How long til Jay considers Ye a threat that needs to be eliminated.

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How exactly has he been outshining him? It can't be in sells, as BP3 sold more than MBDTF, and he sure as hell isn't on the mic, so I don't get it.

the music. Being an artist. Every kanye album not named 808 has been 4/5, and its really only getting better:gladbron:

Every jay album since American Gangster is worth more as a coaster for a cold drink. I dare you to tell me I'm wrong:wtb:
 

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the music. Every kanye album not named 808 has been 4/5, and its only getting better:gladbron:

Every jay album since American Gangster is worth more as a coaster for a cold drink. I dare you to tell me I'm wrong:wtb:

But they make different type of music

Jay keeps it hip hop

Ye..well..he just on some other sht
 

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the music. Every kanye album not named 808 has been 4/5, and its only getting better:gladbron:

Every jay album since American Gangster is worth more as a coaster for a cold drink. I dare you to tell me I'm wrong:wtb:

Graduation and MBDTF are not 4/5 to me, but to each his own. Also, the only album Jay has released since AG is BP3, which I put on the same level as the Ye albums I just mentioned.
 

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Jay Rothstein went way out of his way to help Kanye. Ye's weak. Ye's incompetent. He jeopardizes the whole roc nation. There's not much more Jay can do for him

My opinion made me think of the movie Casino...If anything, Jay should just ignore Kanye from now on. Kanye's a media attention whore, says really dumb shyt, and is a bad look for Jay as a businessman. Kanye demonstrates little self control these days

I'm going to have to ride with you on this. :cheers: Ye's a liability... as soon as he flops, J will be into the next. :ld:
 
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But they make different type of music

Jay keeps it hip hop

Ye..well..he just on some other sht

Graduation and MBDTF are not 4/5 to me, but to each his own. Also, the only album Jay has released since AG is BP3, which I put on the same level as the Ye albums I just mentioned.

jay-z waits in the corner to see what's hot then jumps on it like a basketball groupie.

Kanye pushes boundaries and makes what's hot. Both are in the strictest sense hiphop artists. One will jump on a record with lil b if its cool. The other drops music that changes the game.

Personal bias aside breh breh you'd know I'm technically right:mjpls:
 

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Kanye is a liability for a boss. Your right hand man wifing up trash reality stars that been passed around. Ye was never able to transcend from just being a rapper to something greater. He thinks hes a artist but doesnt do the work in the studio. He thinks hes a fasion ato but his gear looks like Filth. This new album has 2 good songs on it and is basically about nothing. Neither West or Jz have ever gone diamond. Manufactured gods of rap. Its disgusting.
 

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jay-z waits in the corner to see what's hot then jumps on it like a basketball groupie.

Kanye pushes boundaries and makes what's hot. Both are in the strictest sense hiphop artists. One will jump on a record with lil b if its cool. The other drops music that changes the game.

Personal bias aside breh breh you'd know I'm technically right:mjpls:

Like I said...Kanye aint a hip hop artist..he doesnt even wanna be considered such

He's out here making fusion music hardly rappin..

Jay keeps it hip hop..


You're comparing two different types of music

Also as for Jay feeling threatned by ye...:pachaha:

Good joke

Jay has already left his legacy been in the game 20 years..been on a top spot for over a decade..has the respect of his peers both in the past and present
And he's recognized as a hip hop legend alongside Nas Big and Pac

Kanye is not that

So stop it breh..you're trying too hard

That type of talk may work in KTT forums but not hea pleghboi :birdman:
 

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jay-z waits in the corner to see what's hot then jumps on it like a basketball groupie.


So Yeezus doesn't have production from TNGHT, Hudson Mohawke, producers in a genre gaining popularity? Young Chop and Keef aren't on Yeezus? He didn't jump on the 2Chainz bandwagon or hop on a remix to a Katy Perry song? :kobe:
 
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Like I said...Kanye aint a hip hop artist..he doesnt even wanna be considered such

He's out here making fusion music hardly rappin..

Jay keeps it hip hop..


You're comparing two different types of music

Also as for Jay feeling threatned by ye...:pachaha:

No, I'm comparing two men who stand side by side. and one is eclipsing the other musically.

As for your other point. From an outsider perspective yea jay is on top, but for anyone who actually follows hiphop knows jay-z really has always been #2. You cannot say with a straight face jay has been dominating rap music since '96. No, not happening.

Kanye's music is high profile, and is actually good. He is the only legitimate challenger to jay's hiphop throne claim.

I bet you if jay drops another album as lackluster as BP3. This will become a serious discussion.
 
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