How much longer do we have to sit through Trap?

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

idk about drake but kendrick and cole are highly conscious rappers. meanwhile "back in the day", public enemy never topped the chart. there's no reason to complain about "these days" unless you just like complaining and stuck on nostalgia

thats not the chart anybody focuses on. kendrick and cole top the general chart.....the chart that measures all releases, not just within the genre.
bottom line, these days every subgenre and content is plentiful. and conscious music is doing better than ever!
if you prefer the oldies, just say that! but there's no reason to complain about content or sound!

Back then topping the rap charts meant something.

You have to remember, they didn't start using Soundscan to measure how many records people were actually selling until 1991.

They just depended record companies to self-report sales

When they did that, mysteriously they found out that Hip-Hop was selling a hell of a lot more than previously though, which is why in May of '91, NWA's "nikkaz4Life" ended up topping the Billboard Top 200 over people like Paula Abdul & New Kids on the Block

Before that, only Hammer, Vanilla Ice, and The Beasties had ever done it.

So, in the era previous to that, which PE, Run-DMC, and other old-school artists were operating in, they were at a disadvantage against pop artists, who were usually invested in a lot more by record labels who essentially got to tell Billboard how many records they were selling (they were lying).

That's why Hip-Hop artists have essentially dominated the post Soundscan era, because they can't just lie anymore.

25 Years Ago: The SoundScan Era Rocks the Music Industry

It turned out that people were buying a lot more metal, hip-hop, country, R&B and alternative rock albums than the old system claimed. The change on the charts was immediate. The change in the industry was almost as fast. Artists that had been relegated to their genre pools (from Nirvana to Ice Cube to Garth Brooks) were now free to swim in the mainstream.

 

[Killer Instinct]

Haven't heard any trap song against my will in right at a decade. Haven't listened to the radio in just as long. Music tailor made to your taste is as accessible and available as its ever been at any time in the history of music. Mainstream music may be trash, but nobody is forcing you to listen to it.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Are u dumb this ain’t trap

The fact u gotta explain all that lets me know , but keep thinking HER is trap my guy

that is trap

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I dont hate on rap anymore because I have realized I'm just not in the place to connect with it

It's a young man's sport, art form and culture... at some point you can't expect to connect with shyt coming from people half your age. Plus I've personally been listening to rap for damn near 30 years.... I feel like I've heard everything any rapper has to say that I'd want to hear. I barely listen to the rap I grew up with and loved anymore, let alone all this new shyt

So it might not be the music breh... it's probably you, which is no bad thing. There is a whole world of music out there for you to get into and discover the same way you did with rap.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I dont hate on rap anymore because I have realized I'm just not in the place to connect with it

It's a young man's sport, art form and culture... at some point you can't expect to connect with shyt coming from people half your age. Plus I've personally been listening to rap for damn near 30 years.... I feel like I've heard everything any rapper has to say that I'd want to hear. I barely listen to the rap I grew up with and loved anymore, let alone all this new shyt

So it might not be the music breh... it's probably you, which is no bad thing. There is a whole world of music out there for you to get into and discover the same way you did with rap.

What you hit on isn’t specific to rap. It’s the common theme when people start complaining about a lot of things in entertainment and life in general

people are looking for the “new” to bring them the feeling of what they grew up on or hold most dear instead of appreciating the “new” for being it what it is

it’s not the music.its the nostalgia

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

For trap music to die another sound has to become the next ‘club sound’

Only thing even close to that is drill, all I see is youngings doing the Blicky twirl at house parties

edit: man this thread is a bunch of old men shouting at the sky, Brehs well passed their 30s complaining of music that’s meant for folks who are 18+. nikkas here talking about Griselda, look I like them too but they are not catching on that type of music is for you old heads and no one under the age of 21 is gonna rock with them. They don’t know that sound. Again all young people wanna do is party so if that shyt doesn’t have them jumping Don’t waste your time

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

What you hit on isn’t specific to rap. It’s the common theme when people start complaining about a lot of things in entertainment and life in general

people are looking for the “new” to bring them the feeling of what they grew up on or hold most dear instead of appreciating the “new” for being it what it is

it’s not the music.its the nostalgia

You are at the other extreme though. You deem everything new as hot and call anyone who isn't rocking with it lame or old. Both are equally bad because either way you're grading music on shyt that has nothing to do with it.

 

[CrimsonTider]

You are at the other extreme though. You deem everything new as hot and call anyone who isn't rocking with it lame or old. Both are equally bad because either way you're grading music on shyt that has nothing to do with it.

I listen to what I like

when I listen to the Dababy i appreciate him for that. I’m not listening him and trying to placed him in an all time ranking or thinking why he is or isn’t the next Rick Ross or someshyt

Most of what I do is trolling but it’s needed on this geriatric group think that is this forum some times

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I listen to what I like

when I listen to the Dababy i appreciate him for that. I’m not listening him and trying to placed him in an all time ranking or thinking why he is or isn’t the next Rick Ross or someshyt

Most of what I do is trolling but it’s needed on this geriatric group think that is this forum some times

You need to do better at it. You sound like a new trend hopping dikk rider. Bigging up whatever is new to sound like you are in the know. Maybe that is your intention... if so my apologies

If someone thinks new shyt is wack, why should they appreciate it Why does someone preferring old music to new make them "geriatric" or too nostalgic? In damn near every other genre of music it's OK to like or even prefer eras that aren't the most current. Why is it different for rap?

 

[CrimsonTider]

You need to do better at it. You sound like a new trend hopping dikk rider. Bigging up whatever is new to sound like you are in the know. Maybe that is your intention... if so my apologies

If someone thinks new shyt is wack, why should they appreciate it Why does someone preferring old music to new make them "geriatric" or too nostalgic? In damn near every other genre of music it's OK to like or even prefer eras that aren't the most current. Why is it different for rap?

Who said rap is different from other genres

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Who said rap is different from other genres

Nobody said it, I see it in how it's discussed

No jazz head is shytting on Giant Steps for being like 70 years old but if someone likes 20 year old rap they're "geriatric". Why is that?

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

Back then topping the rap charts meant something.

You have to remember, they didn't start using Soundscan to measure how many records people were actually selling until 1991.

They just depended record companies to self-report sales

When they did that, mysteriously they found out that Hip-Hop was selling a hell of a lot more than previously though, which is why in May of '91, NWA's "nikkaz4Life" ended up topping the Billboard Top 200 over people like Paula Abdul & New Kids on the Block

Before that, only Hammer, Vanilla Ice, and The Beasties had ever done it.

so the fact that there were rap acts that had topped the chart before the system changed just goes to prove my point. it was more pop rap topping the chart "back in the day", not conscious music and def not public enemy. someone already posted in depth about this. i know it hurts, but it is what it is.
on the other hand, if youre a true hip hop head that appreciates conscious rap or lyricism, you would just be glad that today's best are conscious and lyrical and are doing better than most and better than the past
otherwise just say you stuck on the oldies and move on lol

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

so the fact that there were rap acts that had topped the chart before the system changed just goes to prove my point. it was more pop rap topping the chart "back in the day", not conscious music and def not public enemy. someone already posted in depth about this. i know it hurts, but it is what it is.
on the other hand, if youre a true hip hop head that appreciates conscious rap or lyricism, you would just be glad that today's best are conscious and lyrical and are doing better than most and better than the past
otherwise just say you stuck on the oldies and move on lol

Hammer, Vanilla Ice, & The Beasties were anomalies that's my point.

After Soundscan's change, NWA, Ice Cube, Dre, Snoop, Cypress Hill, 2pac, etc. . . and other groups started topping the charts because they weren't being held back anymore.

I never said it was impossible for Hip-Hop to chart back in the day, just that it was damn near impossible for Hip-Hop to top charts and that a lot of groups like Run-DMC & PE would've topped the Billboard Top 200 if their records had been made 3 years later.

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

Hammer, Vanilla Ice, & The Beasties were anomalies that's my point.

After Soundscan's change, NWA, Ice Cube, Dre, Snoop, Cypress Hill, 2pac, etc. . . and other groups started topping the charts because they weren't being held back anymore.
I never said it was impossible for Hip-Hop to chart back in the day, just that it was damn near impossible for Hip-Hop to top charts and that a lot of groups like Run-DMC & PE would've topped the Billboard Top 200 if their records had been made 3 years later.

even if you consider those three as "anomalies", there were more rappers doing better than public enemy. fresh prince was going triple platinum AND charting higher in 1988. this was before the change you seem to be using as an excuse. NWA went triple platinum and was charting higher in 1988. this was before the change you seem to be using as an excuse. this is the same year PE and Run DMC only went single platinum so idk why you think they would not only chart higher than the more popular rap acts but also other genres

again someone who claims to have been in the business at the time posted in depth about this just one page prior. scroll up and read it. conscious music just wasnt as popular. just be glad it is now!

 

[Cave Savage]

Damn near every song on the radio/rap caviar has the same trap beat
Excessive hi hats + muddy bass
It's not an old head complaint, the shyt is really sounding cookie cutter now