How long should Tom Brady be suspended?

How long should Tom Brady be suspended


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I haven't read the report but why are we suspending Brady and not Belichick?


There was clearly communication coming straight from Brady to the ballboy through a third party. Brady would text someone and tell them to get the balls deflated, that person would then contact the ballboy, who would then respond by telling him what he wanted. Sometimes it was shoes, other times autographed jerseys and footballs from Brady. Funniest thing is that the ballboy doesn't seem to like Brady at all and even threatened to go to ESPN.
 
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Brady should get more time than anyone who got suspended for off the field incidents.

Let's be reality, Ray Rice, Greg Hardy, etc, etc events did not happen on the field of play. They did not directly affect the competitive advantage of the game. These dudes getting year long suspensions for shyt that happened off the field. If Brady doesn't get at least 8 games, this will be the single worst handling of a sports suspension I have ever seen.

Severely punish guys for having off the field violations, but let a dude who was cheating IN GAME get off?? :mindblown::camby::dahell:

co-sign 100%. this cannot be stressed enough. what brady did is 10x worse TO THE NFL than the off-field issues since this goes directly to the heart of the game.
 

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there are 31 other white men he has to answer to. Kraft isn't the only owner whose his boss. The other cacs are gonna want their pound of flesh cause Brady didn't just screw black people this time. He messed with the other cacs money.
well played :banderas::mjlol:
 

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This is my team and my QB but I can say 2-4 games is reasonable. I wanna say Goodell will give a face of the NFL in Brady a pass but I think he has to do something to preserve the league's rep. This story is being blown out of proportion though and it's pretty much because they won it all. Anything past 4 games is unnecessary.
 

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A year and get Bill ass too since they did the same to Sean Payton
 
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Anything over 4 games is a joke:beli:. If he gets 8 games I guarantee he sues the league. Convenient how the media is just not even mentioning Aaron Rodgers fully admitting to inflating balls over the limit this year:patrice:. Hate is a strong feeeling:wow:

why is this cac going so hard for brady? is he fukkin u on the side?
 

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Tom Brady up here texting the equipment manager after they busted talking about "You good" he didn't say what happen or acted clueless. Tom Brady was joking them up with signed footballs and Uggs he been doing this for years same like spy gate they need Astericks*** on all their super bowl wins:francis:
 
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Look...by no means am I a fan of the Patriots or Tom Brady. However, absent DEFINITIVE proof that Brady knew FOR SURE that those balls were deflated - and not "more probable than not that he was at least generally aware", as the Wells Report notes - you can't suspend him off what basically amounts to circumstantial evidence. That's how it works, sorry.

More specifically, if it was THAT advantageous then why were his numbers better AFTER the refs inspected the balls at the half?

I just think people saying "he should be banned for a year!" are only saying it cause they hate Brady, not because of any evidentiary allusions of guilt. Cause there ain't none. AND.....if there WAS evidence of guilt that Wells Report would have cited it as a determining factor.

They gon' suspend fool for about 4 games, that's it. IF that.

And I can't stand Brady, but people need to stop the madness already.

you fukkin idiot. Bill Polian said yesterday on ESPN that the MORE PROBABLE THAN NOT standard is the equivalent of being found guilty to the NFL. he said this was the standard the league collectively agreed would be used in determining whether competitive rules were broken. When Ted Wells used that in the report, he would not using it as a way of saying he wasn't sure. He was using it in the manner the NFL wanted. Which basically means we find him guilty.

and if according to the NFL's own standards, Tom Brady is GUILTY of cheating, then he must be punished......SEVERELY. a one year suspension is totally inbounds and appropriate.
 

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A bunch of scorned haters and pseudo legal experts in this thread.


but I'm 'schleep doe :snooze:
After the scandal broke in the early morning hours of January 19, according to the report, there was a significant uptick in communication between Brady and Jastremski. Investigators found this suspicious. Jastremski, who was in charge of preparing balls for game day, hadn't talked to Brady over the phone or exchanged texts with him in six months going into January 19. Over the next 72 hours, according to phone records, they talked on the phone eight times and exchanged 15 texts.

The texts show Brady continually checked up on Jastremski after the scandal broke, talked to him multiple times a day, and even invited him to the quarterback meeting room to talk for the first time in Jastremski's 20 years with the team.

Here's all the communication between the two in the three days after the AFC title game, as detailed by the report.

January 19, the day after the AFC title game: They talk on the phone four times for a total of 25 minutes and exchange 12 texts. It's their first phone communication in six months.
According to the report, Jastremski read a ProFootballTalk article about the deflated football scandal at 7:04 a.m. on the day after the game. Twenty minutes later, at 7:25 a.m., he texted Brady asking him to call him:



(NFL)


Brady calls him a minute later, and they talk for 13 minutes. Jastremski initially told NFL Security that they didn't talk about the deflated balls, but later told Wells that they did.

9:51 a.m.: Brady texts Jastremski checking up on him. Jastremski says he's "still nervous":

Brady (9:51 a.m.): You good Jonny boy?

Jastremski (9:53 a.m.): Still nervous; so far so good though. I'll be alright

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Brady (9:54 a.m.): You didn't do anything wrong bud.

Jastremski (9:55 a.m.): I know; I'll be all good

Brady told investigators he was just supporting Jastremski because he knew Jastremski was responsible for the condition of the balls. Jastremski told investigators he was joking when he said he was "nervous."

10:54 a.m.: Jastremski texts Brady giving him a heads up that head equipment manager David Schoenfeld was going to interview him:

Jastremski (10:54 a.m.): FYI...Dave will be picking your brain later about it. He's not accusing me, or anyone...trying to get to bottom of it. He knows it's unrealistic you did it yourself...

Jastremski (10:55 a.m.): Just a heads up

Brady (10:59 a.m.): No worries bud. We are all good

Jastremski told investigators that the "it's unrealistic you did it yourself" text was a joke.

2:30 p.m.: Brady texts Jastremski asking him to come up to the quarterback room, which is basically Brady's office:

Brady (2:38 p.m.): Jj are you here?

Jastremski (2:38 p.m.): Yup

Brady (2:38 p.m.): Come to qb room

Brady says they discussed ball preparation for the Super Bowl. Jastremski has worked for the team for 20 years and Brady had never called him into his office.

5:21 p.m.: Brady tells Jastremski to call him.



(NFL)


They talk for 12 minutes, again telling investigators they were talking about Super Bowl balls.

January 20: They talk on the phone twice for nearly 10 minutes and exchange two texts.
7:24 a.m.: Jastremski tells Brady to call him.



(NFL)


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They talk for about six minutes. Again Jastremski says they discussed Super Bowl balls, not the deflated ball scandal.

5:31 p.m.: Brady checks in:



(NFL)


They talk on the phone for three minutes. From the report:

"Jastremski said that he did not understand Brady's text message to be a reference to the NFL's investigation of the circumstances surrounding the AFC Championship Game, even though Jastremski had been interviewed by NFL Security that afternoon. Instead, Jastremski said that he understood Brady to be checking in because Brady knew that 'it's a pain in the butt' to prepare over fifty footballs for the Super Bowl."

January 21: They talk twice on the phone and exchange one text.
7:27 a.m.: Brady texts him asking to call.



(NFL)


They talk for 13 minutes. Brady says they talked about Super Bowl balls. Jastremski says they talked about Super Bowl balls and his wedding.

11:45 a.m.: They talk on the phone for seven minutes.

It's important to note that there isn't a full electronic paper trail on Brady because he wouldn't give investigators access to his phone, which investigators say "potentially limited the discovery of relevant evidence and was not helpful to the investigation."

Is this (combined with other evidence suggesting Brady was vigilant about ball inflation levels) enough to conclude Brady was probably "generally aware" of the likely plot? You sleep alright:beli:
 

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After the scandal broke in the early morning hours of January 19, according to the report, there was a significant uptick in communication between Brady and Jastremski. Investigators found this suspicious. Jastremski, who was in charge of preparing balls for game day, hadn't talked to Brady over the phone or exchanged texts with him in six months going into January 19. Over the next 72 hours, according to phone records, they talked on the phone eight times and exchanged 15 texts.

The texts show Brady continually checked up on Jastremski after the scandal broke, talked to him multiple times a day, and even invited him to the quarterback meeting room to talk for the first time in Jastremski's 20 years with the team.

Here's all the communication between the two in the three days after the AFC title game, as detailed by the report.

January 19, the day after the AFC title game: They talk on the phone four times for a total of 25 minutes and exchange 12 texts. It's their first phone communication in six months.
According to the report, Jastremski read a ProFootballTalk article about the deflated football scandal at 7:04 a.m. on the day after the game. Twenty minutes later, at 7:25 a.m., he texted Brady asking him to call him:



(NFL)


Brady calls him a minute later, and they talk for 13 minutes. Jastremski initially told NFL Security that they didn't talk about the deflated balls, but later told Wells that they did.

9:51 a.m.: Brady texts Jastremski checking up on him. Jastremski says he's "still nervous":

Brady (9:51 a.m.): You good Jonny boy?

Jastremski (9:53 a.m.): Still nervous; so far so good though. I'll be alright

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Brady (9:54 a.m.): You didn't do anything wrong bud.

Jastremski (9:55 a.m.): I know; I'll be all good

Brady told investigators he was just supporting Jastremski because he knew Jastremski was responsible for the condition of the balls. Jastremski told investigators he was joking when he said he was "nervous."

10:54 a.m.: Jastremski texts Brady giving him a heads up that head equipment manager David Schoenfeld was going to interview him:

Jastremski (10:54 a.m.): FYI...Dave will be picking your brain later about it. He's not accusing me, or anyone...trying to get to bottom of it. He knows it's unrealistic you did it yourself...

Jastremski (10:55 a.m.): Just a heads up

Brady (10:59 a.m.): No worries bud. We are all good

Jastremski told investigators that the "it's unrealistic you did it yourself" text was a joke.

2:30 p.m.: Brady texts Jastremski asking him to come up to the quarterback room, which is basically Brady's office:

Brady (2:38 p.m.): Jj are you here?

Jastremski (2:38 p.m.): Yup

Brady (2:38 p.m.): Come to qb room

Brady says they discussed ball preparation for the Super Bowl. Jastremski has worked for the team for 20 years and Brady had never called him into his office.

5:21 p.m.: Brady tells Jastremski to call him.



(NFL)


They talk for 12 minutes, again telling investigators they were talking about Super Bowl balls.

January 20: They talk on the phone twice for nearly 10 minutes and exchange two texts.
7:24 a.m.: Jastremski tells Brady to call him.



(NFL)


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They talk for about six minutes. Again Jastremski says they discussed Super Bowl balls, not the deflated ball scandal.

5:31 p.m.: Brady checks in:



(NFL)


They talk on the phone for three minutes. From the report:

"Jastremski said that he did not understand Brady's text message to be a reference to the NFL's investigation of the circumstances surrounding the AFC Championship Game, even though Jastremski had been interviewed by NFL Security that afternoon. Instead, Jastremski said that he understood Brady to be checking in because Brady knew that 'it's a pain in the butt' to prepare over fifty footballs for the Super Bowl."

January 21: They talk twice on the phone and exchange one text.
7:27 a.m.: Brady texts him asking to call.



(NFL)


They talk for 13 minutes. Brady says they talked about Super Bowl balls. Jastremski says they talked about Super Bowl balls and his wedding.

11:45 a.m.: They talk on the phone for seven minutes.

It's important to note that there isn't a full electronic paper trail on Brady because he wouldn't give investigators access to his phone, which investigators say "potentially limited the discovery of relevant evidence and was not helpful to the investigation."

Is this (combined with other evidence suggesting Brady was vigilant about ball inflation levels) enough to conclude Brady was probably "generally aware" of the likely plot? You sleep alright:beli:
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After the scandal broke in the early morning hours of January 19, according to the report, there was a significant uptick in communication between Brady and Jastremski. Investigators found this suspicious.

LMAO@ this. If your regional manager just accused you of purposefully putting too many onions on the burgers at the McDonalds you work at, wouldn't your FIRST PHONE CALL BE TO THE ONION GUY????
 
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