HOW in the hell was Pac better than Nas at rapping?

[intilectual recipricol]

Post a creative concept song by pac like I gave you power,rewind,book of rhymes,fried chicken,daughters or drunk by myself You Can't

Pac's music is for fellow crack babies who are hopeless like that nikka was.If you're a depressed suicidal emotional psycho you'll love pac if you like story telling,dope lyrics creativity nas is your choice.It's that simple pac isnt in the same category as nas as a rapper

"nacho cheese, I'm Castro"

"Rewind" is a terrible track, I'd prefer an actual good story told forward over a weak, bland, nondescript story told backwards. Yeah I get the point he told a story backwards, but the story sucked.

"book of rhymes" I like but theres nothing special about it.

"Me and My Girlfriend" >>> "I Gave You Power"

"papaz Song" >>>>>> "Daughters"
"So Many Tears" >>>> "Drunk By Myself"

@ "Fried Chicken"

naS stans are delusional

 

[mobbinfms]

I answered you question, there are no extra words. You simply dont understand writing... as evidenced by the fact you didnt get the Jay Z line.

naS adds words to the end of lines to make it rhyme... "I smoke blunts, considerably"

considerably makes no sense in that line, not only that people dont talk that way, he clearly added it to try and help his rhyme scheme. THAT is amateur. Pac was simply flowing.

LOL @ "my bankrolls make the police come in plain clothes..." if thats what impresses you then youre lost, thats no better than ANYTHING on any Pac joint. But I can post thousands of verses from better rappers that shyt on that.

What purpose did "fukking" serve in the Jay song other than to achieve the multi? You claim it was necessary? So tell me why.

And those Pac joints were monosyllabic garbage. I rap I slap I dap type shyt.
Bankrolls and plain clothes is a great usage of vocabulary and it makes sense and is clever.

Look - at the end of the day - you've heard all of Nas' shyt right? And you've heard all of Pac's shyt. If you can't see that Nas was more technically complex, then I don't know what to tell you.

 

[#1 pick]

Nas is Hip Hop Reggie Miller while Pac is MJ. Pac wasn't as lyrical or even close like MJ wasn't the shooter or even close to Miller. But MJ was much better like Pac is much better than Nas. Superior overall artist.

 

[god shamgod]

"nacho cheese, I'm Castro"

"Rewind" is a terrible track, I'd prefer an actual good story told forward over a weak, bland, nondescript story told backwards. Yeah I get the point he told a story backwards, but the story sucked.

"book of rhymes" I like but theres nothing special about it.

"Me and My Girlfriend" >>> "I Gave You Power"

"papaz Song" >>>>>> "Daughters"
"So Many Tears" >>>> "Drunk By Myself"

@ "Fried Chicken"

naS stans are delusional

Notice this guy deflected from the question and gave his opinion and posted irrelevant things,now post creative pac songs like the ones I named by nas .They don't exist cuz pac was basic

I'm not a nas stan at all.I can admit he's always been a much better rapper than pac since nas debuted.

 

[mobbinfms]

"nacho cheese, I'm Castro"

"Rewind" is a terrible track, I'd prefer an actual good story told forward over a weak, bland, nondescript story told backwards. Yeah I get the point he told a story backwards, but the story sucked.

"book of rhymes" I like but theres nothing special about it.

"Me and My Girlfriend" >>> "I Gave You Power"

"papaz Song" >>>>>> "Daughters"
"So Many Tears" >>>> "Drunk By Myself"

@ "Fried Chicken"

naS stans are delusional

Post the songs that make you think Nas is the greatest storyteller.

And are you ever gonna give us the backstory on you and Nas? The way you go after the guy on here it makes me think your younger brother stood out in the blistering cold for four hours to get his autograph and Nas just said no.

 

[god shamgod]

Nas is Hip Hop Reggie Miller while Pac is MJ. Pac wasn't as lyrical or even close like MJ wasn't the shooter or even close to Miller. But MJ was much better like Pac is much better than Nas. Superior overall artist.

Terrible analogy.Reggie miller was a one dimensional shooter while jordan was a complete player

Nas is more jordan that pac is.Wtf are you even talkin about go sit your dumb ass down somewhere wit this retarded comparison

 

[smoking man]

"Rewind" is a terrible track, I'd prefer an actual good story told forward over a weak, bland, nondescript story told backwards. Yeah I get the point he told a story backwards, but the story sucked.

exactly

 

[inndaskKy]

pac would NEVER be able to flow like that and keep up with G Rap on a track the way nas did it


Kool G Rap;Nas - Fast Life - YouTube

Either you're trolling or didn't comprehend what I said. The thread has gone another 2 pages with people just making claims without backing them up. So, again, here is the challenge that the whole thread comes down to:

See, I posted the challenge below 6 pages ago and no one who claims Nas is much better at rhyming has stepped up with an example:



So, post 6 specific bars. Not an entire song, not an entire verse, not the name of some songs. Just post one sequence of 6 bars from a Nas song that showcases a rhyme pattern or a use of multi's that has never supposedly been encountered in a 2pac song. Preferably a couple of lines that actually have some meaningful content too. If you could do that, then you would be able to prove your point and I will :shake: you.
This is what the thread is all about really.

If Nas is really that much better lyrically (and with lyrical, I mean just rhyming ability in this context), it shouldn't be so difficult. All this other bickering back and forth with opinions isn't really helpful and leaves the discussion going nowhere.

I'll be waiting.

I'm still waiting.

 

[#1 pick]

Nas had to diss Jay-Z to reach the masses and even then, he is known as a lyrical rapper on most circles and and only a lyical rapper. As an overall artist he needs to watch his back to inferior lyricist like Drake. You have to be able to reach all spectrum's of the masses to claim you are an elite artist, something Nas rarely ever does. Nas is one of the greatest lyricist ever but he isn't an elite overall rapper and rarely has been. His delivery doesn't even come close to Master P or DMX. His style is boring and his spends a lot of time using big words with his own purpose being is to rhyme. It's not like he is using big words saying something like Lupe. Nas is overrated in my opinion. Just as much as Jay-Z but I will say Jay is a much better rapper than Nas as well.

 

[#1 pick]

Terrible analogy.Reggie miller was a one dimensional shooter while jordan was a complete player

Nas is more jordan that pac is.Wtf are you even talkin about go sit your dumb ass down somewhere wit this retarded comparison

Nas is one dimensional while Tupac is a complete rapper. It was a perfect analogy. Nas is lame son. We all respect his lyrical ability but that's where it ends.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

If you think he's the greatest storyteller does that mean you've got him in your top ten?

No, because his other raps are terrible.
Fabolous is great with punchlines, not in my top anything.

I put a premium on A) makin music I "feel" and yes its highly subjective, but thats where Pac is GOAT to me, and I realize that if you aint "feelin" "Keep Ya Head Up" you probably dont like Pac. But even so, naS 'lyricism' aint better. It cant be demonstrated.

B) actual lyricism... similies, metaphors, entendres, imagery, irony, alliteration, puns, wit etc... a cat like Lupe has mastered it. Andre 3000 is like a hybrid between the two.

naS fans keep trying to talk about these rhyme schemes... naS rhymes schemes arent fukcin with Twista's in any way shape or form (neither are Pac's for that matter)... but of course naS fans want to ignore that FACT.

All naS fans show, is that they like naS... aint no reasonin behind it, and it doesnt need to be. Just keep it short and simple. as a naS stan just say, "No matter what naS says or how he says it, I think naS is the best." and be done with it.

 

[#1 pick]

Nas isn't even that good of a storyteller. I been more impressed by Jeezy storytelling skills than Nas. Nas is literally the most overrated rapper in Hip Hop history. Old boy sold his soul to the devils and now got fanboys thinking he's the man.

 

[#1 pick]

No, because his other raps are terrible.
Fabolous is great with punchlines, not in my top anything.

I put a premium on A) makin music I "feel" and yes its highly subjective, but thats where Pac is GOAT to me, and I realize that if you aint "feelin" "Keep Ya Head Up" you probably dont like Pac. But even so, naS 'lyricism' aint better. It cant be demonstrated.

B) actual lyricism... similies, metaphors, entendres, imagery, irony, alliteration, puns, wit etc... a cat like Lupe has mastered it. Andre 3000 is like a hybrid between the two.

naS fans keep trying to talk about these rhyme schemes... naS rhymes schemes are fukcin with Twista's in any shape or form (neither are Pac's for that matter)... but of course naS fans want to ignore that FACT.

All naS fans show, is that they like naS... aint no reasonin behind it, and it doesnt need to be. Just keep it short and simple. as a naS stan just say, "No matter what naS says or how he says it, I think naS is the best." and be done with it.

Elite level posting right here. I promise Nas fans are the worst. One of my best friends would kill me trying to listen to that BS. I even listened to his stuff with Marley. Excellent idea, horrible execution.

 

[mobbinfms]

Either you're trolling or didn't comprehend what I said. The thread has gone another 2 pages with people just making claims without backing them up. So, again, here is the challenge that the whole thread comes down to:



I'm still waiting.

That's a stupid challenge. Who cares about four to six bars? What does that prove? To be posting in this thread, you should be familiar with both PAC and Nas' catalogs as well as the basics behind rhyme structure. If that's the case, it should be obvious that Nas has a more complex style that requires a higher level of skill. Just peep Illmatic and IWW, which as a hip hop fan you should be intimately familiar with

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Post the songs that make you think Nas is the greatest storyteller.

And are you ever gonna give us the backstory on you and Nas? The way you go after the guy on here it makes me think your younger brother stood out in the blistering cold for four hours to get his autograph and Nas just said no.

And I already told you about naS, other than story telling he's garbage, but his stans insist on him being some sort of lyrical beast when I could name dozens of lyrically equal if not much better rappers. naS stans refusing to admit that shyt like "nacho cheese, I'm Castro" is some of the worst corniest garbage rap ever written. naS fans insistence on just asserting that this nicca changed rap when I have already demonstrated that niccaz I listened to were already rapping better than naS when naS came out.

The nicca is extra average.