How is it possible to be a climate change denier at this point?

jackswstd

Retired
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
73,097
Reputation
9,058
Daps
265,972
Reppin
Chicago
We were warned about this shyt for decades, but nowadays there’s a section of people who think scientists have an agenda and are not to be trusted. Suddenly all their expertise and years of studying the effects that lead to climate change mean nothing because idiots on tik-tok are much more qualified.
 

acri1

The Chosen 1
Supporter
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
26,309
Reputation
4,557
Daps
120,223
Reppin
Detroit
Been said for the sake of progress, domestically & globally...we need to get rid of all the stupid people.

Before, they were an inconvenience....now they're actually extremely detrimental to our survival.

Unfortunately I don't know of an ethical way to deal with stupid people :francis: once Cheeto got elected I accepted that I live in an Idiocracy
 

Lexington Steele

All Star
Bushed
Joined
May 25, 2012
Messages
2,303
Reputation
885
Daps
9,881
Reppin
Porn
People denied there was a deadly pandemic going on while hospitals ran out of storage for the bodies :yeshrug: a friend of mine calls it "normalitarism", as in people know deep down what is going on but they are afraid of the changes and therefore cling to the normal they know and resort to denial, which unfortunately makes everything worse.
 

WIA20XX

Superstar
Joined
May 24, 2022
Messages
9,856
Reputation
4,456
Daps
30,412
I don’t believe climate change is fake. I believe the ideas to stop/slow/alter climate change are the problem.

Agreed.

All this electric vehicle BS. Using paper straws. FOH. That's just spreading out the misery across various industries.

Mag Lev trains now.

In the city, in the burbs, across the country, across the world.

And if that means 99% of people live in a highly dense city, with 1% if the hinterlands tending to crops, so be it.
 

bnew

Veteran
Joined
Nov 1, 2015
Messages
69,344
Reputation
10,637
Daps
187,415
lc5YZ7l.png

 

NatiboyB

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
65,185
Reputation
3,905
Daps
103,569
After sitting and talking with a group of reps from various tribes in this region. The reason people are able to deny these things is because a lot of people are extremely under informed about things impacting their actual lives.

The farmers and people world wide have been mentioning this but just like everything else they toss it under the conspiracy theory realm and people don’t know if they should pay attention or not. It’s the way they continually keep us uninformed. People don’t even feel confident looking at information and making an assumption based on the reports they read. Because the data may be corrupted.
 
Joined
May 3, 2012
Messages
11,193
Reputation
4,165
Daps
58,970
Reppin
NULL
There's no hedging words anymore, most of us are gonna be dead withing the next 50 years, and most of will struggle with finding food. Never mind the wars and climate refugees....

NATIONS WITH NUCLEAR STOCKPILES WILL HAVE MASSIVE FOOD SHORTAGES WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DECADES. THINK ABOUT THAT.

Modern society is done pretty soon. Don't have kids. I'll have to apologize to mines one day.
 

bnew

Veteran
Joined
Nov 1, 2015
Messages
69,344
Reputation
10,637
Daps
187,415

A crucial system of ocean currents is heading for a collapse that ‘would affect every person on the planet’​


By Laura Paddison, CNN
Updated 4:45 AM EDT, Wed July 26, 2023

Large Icebergs near Kulusuk, Greenland. Scientists say a critical ocean circulation in the North Atlantic could collapse in the next few decades.

Large Icebergs near Kulusuk, Greenland. Scientists say a critical ocean circulation in the North Atlantic could collapse in the next few decades.


A vital system of ocean currents could collapse within a few decades if the world continues to pump out planet-heating pollution, scientists are warning – an event that would be catastrophic for global weather and “affect every person on the planet.”

A new study published Tuesday in the journal Nature, found that the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Current – of which the Gulf Stream is a part – could collapse around the middle of the century, or even as early as 2025.

Scientists uninvolved with this study told CNN the exact tipping point for the critical system is uncertain, and that measurements of the currents have so far showed little trend or change. But they agreed these results are alarming and provide new evidence that the tipping point could occur sooner than previously thought.



The AMOC is a complex tangle of currents that works like a giant global conveyor belt. It transports warm water from the tropics toward the North Atlantic, where the water cools, becomes saltier and sinks deep into the ocean, before spreading southwards.

It plays a crucial role in the climate system, helping regulate global weather patterns. Its collapse would have enormous implications, including much more extreme winters and sea level rises affecting parts of Europe and the US, and a shifting of the monsoon in the tropics.

For years, scientists have been warning of its instability as the climate crisis accelerates, threatening to upset the balance of temperature and salinity on which the strength of these currents depend.

As the oceans heat up and ice melts, more freshwater flows into the ocean and reduces the water’s density, making it less able to sink. When waters become too fresh, too warm or both, the conveyor belt stops.

It has happened before. More than 12,000 years ago, rapid glacier melt caused the AMOC to shut down, leading to huge Northern Hemisphere temperature fluctuations of 10 to 15 degrees Celsius (18 to 27 Fahrenheit) within a decade.

A shutdown “would affect every person on the planet – it’s that big and important,” said Peter de Menocal, the president of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, who was not involved in the study.

A 2019 report by the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change predicted that the AMOC would weaken over this century, but that its full collapse before 2100 was unlikely.

This new study comes to a much more alarming conclusion.

As the AMOC has only been continuously monitored since 2004, the study authors looked to a much larger dataset, and one which could show how the currents behaved in a period without human-caused climate change.

“We needed to go back in time,” said Peter Ditlevsen, a professor of climate physics at the University of Copenhagen and one of the authors of the report. The scientists analyzed sea surface temperatures in the North Atlantic in an area south of Greenland over a period of 150 years between 1870 and 2020.

This part of the ocean is warmed by the water transported north from the tropics by the AMOC, Ditlevsen said, “so if it cools, it’s because the AMOC is weakening.” The authors then subtracted the impacts of human-caused global warming on the water temperature to understand how the currents were changing.

They found “early warning signals” of critical changes in the AMOC, which led them to predict “with high confidence” that it could shut down or collapse as early as 2025 and no later than 2095. The likeliest point of collapse is somewhere between 2039 and 2070, Ditlevsen said.

“It’s really scary,” he told CNN. “This is not something you would lightly put into papers,” he said, adding, “we’re very confident that this is a robust result.”

De Menocal said the study results were “both surprising and alarming.”

It’s been clear for a while that the AMOC will weaken in the coming decades, he told CNN. In 2021, a study found the AMOC was showing signs of instability due to climate change.

But until now, we haven’t had a time frame.

The new study “provides a novel analysis that focuses on when the AMOC tipping point will occur,” de Menocal said, and the study’s prediction the collapse will occur around 2050 “is alarmingly soon given the globally disruptive impact of such an event.” Although, he added, it is important to note that there is no observational evidence yet that the AMOC is collapsing.

Stefan Rahmstorf, professor of physics of the oceans at the University of Potsdam in Germany, who was also not involved in the study, said the research helps bolster previous research.

“There is still large uncertainty where the tipping point of the AMOC is, but the new study adds to the evidence that it is much closer than we thought just a few years ago,” he told CNN. “The scientific evidence now is that we can’t even rule out crossing a tipping point already in the next decade or two.”

The report calls for fast and effective measures to cut planet-heating pollution to zero, to reduce global temperatures and slow melting in the Arctic.

“The key point of this study is that we don’t have much time at all to do this,” de Menocal said. “And the stakes just got higher.”

An iceberg floats in Flatrock Cove, Newfoundland, Canada. Warming oceans and melting ice threaten to desatbilize a crucial system of ocean currents in the Atlantic.

An iceberg floats in Flatrock Cove, Newfoundland, Canada. Warming oceans and melting ice threaten to desatbilize a crucial system of ocean currents in the Atlantic.
 

Damnshow

Veteran
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
19,837
Reputation
5,355
Daps
86,692
Again, blame zuckerberg, musk and others who allow fake news with clickbait spread all over their websites.

If I type in climate change is a hoax, I'm gonna get 10 recommended news suited to what I just typed in.

It's only going to get worse with retards eventually flying to Antarctica to find the edge of flat earth :mjlol: and freezing to death
 
Top