How has Christian Hackenberg finessed his way this far??

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    Damn that's a flashback name he was generic as fukk at least Michigan had talent on the OL.

    Cackenberg caught bad break I think Franklin is a horrible coach anf PSU OL would make the Jayhawks OL look like great wall of Dallas.


    I thought he was overrated when he came on scene im leaning towards underrated now
     
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    Rep coming your way fukk James Franklin
     
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    Dalton came out of the same TCU system and he's a starter so I don't hold anything against Boykin for his success in the same. To be fair Dalton was better than Boykin in the same system. That said, on performance alone Boykin should have been invited to the Combine ahead of Hack.

    Moving on, David Carr always sucked and held onto the ball too long. Goff's line sucked too but he made it work with pocket movement and anticipation. Hack lacks both these traits and that's why he sucked so badly.
     
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    Completion percentage can be affected by many things, but if you dive a little deeper and look specifically at his ball placement, things get even worse. Hackenberg completed 192 passes this past season, but when we charted ball location for quarterbacks in this draft class, 55 of those catches were badly located passes. He was only accurate on 48.1 percent of attempts when throwing to open receivers. By comparison, Cody Kessler was accurate on 73.2 percent of his attempts to open receivers, Carson Wentz was at 61.2 percent. Even Cardale Jones, our inaccuracy comp in this exercise, was 5 percent better when throwing to open guys.

    PFF’s play-by-play grading scale works from minus-2 to plus-2 in 0.5 increments. Minus-1.5 and minus-2 throws are catastrophic plays that usually result in a turnover. Hackenberg has 37 of them over his college career, equivalent to a catastrophically bad pass on 3.1 percent of his attempts. Jared Goff, by contrast, threw one on 1.1 percent in 2015. Even Michigan State QB Connor Cook, whom we have noted throughout his draft evaluation for his bad habit of reckless throws, threw one on 1.5 percent — or less than half the rate of Hackenberg.

    Don’t get me wrong: Hackenberg’s line was not good at Penn State, but it wasn’t the prohibitive collection of uniformed turnstyles that they’ve been made out to be, either. As a unit they surrendered 135 total pressures in 2015, which is bad, but 15 other teams managed worse, including Goff’s California Bears (154). 45 other offensive lines surrendered pressure at a greater rate than Hackenberg’s line last season. And in 2014, we charged Hackenberg with eight of the sacks he took, which is five more than any single lineman gave up.

    In fact, since he has been the quarterback, Hackenberg has been directly to blame for more sacks than any single lineman blocking for him, and that doesn’t even touch the ones he was indirectly at fault for by being unable to effectively diagnose the pressure looks he was presented with.

    Why Christian Hackenberg doesn't have a draftable grade

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    I've never seen a coach punt on a 4th and 2 from the opponents 34:mjlol:
     
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    Nobody would talk about him if it wasn't for his memorable name.
     
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    Tcu didn't run the air raid till last year

    With that fast paced offense and big 12 defenses a lot of qbs are gonna put up massive numbers it means very little

    If you go by college stats to judge them as pro prospects then every Baylor qb should be a high pick
     
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    Of the handful of games I saw of him, I never came away impressed in any way, shape or form. He will be out of the league in three years.
     
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    Has there ever been a QB that Gruden didn't like?

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    Gruden would draft Everett Golson top 10 if he had his say
     
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    They'res hasn't been a player he hasn't liked since becoming a broadcaster
     
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    Last 2 seasons TCU was ass first 2 years in big 12 they hired Cumbie and another cat to be co OCs Boykin was :trash: when he took over for @Reinscarf qb he used to Stan guy got caught up in drugs forget his name.
     
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    Stats may not mean anything to you but nevertheless they do have real bearing on NFL QB performance and potential. All top QBs in the league today threw for >9.0 adjusted Yards per attempt at least 1 year and/or had >60% completion rate overall, usually both. Hack had neither.
     
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    With EJ, seems only the Bills were fools enough to touch him because I don't really remember hearing much positive or things about his upside leading up to the draft or even after he was selected.

    You have to admit though, at least EJ was "solid" at FSU his sr season while Hack has regressed
     

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