How much longer do we have to sit through Trap?

[CrimsonTider]

as a hip hop head, i never sat through it, its a non-factor except for like 5% of what i consume. change the channel breh, you'll find something you like and if you dont then maybe rap isnt for you

you’re not a hip hop head

nikka trap literally referred to content. The sound was varied before the producers became stangnant, only changing shyt up when mimicking the newest wave.

trap music is a sound

 

[DoomzdayzV]

Its not even "trap"........theres no real name for whats going on right now, the issue is that its too easy to make and publish music now.....people with little to no music sensibilities or passion can make a whole album in like 2 days and master it on some bullshyt like Landr.

The end result is boring 808 drums, corny stock samples, and undeveloped/overprocessed vocals.

 

[FeverPitch2]

A lot of dudes yearn for the return of boom bap
Here's the thing about boom bap
People get it confused with Golden Era, East Coast boom bap is immediately post Golden Era
Boom Bap crystallized around Enter The Wu-Tang, Illmatic and The Infamous. You can throw in Enta Da Stage if you want.
Boom Bap's fatal flaw was that it was catered to only one type of listener
They used to call these dudes "hardrocks" on the east coast
This type of dude typically hugged the block all day and night
Smoked weed and drank throughout most days, didnt hold a job or bring in substantial income
Gross estimate 60% of these types were in the street life; the rest being teenagers or college aged young adults

The aforementioned albums were by hardrocks and spoke directly to the hard rock experience
Which at the time was new
Boom Bap conveniently forgot the roots of hip hop
Hip Hop originated as a party sub culture
The objective was to turn the party out through b-boying, deejaying, and emceeing
The main problem with Boom Bap is that not everyone is a hard rock
Boom Bap's doubling down on the machismo was a direct reaction to the rise of West Coast gangsta rap in the late 80's-early 90's
In the aftermath of Straight Out of Compton, the East was embarrassed to realize that their current reigning champs were the Native Tongue crew and acts influenced by that vibe
So NY rappers went about butching it up to defend their street rep

Musically, Boom Bap was reactionary in the sound of the music itself.
When the reviled West Coast gangsta emcees embraced funk music, Boom Bap reacted by dismissing funk and any other groove based music even though they had been cool with it previously
Boom bap chose to sample jazz and eventually anything abstract because the drums were the main focus
Boom bap tried to make the music as dark and menacing sounding as possible to back up the attitude of the emcees and their subject matter
By doing so, they squeezed all the soul and groove out of the music
B-boys couldnt bug out to this music. Women were displaced altogether
The hardrocks loved it.
Because of the underserved audiences left behind by boom bap, Puff was able to easily slide in and dominate by serving both audiences at the same time.
To this day, he has not been forgiven by certain segments of hip hop society for quashing the dominance of Boom Bap with his fairly obvious brainstorm

TL;DR - Boom Bap was destined to be short lived because it was for and by street dudes and left everyone else in the cold. Because of that flaw, boom bap will not dominate again like it once did for a brief period post Golden Era

 

[Musty]

There's a certain type of trap I like and a certain type I don't. I don't know the names of the sun genres.

I like 2Chainz, Jeezy, Migos....

I don't like Cut It, Hardaway, Moolah, Baking Soda I got baking soda, etc.

 

[ThaEruditious]

trap music is a sound

nikka no the fukk it ain't, trap existed before TI gave it a fukking name. Ghetto Mafia was trap music before it was even called trap music and TIP and Jeezy took the shyt into mainstream. It is not a goddamn sound, it refers to the subject matter. Learn yo history, bruh.

 

[Musty]

I am pleased to see us moving past the Lil Wayne Young Money era. I don't like that they ruined my 20s tho.

 

[RammerJammer]

There’s plenty of new boom bap breh, find it.

 

[DoomzdayzV]

oh and I been neck deep into hip hop since 88....and Im still not sure wtf BOOM BAP hip hop actually is

the hip hop I fell in love with was mostly Funk and Disco drumbreaks, with jazz and RnB samples over top.

 

[Complexion]

Keeping it a buck, I think the next wave will be even worse. Both aurally and conceptually as well as lyrically.

Those who've been around the block can see the devolution in full effect because rap is ultimately the soundtrack of the youth and each generation that comes produces yet more basic children who are easily entertained with disposable music.

The trap wave was symptomatic of this but best believe the kids are getting just as much out of it as y'all did with boom bap, G funk or whatever else was kicking as your hormones were rising. Spoke on this before:

Why was everything in the 90s better?

Your hormone levels.

To go deeper, neural excitation due to new memory traces being laid which can never be recreated as the first hit always gets you super high combined with a peak mindbody filled to bursting with all kinds of feel good endorphins and a general lack of responsibility.

You could literally be surrounded by the worst "everything" ever and it would still be amazing due to these factors alone as long as it was minimally stimulating because you'd fill in the blanks.


If you can read between the lines I've just told you how you can be happy at any point in life.

At some point in 2042 someone will make a thread called "Its time to admit that the 20's was a fun decade" as they sit there listening to rappers that sound like R2D2 freestyling on meth over a beat made from TV static and the sound of DNA being hollowed out.

We're witnessing a race to the bottom in pretty much every single aspect of what it means to be human and the popular culture of the times represents this degradation along with the simultaneous rise of the digitization of life. Interesting times, for sure.

 

[director_of_bands]

johnny cinco just dropped a new tape my trap exit has been delayed indefinitely I'll check back in in 2 months

 

[FeverPitch2]

There’s plenty of new boom bap breh, find it.

 

[director_of_bands]

did 2chainz fall off? I bushed him and his tape soon as I seen the ariana grande collab but seems like he's done now?

 

[BmoreGorilla]

A lot of dudes yearn for the return of boom bap
Here's the thing about boom bap
People get it confused with Golden Era, East Coast boom bap is immediately post Golden Era
Boom Bap crystallized around Enter The Wu-Tang, Illmatic and The Infamous. You can throw in Enta Da Stage if you want.
Boom Bap's fatal flaw was that it was catered to only one type of listener
They used to call these dudes "hardrocks" on the east coast
This type of dude typically hugged the block all day and night
Smoked weed and drank throughout most days, didnt hold a job or bring in substantial income
Gross estimate 60% of these types were in the street life; the rest being teenagers or college aged young adults

The aforementioned albums were by hardrocks and spoke directly to the hard rock experience
Which at the time was new
Boom Bap conveniently forgot the roots of hip hop
Hip Hop originated as a party sub culture
The objective was to turn the party out through b-boying, deejaying, and emceeing
The main problem with Boom Bap is that not everyone is a hard rock
Boom Bap's doubling down on the machismo was a direct reaction to the rise of West Coast gangsta rap in the late 80's-early 90's
In the aftermath of Straight Out of Compton, the East was embarrassed to realize that their current reigning champs were the Native Tongue crew and acts influenced by that vibe
So NY rappers went about butching it up to defend their street rep

Musically, Boom Bap was reactionary in the sound of the music itself.
When the reviled West Coast gangsta emcees embraced funk music, Boom Bap reacted by dismissing funk and any other groove based music even though they had been cool with it previously
Boom bap chose to sample jazz and eventually anything abstract because the drums were the main focus
Boom bap tried to make the music as dark and menacing sounding as possible to back up the attitude of the emcees and their subject matter
By doing so, they squeezed all the soul and groove out of the music
B-boys couldnt bug out to this music. Women were displaced altogether
The hardrocks loved it.
Because of the underserved audiences left behind by boom bap, Puff was able to easily slide in and dominate by serving both audiences at the same time.
To this day, he has not been forgiven by certain segments of hip hop society for quashing the dominance of Boom Bap with his fairly obvious brainstorm

TL;DR - Boom Bap was destined to be short lived because it was for and by street dudes and left everyone else in the cold. Because of that flaw, boom bap will not dominate again like it once did for a brief period post Golden Era

All of this is false. The father of that whole sound was Marley Marl who influenced Primo, Large Professor, Pete Rock etc. Most of Marleys hits were 86-90. But I would say New Jack Swing was more a reason for the grimey shyt of the early 90s more than what was happening on the west coast

 

[Musty]

did 2chainz fall off? I bushed him and his tape soon as I seen the ariana grande collab but seems like he's done now?

I mean.....he's almost 40. He's in fadeout mode along with Yo Gotti and Jeezy

 

[FeverPitch2]

All of this is false. The father of that whole sound was Marley Marl who influenced Primo, Large Professor, Pete Rock etc. Most of Marleys hits were 86-90. But I would say New Jack Swing was more a reason for the grimey shyt of the early 90s more than what was happening on the west coast

How is it false?