How long has everyone been “black”?

[Tair]

It’s not ironic, it was the reality of the slave trade. A lot same people getting sold as slaves were also selling slaves themselves.

Until dudes post DNA test proving they themselves aren’t descended from slavers, how can they speak.

How can complain about losing a game your ancestors made the decision to play.

My ancestors chose not to play, keep them out your pleas.

All ADOS DNA are from multiple African countries and continents. You are creating absurd stipulations in order to shut folks up from talking about African participation in the slave trade while tacitly absolving various African tribes/kingdoms that participated in it.
Those little sleight of hand tactics are annoying and don't work. So don't try it.

Watch the video in the post below.

No one is blaming Africa as a whole. We are saying that without African participation in the trade, it wouldn't have existed. This is not debatable by any stretch of the imagination...



Africans, not Europeans, controlled the trade.​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Until dudes post DNA test proving they themselves aren’t descended from slavers, how can they speak.

We can speak because Africans controlled the slave trade......which is our only criticism.

We are not African. We are a unique ethnic group unto ourselves just like Hausa, Fulani, Igbo, Tutsi, etc. We don't know who your ancestors are or their level of participation/non-participation.

It doesn't matter.

The entire African continent 'lost' because of the trade whether they participated in it or not.​

 

[BlackJesus]

Bro it’s right there lmaooo.

Pre 2015: I’m not black I’m Dominican/Nigerian/Belizean Honduran. DONT CALL ME BLACK!

Post 2016: You know as a black man ..

Never heard a Nigerian say they weren’t black tf? It doesn’t get blacker than a Nigerian

 

[HimmyHendrix]

Never heard a Nigerian say they weren’t black tf? It doesn’t get blacker than a Nigerian

Good thing you can see 20+ examples in the OP

Never heard a Nigerian say they weren’t black tf? It doesn’t get blacker than a Nigerian

 

[ignorethis]

All ADOS DNA are from multiple African countries and continents. You are creating absurd stipulations in order to shut folks up from talking about African participation in the slave trade while tacitly absolving various African tribes/kingdoms that participated in it.
Those little sleight of hand tactics are annoying and don't work. So don't try it.

Watch the video in the post below.

lol I don’t have to watch the video, I know more about the reality of the slave trade than them. I’ve read the primary sources of slaves captured in Africa. I’ve heard about it from the perspectives of Africans when it was happening.

A lot of y’all have an imaginary beef with Africans when the reality is some of your ancestors probably were slavers themselves, caught in enemy territory and captured,

or your ancestors got finessed onto a boat lured by red handkerchiefs and shiny things, nobody was responsible for them being on those boats other than the white men and their own decision making,

or your ancestors were supposed to be put to death but the white people came with the boat and offered money for them instead, actually saving your bloodline from ending.

The actual slaves on the boats weren’t blaming any structure back in Africa, they blamed the individuals that victimized them, but they were loved and loved their people.

They spent nights reminiscing together about life back in Africa and some did everything in their power to go back, whether that was buying their freedom or death.

Those were Africans in America, if we’re being honest they had more in common with us than y’all, y’all just popped out their genitals.

 

[Thsnnor]

Nine months before I was born.

 

[Tair]

lol I don’t have to watch the video, I know more about the reality of the slave trade than them. I’ve read the primary sources of slaves captured in Africa. I’ve heard about it from the perspectives of Africans when it was happening.

A lot of y’all have an imaginary beef with Africans when the reality is some of your ancestors probably were slavers themselves, caught in enemy territory and captured,

or your ancestors got finessed onto a boat lured by red handkerchiefs and shiny things, nobody was responsible for them being on those boats other than the white men and their own decision making,

or your ancestors were supposed to be put to death but the white people came with the boat and offered money for them instead, actually saving your bloodline from ending.

The actual slaves on the boats weren’t blaming any structure back in Africa, they blamed the individuals that victimized them, but they were loved and loved their people.

They spent nights reminiscing together about life back in Africa and some did everything in their power to go back, whether that was buying their freedom or death.

Those were Africans in America, if we’re being honest they had more in common with us than y’all, y’all just popped out their genitals.

Disrespectful clown.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

lol I don’t have to watch the video, I know more about the reality of the slave trade than them. I’ve read the primary sources of slaves captured in Africa. I’ve heard about it from the perspectives of Africans when it was happening.

Then you should list your credentials so that we cannot question your opinions.

Here are the credentials of the scholar that I presented.....

Akosua Adoma Perbi - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Akosua Adoma Perbi (born 1952) is a Ghanaian author and a history professor at the University of Ghana.

Perbi is the author of A History of Indigenous Slavery in Ghana from the 15th to the 19th Century and has written over twenty refereed articles and book chapters. Perbi acts as Ghana's permanent representative on UNESCO's International Scientific and Technical Committee on the Slave Route Project. She is also a council member and the treasurer of the Historical Society of Ghana.

She has over 30 years teaching experience.

Education

Perbi had her secondary education at the Achimota Senior High in Ghana. She is an alumna of the University of Ghana where she had her first degree, Masters and a PhD in history.

Career

She began her teaching career in 1974, where she taught at the Aburi Girls' Senior High School as a national service personnel.

She also worked with the Ghana National Archives as Assistant Archivist for two years (1977–79) and an additional two years with the Institute of Adult Education as Resident Tutor (1979-1981).

In 1981, she began lecturing at the University of Ghana till date.


Publications

“Enslavement, Rebellion and Emancipation in Africa: The Ghanaian Experience”, in A.R. Highfield & G.F. Tyson (eds): Negotiating Enslavement- Perspectives on Slavery in the Danish West Indies, Antilles Press, St. Croix, 2009, ISBN 0-916611-10-8, pages 15–29.

A History of Indigenous Slavery in Ghana from the 15th to the 19th Century.

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

As someone who grew up surrounded by non-ADOS black people in Flatbush, I've seen most of them around me claim black since they were kids.

The only people I saw who denied being black were coolies and Hispanics.... And I don't claim them anyway

And honestly, most people didn't speak about this shyt often, if ever.

I was usually one of the few ADOS around and no one gave a shyt. Then again, I grew up in the HOOD, so the Caribbean nikkas couldn't act like they were better than me because they were poorer than I was and they actually fit the stereotypes that people have about American black people lol. Maybe it's different with suburban nikkas...

One tweet that I definitely agree with is where they mention how they used to go at each other. Man, Haitians had it ROUGH in school. To the point where some were straight up claiming to be Dominican or American to avoid getting roasted. Crazy thing is, it was only OTHER Caribbean nikkas doing it.

Just my anecdotal experience, but the situation is far more nuanced in real life.

 

[Jeshaman]

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