contemporaries, even with the R&B on the side.
And while it ain't a smoking gun, and plenty of rappers have been "accused", it's posts dating back to 2009 that indicate that dude has been getting "help" from the jump and essentially got into the rap game because he had the money to do so. You match that up with the current fall out the dots start to look connected.
You look at the cats that we (i'm assuming your demographic here) came up on, rap was their salvation...where would DMX, Jay Z, Nas, 2pac, Eminem ect. be if they didn't learn how to excel at this craft? Dead? Prison?
Justin Beiber is a better "singer" than Drake, he's got the pop appeal and has even adopted a Hip Hop swag, he's shmoney dancing and all this shyt...are any of these Drake fans going to protest when they put a similar team around him and have him play the MC role? If he decides he wants to be a rapper and makes "Good music" that can dominate radio is it gonna be all good?
I fully expect a Beiber rap album. But then again the argument needs to be against the culture and not one man. Stop playing Drake's music, stop taking your thots to his concerts, stop giving him more brand awareness by harping on his lack of authenticity. Better yet actually support the artists who you think ARE authentic. All day long cats wanna rag on Cole but dude is literally one of the most sincere/aware cats in the game and actually is skilled. But do nikkas rush to go to his shows, or buy his shyt...not in the streets. But they quick to go to the Drake show cuz they know the females are gon be there.
I'm just saying put your money and your time where your mouth is to most of these guys.
Ghostwriting and collaborations is something that's still a secret to us. That being said, it's still common amongst the artists. They know who has writers and who don't. It's just not common knowledge to us. A good example of this is Kendrick hinting at Drake having writers, but not outing him.
Tony Yayo brought that shyt up too. What does it matter that Superb is a child molester? How is that relevant? Wu members and affiliates aren't angels breh. Ghost didn't deny it he said he gave him lines, maybe a verse but could never write an album of his that's what he said. Ghost is still in my top 10...
Who said Jungle wrote Illmatic what the fukk dude was like 14-15 when Illmatic was being written
It matters because Wu distanced themselves from him during that time. Next thing you know Perb pops up talking about he wrote for Ghost.
Tony Yayo mentioned it because Superb said it. He was just repeating the rumor.
And even 50 Cent was like
to Tony Yayo for saying that during the interview. 
"nah, nah, I'm not saying he didn't write it".So like I said, it's a rumor one guy started with zero proof....literally just "hey guys, I did this" and for some reason people latched onto it.
The Nas shyt was just a dumb ass example of the kinds of rumors people start.
Fred.
Later it was revealed it was old RZA and GZA lyrics.
Method Man: Ol' Dirty b*stard Stole Rhymes
Nobody in their right mind would put ODB in the "best of his generation" discussion. So that's a moot (and well known) point. RIP and all that but ODB was not remotely in the same class as Ghost, Rae, Meth, Deck or hell, even RZA in their prime. He added fukkery to Wu-Tang, nobody was like
"ODB got bars".The last 5 years Drake's fans have tried to put him at the forefront of his generation. In some cases, in all-time discussions. Which is
as hell because we don't even know what he wrote, in the prime of his career. Ghost writing allegations have been around the guy since 2010, at least.Fred.
Yagirlcheatinonus
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odb first album was better than ticalNobody in their right mind would put ODB in the "best of his generation" discussion. So that's a moot (and well known) point. RIP and all that but ODB was not remotely in the same class as Ghost, Rae, Meth, Deck or hell, even RZA in their prime. He added fukkery to Wu-Tang, nobody was like
The last 5 years Drake's fans have tried to put him at the forefront of his generation. In some cases, in all-time discussions. Which is
Fred.
Yagirlcheatinonus
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Shame on you for thinking thatI strongly disagree.
Fred.
Frida Giezman
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