How old were you when you started to question religion?

[Billy Hoyle]

Much of history can be tossed in the bushes based off of this.


and really you weren't there, s you can dismiss it? you're better than that.

Yeah but you can test the plausibility of historical actions to determine whether they were possible.

I think Jesus existed and he was a great man. His teachings are incredible for humanity.

That doesn't mean he walked on water or rose from the grave. I think that shyt was made up over time to make him seem more than a human so people could worship him instead of merely learning from him.

 

[mbewane]

Thank God () my parents were not really religious. My pops has this on/off relation with religion, but I think he really appreciates the "community" aspect of it more than anything. Was never thought anything about religion.

When I started getting informed myself, the whole thing seemed more like than anything else so even though I keep an interest about religion as polticial/social phenomenon, it got the real quick

 

[superunknown23]

7/8, when a lady went into fake spirit at my grandma's church.

They can be hardcore indeed...

 

[ManxOfxThexYear]

I hated going to church as a kid, like others said, felt like a chore. My mom used to take me until I was 15 and i started working, then completely stopped going unless i absolutely had to for like a holiday with the fam or death or something. I remember I started praying every night before I went to bed because of an overdose during surgery I had as a kid and just stopped one day. Noticed, my life was the same whether or prayed or not and just did me from that point on. As I got older, just started seeing it for what it is and at first was agnostic, but then once I got married became atheist.

 

[hayesc0]

Not gonna get into this, but that's why vegetarians are completely full of shyt.

I just can't get past God being "all knowing" while we have free will. You literally cannot have both. Either he knows what's gonna happen and you don't have free will, or he doesn't and you do. The old saying "God has a plan" is bullshyt unless you don't believe in free will.

I think most people are just scared of afterlife, and religion paints a nice pretty place for you to believe your dead friends have gone and you will go.

That's why I had to come with that ether about freewill it makes on sense people always say god did this god did that when it fits there agenda but when something bad happens its god gave us freewill lol.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I hated going to church as a kid, like others said, felt like a chore. My mom used to take me until I was 15 and i started working, then completely stopped going unless i absolutely had to for like a holiday with the fam or death or something. I remember I started praying every night before I went to bed because of an overdose during surgery I had as a kid and just stopped one day. Noticed, my life was the same whether or prayed or not and just did me from that point on. As I got older, just started seeing it for what it is and at first was agnostic, but then once I got married became atheist.

Question: What kind of ceremony did you have when you got married? What's your partners belief system?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

There's hundreds upon hundreds of failures and gaps of logic in religion, I just can't comprehend how any semi intelligent person could somehow ignore a few, let alone all of them

One of my favourites is the "soul". Next time you're speaking to a theist and they're talking about their imaginary friend, ask them if humans have a "soul", at what point in homosapien evolution was this magical "soul" implanted? Otherwise if it was always there, does every single lifeform contain a "soul" then? Do plants? Do bacteria?

Be a brain who denies you are yourself brehs

The thing that rubs me the wrong way about the soul argument, is simply, are all souls created before or after the creation of the physical body? If it's before, then that means there is a farm system of souls somewhere a la the matrix - doesn't sound heavenly does it? If it's before, that means every second of every day, hundreds and billions and trillions of "souls" are being "aborted" because potential sperm/egg connections are not being made.

If it's after then what makes you believe the soul can exist without the body?

 

[ManxOfxThexYear]

Question: What kind of ceremony did you have when you got married? What's your partners belief system?

Iight so all my family is catholic and she is catholic. So already, im "fukked" in theory. We wanted to wait til after our daughter was born to get married, but her dad was on that shotgun prompto without the shotgun. I'm not even making this up, we got married in the, I guess you can call it, hall that was located at his trailer park. Then had the reception at a golf course nearby.



So cause it wasn't in a church like she wanted, we found this dude to do a catholic "ceremony" per say, she picked out what from the bible she wanted in it. To me, I honestly didn't care about what was said or who did it.

4 years later, we only have gone to church for when our daughter was baptized (once again, her family was wanting it) and I really didn't care to fight it because the less I deal with them the better and only if her family invited us and maybe a few other times, but its seriously been less then 10 times, if that.

Hearing her family logic behind religion, really pushed me from agnostic to atheist. She wants my daughter raised up catholic like she is, me personally, I don't care, only because my atheist belief, is my own personal belief. I never forced it upon my wife nor tried to argue about only when she wanted to argue with me about it. As far as why i'm letting my daughter being raised like that. I was raised the same way and honestly,its a battle not worth the fight. If my daughter becomes a full devout catholic, cool. If she becomes a full blown Muslim, cool. My daughter will always be my daughter and whatever she decides in life, i'm going to support her and let her come to her own decisions on her belief as she gets older, either she is going to question it like me or not like my wife.

Either way, she is her own person, and I'm going to do my best as a father to guide her the right way.

 

[DEAD7]

Yeah but you can test the plausibility of historical actions to determine whether they were possible.

I think Jesus existed and he was a great man. His teachings are incredible for humanity.

That doesn't mean he walked on water or rose from the grave. I think that shyt was made up over time to make him seem more than a human so people could worship him instead of merely learning from him.

I'm no religious nut, but right here is where the argument would be... if there is one.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I think I've told this story before, but I'll do it again.

I was baptized Methodist, but I went to a catholic school from kindergarten - 4th grade. If you know how crazy the NY public school system was back in the mid 90s, then you know why most parents tried to send their kids to private school. But in NY, you end up going to private school with people of all backgrounds. So as a Baptist, in Catholic school, with Hindu friends, it never seemed important who prayed to what God.

To this day, I hold this experience as my fundamental belief in agnosticism/athiesm. It's why in every thread we have between atheist and [insert religion], the first thing I ask is "so what God are we talking about here?" I need to know exact characteristics, because anything that may alienate a religious group adds to our argument.

It's very easy for people who believe in a God to gang up on atheist. But if you make them argue from the POV of their denomination, the fight becomes a free for all, and it becomes much harder for them to make bold claims. When religious folks argue with us, their words sound like mandates from heaven. When they argue among themselves, the conversation sounds like two average humans brainstorming.

 

[Billy Hoyle]

I'm pretty much an atheist, but I hate evangelical atheists with a passion. They come off as condescending as fukk.

I'm all for you believing whatever you want, as long as you don't use it as a tool for power or to oppress others.

 

[tmonster]

Much of history can be tossed in the bushes based off of this.

really? based on my comment? so...much of history consists of physically impossible acts? what kind of fukking comic book you live in?

 

[tmonster]

really you weren't there, so you can dismiss it? you're better than that.

mane...GTFOH with your nonsense

 

[tmonster]

 

[Billy Hoyle]