How is Ready To Die better than Reasonable Doubt? Why is Big supposedly better overall?

[Techniec]

I was waiting for somebody to post this
because it seems all you heard was Jay was more polished etc. etc. and I'm like don't these nikkaz understand biggie's album was recorded at least two n a half years before

exactly...and back then...two years was an ETERNITY

 

[Techniec]

I was and still am a Pac stan, on that to Bad Boy as a staff, record label and a motherfukking crew for 20 years now


and even in the heat of the war...even when I was on my fukk Big tip.......




































I still bumped RTD on the low

BIG, the King of New York

 

[kingofnyc]

Victory was put together as like post humous work.
So it is more bells and whistle in the creation of that work.
So, trying to use it as an authentication point for big or jay won't really work well.
Big was a better emcee because he created a real authenticated non-biter based style from his own uppage in skills.
Big did not styles morph off his contemporaries and in the time period.
Big was not exactly social like jay had been in the history of rap to piggy back off of flows.
Plus, came across as more culturally mindful even with badboy connectivity.
While jay never actualized or ramped up his skill set on his own without style morphing off his contemporaries.
Plus has always been culturally disengenuine and any show of cultural solidarity was a phoney pr based work of subterfuge.



Art Barr

no it wasnt isnt, he spit those lyrics like 3 days before being killed
i remember rae talking bout biggie death before puff no way out even drop'd
and rea said some shyt like - big was rhyming over some rocky beat (nikkaz was going crazy)

 

[Art Barr]

no it wasnt isnt, he spit those lyrics like 3 days before being killed
i remember rae talking bout biggie death before puff no way out even drop'd
and rea said some shyt like - big was rhyming over some rocky beat (nikkaz was going crazy)

The process to get that record going was not just a standard x's and o's style of recording.
Which is why I used the verbiage I used.


Art Barr

 

[BlackDiBiase]

ready 2 die is so over rated most the tracks are skip status biggie is shouting on there even Jay-Z said he prefers LAD because its more polished. Thank God for badboy songs like juicy and one more chance remix (original was weak)

im not amazed by RD either Jay is not a top tier MC to me but he has the skills just no heart or authenticity he says a lot of dumb feminine shyt but i do think Big might just be slightly better even though Jay got him on (brooklyns finest and i love the dough) neither in my top 10.

 

[Ark]

ready 2 die is so over rated most the tracks are skip status biggie is shouting on there even Jay-Z said he prefers LAD because its more polished. Thank God for badboy songs like juicy and one more chance remix (original was weak)

im not amazed by RD either Jay is not a top tier MC to me but he has the skills just no heart or authenticity he says a lot of dumb feminine shyt but i do think Big might just be slightly better even though Jay got him on (brooklyns finest and i love the dough) neither in my top 10.

NEGGED!!!

 

[feelosofer]

ready 2 die is so over rated most the tracks are skip status biggie is shouting on there even Jay-Z said he prefers LAD because its more polished. Thank God for badboy songs like juicy and one more chance remix (original was weak)

im not amazed by RD either Jay is not a top tier MC to me but he has the skills just no heart or authenticity he says a lot of dumb feminine shyt but i do think Big might just be slightly better even though Jay got him on (brooklyns finest and i love the dough) neither in my top 10.

The original version of One More Chance is one of the dopest songs on the album the fukk are you talking about?

 

[Truefan31]

It's basically preference between the two albums but biggie def had that charisma goin. It felt effortless and smooth along with seemingly relatable storytelling. Made you understand his pov without him trying to make you understand his pov.

On their tracks together I thought big was better (brooklyns finest, young gs)

I give the nod to the one who can make a Shaquille oneal song pop off lol

 

[African Peasant]

Why.

It was a more complete album, emotionally and technically. RD is too linear : jay is skillful, the album is great but there no "Wow" moments like in RTD.

Big really did it BIG.

 

[ManBearPig]

We can all agree that Biggie's first 2 albums > Jay's

 

[Pifferry]

I miss when the poll was close.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Ready To Die is an official, 1st ballot classic.....Reasonable Doubt is dope but a revisionist classic.

 

[Pifferry]

Ready To Die is an official, 1st ballot classic.....Reasonable Doubt is dope but a revisionist classic.

"revisionist" There's plenty of classic pieces of work that weren't called that until after the fact, this is one of the weakest arguments people use.

 

[Da_Eggman]

Liquid Swords

gza was like 40 when he made that

 

[IntellectualViolence]

"Its ill when, MC's used to be on cruddy shyt
Took home, Ready to Die, listened, studied shyt
Now they on some money shyt, successful out the blue..."