How much proof of aliens would you need to satisfy you?

[TNOT]

If they do show up I want them to have brown skin.



Just for the fukkery




The fukkery would be so satisfying


The pleas the CAcs would cop

“We never really hated them, it just that we wanted to push them hard so they could be great”

 

[badboys11]

It’s insane to think that an alien life form from a different planet would have to abide by any rules on this planet.

The AIDS virus could be an alien life form

Aliens could be completely unobservable from any way that we observe phenomena (five senses) so they could be here in ways that we wouldn’t be able to comprehend.

Aliens could be sound waves or electromagnetic waves

If there are aliens, I doubt that they function in any way close to how humans or mammals or anything on Earth functions.

Agreed.

It trips me out how people think these so called ufos are spaceships from other planets with creatures piloting them. I kinda believe some these reports are describing a form of life we are incapable of understanding or communicating with. Biological organisms that exist in our atmosphere and can travel wherever the fukk they want including outer space, playing with fighter jets the way dolphins play with boats

The government already released actual videos of UFOs. They really did. Check AATIP out. If you don’t believe in aliens now, you’re simply in denial or are too afraid of the ramifications of such beings that you’ve tricked yourself into just ignoring it


Edit: the post above me already mentioned it. He’s not lying

Why is your first assumption aliens? For all we know those were videos of top secret military projects, put out there to see how the public responds. And if the crafts are not ours, why do you believe they come from outer space?

 

[Ciggavelli]

Agreed.

It trips me out how people think these so called ufos are spaceships from other planets with creatures piloting them. I kinda believe some these reports are describing a form of life we are incapable of understanding or communicating with. Biological organisms that exist in our atmosphere and can travel wherever the fukk they want including outer space, playing with fighter jets the way dolphins play with boats



Why is your first assumption aliens? For all we know those were videos of top secret military projects, put out there to see how the public responds. And if the crafts are not ours, why do you believe they come from outer space?

You clearly didn’t read the article or watch the videos.

The leader of that pentagon program straight up said that the technology shown in the videos is not from our planet, as it displays technological advancements that no country on the globe currently has. No offense, but I’m going to have to believe an expert from the pentagon, who studied this shyt for a living, more so than a random on a message board

Edit: but I hear what you’re Saying though. We need more research

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

Can y’all post some links where I can read up on all this

In addition to that New York Times report that was already posted, there are numerous articles interviewing one of the pilots that was involved in the video from 2004 that the Pentagon released.

This is an ABC news interview and article about his interview.

Navy pilot recalls encounter with UFO: 'I think it was not from this world'

Again, none of this satisfies the scientific definition of "proof", but IMO it's the strongest evidence yet of intelligent extraterrestrial life. If you have documented visual evidence, corroborated by multiple types of tracking instruments, that all record aircraft performing feats that defy the known laws of physics, at the very least you can conclude it's not man made.

I try not to fall down the "God of The Gaps" rabbit hole of thinking and keep everything reasoned and science based, but once you establish that there weren't errors in the recording instruments, that the data you have available is legitimate, and no Earthly technology could account for what you've documented, proposing alien technology as a possible explanation is not an irrational conclusion.

 

[Man Down]

For real.

I personally believe that the existence of aliens is too scary for most people, and they laugh it off as a hoax, in order to not shatter their world view. The obvious questions one asks after realizing that aliens exist are just utterly frightening to most. For example, are the aliens good or bad? What does this say about earthly religions and “god?” How much more advanced are they then us? Why are they abducting us? Etc.

Also, I think the people that comprehended the gravity of the NYT article, already believed. It wasn’t groundbreaking to us. We already knew that shyt. Those that don’t believe simply said it was some sort of “government” craft (even after the Pentagon admitted that the technology was so much more advanced than any technology from any nation).

Fox News, as much as I hate them, had multiple tv personalities do segments on AATIP and aliens. Tucker Carlson went in depth about it. This was just the start of a slow disclosure that the government is conducting to introduce the alien reality in a way that doesn’t cause terrible panic. It’s so slow that we might think nothing is really happening, but it is. Movies, TV, books, are all slowly introducing the topic to the masses.

Yep


I believe everything that is happening today, with the pace we consume info via social media, to like you said the multiple movies, shows, comics etc. is indoctrinating us to get ready to receive something (pause) whether aliens or anything else.

 

[badboys11]

You clearly didn’t read the article or watch the videos.

The leader of that pentagon program straight up said that the technology shown in the videos is not from our planet, as it displays technological advancements that no country on the globe currently has. No offense, but I’m going to have to believe an expert from the pentagon, who studied this shyt for a living, more so than a random on a message board

Edit: but I hear what you’re Saying though. We need more research

Breh your edit confused me a lil, but ima put it like this

Governments lie.

Government experts told me iraq was building nuclear weapons, and we needed to go to war to stop them from attacking us

They lied

Put your faith in government experts and what they say. They have been lying about this ufo phenomenon since the 50s, but now you believe them?

TBH its the perfect coverup. We dont know what it is and nobody here has that technology. When it pops over russia or china, they think ufos, not usa black projects doing survelliance

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

Breh your edit confused me a lil, but ima put it like this

Governments lie.

Government experts told me iraq was building nuclear weapons, and we needed to go to war to stop them from attacking us

They lied

Put your faith in government experts and what they say. They have been lying about this ufo phenomenon since the 50s, but now you believe them?

TBH its the perfect coverup. We dont know what it is and nobody here has that technology. When it pops over russia or china, they think ufos, not usa black projects doing survelliance

I don't mean any disrespect, but it's really a bit of an ironic mind fukk that the dudes in this thread making the case FOR aliens, are the rational ones in the discussion.



One of the main problems with conspiracy theorists is that they really don't grasp what it would take to coordinate the efforts they believe in.

Is it honestly plausible that the Department of Defense coordinated with 4 different US Senators (who are part of the legislative branch of government, not the executive branch), the New York Times, and a privately owned company (To The Stars Academy), all in some elaborate scheme to defraud the public into believing that aliens may have visited Earth, but as it turns out, the public didn't even give a fukk about their grand scheme in the first place?

All just to secure a whopping $22 million dollars of the defense budget?

Just ONE of the planes that followed the UFOs cost more than it did to fund the entire program.

What incentive would the government have to lie about something like this? This isn't Iraq and neither dikk Cheney or Halliburton had anything to do with AATIP. We're talking about mere pennies that was spent on this program.

And if this were a coverup of secret US technology, it kinda defeats the purpose if you're going to release video detail of it to the public, doesn't it?

If the Air Force has tech that achieves speeds in a matter of seconds that defy the laws of physics, without propulsion, and doesn't even create a sonic boom, while also being able to come to a complete stop instantenously, why would they ever reveal that information?

 

[Rell84shots]

None, Because they're not going to be some small little green men. We're going to mess around and have some 8ft tall motherfukkas roaming around trying to experiment on us.

 

[badboys11]

I don't mean any disrespect, but it's really a bit of an ironic mind fukk that the dudes in this thread making the case FOR aliens, are the rational ones in the discussion.



One of the main problems with conspiracy theorists is that they really don't grasp what it would take to coordinate the efforts they believe in.

Is it honestly plausible that the Department of Defense coordinated with 4 different US Senators (who are part of the legislative branch of government, not the executive branch), the New York Times, and a privately owned company (To The Stars Academy), all in some elaborate scheme to defraud the public into believing that aliens may have visited Earth, but as it turns out, the public didn't even give a fukk about their grand scheme in the first place?

All just to secure a whopping $22 million dollars of the defense budget?

Just ONE of the planes that followed the UFOs cost more than it did to fund the entire program.

What incentive would the government have to lie about something like this? This isn't Iraq and neither dikk Cheney or Halliburton had anything to do with AATIP. We're talking about mere pennies that was spent on this program.

And if this were a coverup of secret US technology, it kinda defeats the purpose if you're going to release video detail of it to the public, doesn't it?

If the Air Force has tech that achieves speeds in a matter of seconds that defy the laws of physics, without propulsion, and doesn't even create a sonic boom, while also being able to come to a complete stop instantenously, why would they ever reveal that information?

No disrespect on either side, this just one of those 3am random convos, but ive already addressed everything your commenting on.

Governments lie. And our US media has turned into an extension of government propaganda. Sad truth but its reality

my original question was this. What makes you think these craft came from outer space? No satellites ever track these ufos coming and going.

 

[WavyHair ChippedTeeth]

Lil Mayo already here stuntin'.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

shyt ain’t even a question if you ask me.

If you really think we live in this big ass universe and we are the ONLY FORMS OF LIFE then something is wrong with you

The contrary is actually closer to being true (see: Fermi Paradox), because we have no calculation or concept of the probability -

Sure, there are plenty of sensible things we can say about them. We can talk about the experiments we've done to create organic molecules from raw, inorganic ingredients. We can discuss the complex organic molecules we find in interstellar space or in meteorites. We can mention the tantalizing hints that worlds in our Solar System house about watery pasts, sub-surface liquid oceans, and potentially fossilized microbes. And we can look at the fact that, if we extrapolate the genetic information encoded in extant organisms back to the formation of the Earth, they indicate that what we consider "life" to be may have had its origin billions of years before our planet came into existence.

But none of that is reasonable for calculating a probability for the likelihood of life arising from non-life, given an Earth-like world. The odds may be extremely high, like a few percent, as some have estimated. But the odds could be catastrophically low: one-in-a-million, or even worse. Life could be incredibly rare. The fact that life exists on Earth does not mean we didn't win the cosmic lottery. We cannot draw a reasonable conclusion from a sample size of one.

What you stated is the equivalent rationale of saying if you don't believe in God then "something is wrong with you".

 

[blaccbeard]

Gotta see it with my own eyes.

 

[New Username]

They need to let us know what's really going on with the moon

 

[Kwéyòl]

We still hate each other for the color of our skin, who we choose to have consensual sex with and religious beliefs. If aliens showed their existence to us there would be chaos.

 

[killacal]

We still hate each other for the color of our skin, who we choose to have consensual sex with and religious beliefs. If aliens showed their existence to us there would be chaos.

We?