Gil Scott-Heroin
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You don't have to
for everything Duke-related. He wasn't going to be a top 10 player. Top 20 maybe, but not top 10. SMH.
How good could have Grant Hill been
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for everything Duke-related. He wasn't going to be a top 10 player. Top 20 maybe, but not top 10. SMH.You don't have to
this is the ONLY TIME AND PLACE EVER where ive heard/seen someone claim he'd be top 10 all time. completely fukkin outrageous. he wasnt going to be that in a vacuum and he certainly wouldnt have been that without winning a ring or multiple rings and he never would have
Perfectson
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because basketball is an individual sport?
20pts 10 reb 7 assists his 2nd year in the league
21pts 9 rebound 7 assists and 2 steals his 3r dyear
the year he added a 3 point shot he avg 26ppg 7rebound 5 assists and shot 35% from 3pt - that happened to be the year he hurt his ankle, he was only 27/28, he had not reached his prime scoring wise.
in the playoffs, teams would just double him the entire game he was tthe only guy. and 4 times? 1 of those times (the last time) is when he was injured smh
Perfectson
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You don't have to
fine - top 10 is a bit aggressive, but top 20 means there's going to be some people who have him close to 10.
Gil Scott-Heroin
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@Perfectson is the type of dude to argue that Loul Deng is better than LeBron. Because he went to Duke.
Gil Scott-Heroin
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I'm only saying maybe top 20 if he has a lot things go his way. Top 25 would be more accurate.
thelonious21
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I see u dumb. nikkaz are playing the result.. so cuz he ain't win ships.. it's impossible to be the best.. I mean we are entitled to our opinions.. and in my and many others thete was a point he was the best in the nbathis dude buggin da fukk out.Grant hill was a top 4-5 player but he wasnt better than the man who was winning championships,mvp's and dropping 40-50 at age 33-35
when tmac gets discussed, what is the first criticism?
- never got out of the first round, loser
when the sonics/knicks/jazz teams of the 90's, what is the first criticism?
- never won a ring
fact of the matter is that when talking about all time greatness, rings play a factor..regardless of extenuating circumstances. he was never going to win a ring, ever..and certainly not as the main piece. i personally rank boogie high in current discussions of young bigs but whats the main criticism? empty stats and a loser..and there is nothing for me to say otherwise right now.
95-96 pistons had a good year, 46-36. grant hill, allan houston, a still serviceable dumars, otis thorpe...he even had good playoff stats that year..too bad he got swept in the first round.
96-97 pistons had the best team record for him as a main piece. 54-28. Lost to the hawks 3-2 in the first round. and getting doubled? he had a 35.3% usage rate and put up harden numbers with 20 attempts a game and 8 free throw attempts. if he was getting doubled all the time he wouldnt have those numbers friend.
the next year, he played 81 games and his team ended up 8 games under 500.
year after he played all 50 games in shortened season...what happened? same old shyt..first round exit to the hawks (again)..and they had added stackhouse and his buddy laettner that year. laettner couldnt do it for him like he did at duke. they were hoping he could add a little more toughness and edge to grant and the team but alas
you would think a top 10 player all time could win a first round series as the main guy right? pippen did more with the bulls when jordan was retired than grant did. and pippen is rarely considered top 10 all time. in fact, name a top 10 player with less playoff success than grant hill?
you cant. whats his career 3pt%? 30%? you know how easy it is for a playoff team to gameplan against a "top scorer" who cant shoot a 3? ask popovich when they swept bron with the cavs. he was always built to be a regular season warrior and thats it. and come to think of it..just to squash the hypothetical "if he was healthy with tmac" shyt...no they wouldnt have done anything either. that was not a good chemistry fit whatsoever and, ironically, tmac never put up good 3pt% as well. he put up huge numbers but hes a low 30% career 3pt shooter. magic woulda got crunched in the playoffs even in a shytty east and swept if they made it to the finals.
Field Marshall Bradley
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You don't have to
Its not outrageous at all.......
Hell... The top 5 has shifted.............
Yall act like the top 10 is immutable...
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Perfectson
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no chance
tell me who he couldve surpassed on this list (which isnt even just ten) to get into the top 10
jabbar, jordan, wilt, russell, shaq, kobe, bird, magic, duncan, dream, big o, baylor, dr j, lebron, zeke, both malones, stockton, pippen, david robinson, kevin mchale, ewing
there are 22 players there with some greats left off and some on there that MAYBE you could make an argument if grant kept up his peak numbers for almost his whole career. even a few on there without rings.
LOL
ok
he wouldnt have even been the GOAT of non ring winning players. how about that?
Field Marshall Bradley
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They reachin with this one.... As cold as Grant was...... 33 year old MJ> than 23 year old Grant Hill..... and it hurts my soul to say that