HuffPost Article: Black Men Don't Like Black Women
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PartyHeart
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Why would I admit to being wrong about something I'm not wrong about?
BW do not care about WM that is the truth. Whether you like it or not, BW and most people in general including BM do not see Black male rappers who promote non-Black beauty above and beyond as something to address white men about. They see it as a BM problem. They don't see BM celebrities trashing BW and marrying WW as a WM problem. Most people again do not see BM on social media taking pride in making BW the butt of jokes and think "hmm I need to go address WM about this". They see it as a BM issue.
Now I understand there are things at play that make white PEOPLE (I see your focus on the men, yet you will cry foul that there is any such thing as male privilege
) very culpable in the way we are represented (or not represented) but at the end of the day I also understand the sentiment of others. These thoughts and feelings of Black inferiority do come from white people, but BM are not exempt from being checked when they perpetuate it just because they aren't the originators.
LadySimone
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scandal aint the #1 show amongst black women for nothing
So are a lot of other shows where black women are with black men.
"Twice as many BW finding gainful employment isn't surprising because we go to and complete school at much higher rates than BM. This needs to change."
"Also, media promotion is incredibly important."
Who do you think controls majority of the businesses and media yall want access and acceptance from
Name all these contemporary rappers without Black women in the video
J Cole and Kendrick....Black women in the video
Just watched the Rich gang video....Black women in the video
Just watched the Rae Srummand video....Black women in the video
And who even watches videos like that anymore? BW watch Scandal ever Thursday at 9 pm for 20 episodes
Get that 2005 ass argument out of here
Bondye Vodou
Proud practitioner of the "High Science"
this is the dumb ass game BW play when we talk about media promotion, y'all scapegoat the rappers and pretend they're the reason BW feel valueless. when i'm talking about systemic negative media promotion of black women in tv, movies, news, magazines, and beyond.Why would I admit to being wrong about something I'm not wrong about?
BW do not care about WM that is the truth. Whether you like it or not, BW and most people in general including BM do not see Black male rappers who promote non-Black beauty above and beyond as something to address white men about. They see it as a BM problem. They don't see BM celebrities trashing BW and marrying WW as a WM problem. Most people again do not see BM on social media taking pride in making BW the butt of jokes and think "hmm I need to go address WM about this". They see it as a BM issue.
Now I understand there are things at play that make white PEOPLE (I see your focus on the men, yet you will cry foul that there is any such thing as male privilege
but hey, one moment, y'all bytching about how the black rappers are misogynist who degrade women, next minute, you're whining because they're not degrading black women. no hypocrisy, right?
"(I see your focus on the men, yet you will cry foul that there is any such thing as male privilege
)"what male privilege do we benefit from? intangible media promotion that we don't even control? let's not go down that road because you have not, and can not prove black male privilege exist.
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TMNT4000
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Yo it's like black women(the minority of them) looking for a excuse to date out.
We debunk the whole black men marry/dating out in large numbers.
We debunk the whole black women marring up in IR.
We debunk the whole black men don't support black women.
They make up any excuse to jump ship and it's annoying.
We debunk the whole black men marry/dating out in large numbers.
We debunk the whole black women marring up in IR.
We debunk the whole black men don't support black women.
They make up any excuse to jump ship and it's annoying.
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Not jump ship. You mean not build Black institutions and beat Cac supremacy. A government check/ living under WM rule isn't dating out but it is comfy and easy.
bruh, BW are just confused. they're looking at our community relative to other communities, and they view it as a sinking ship.
but instead of just admitting that, they have to pretend that it's all these other factors that are causing them to want to date outside their race. fukked up part is, even when they do date outside their race. they still feel empty, because dating cacs wont give them global recognition or value.
fukked up part is, the only thing that could fix these problems -- a solid black patriarchy, BW will rail against. just the word patriarchy and the idea of black men being in positions of power scares these women shytless.
TMNT4000
Superstar
Why is that tho?
Wait, first black women were complaining about showing ya'll in a negative light in these rap videos.
And now your complaining about rappers not promoting black female beauty because they doing the same thing to non black women that ya'll was complaining about from the jump.
Which is more offensive to ya'll.
Okay, I agree to that, but can you agree that this article and others are nothing but propaganda to divide black men and women?
PartyHeart
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this is the dumb ass game BW play when we talk about media promotion, y'all scapegoat the rappers and pretend they're the reason BW feel valueless. when i'm talking about systemic negative media promotion of black women in tv, movies, news, magazines, and beyond.
All of which BM are
but hey, one moment, y'all bytching about how the black rappers are misogynist who degrade women, next minute, you're whining because they're not degrading black women. no hypocrisy, right?
"(I see your focus on the men, yet you will cry foul that there is any such thing as male privilege
what male privilege do we benefit from? intangible media promotion that we don't even control? let's not go down that road because you have not, and can not, prove black male privilege exist.
No such thing as male privilege? Right now Black men can behave as sexually irresponsibly as they want and YOU will say when it results in an unwanted pregnancy, it is the woman's fault because she is the 'final decision maker'. You can ignore all actions Black men take in relation to Black women and say its BW's fault because BW allow it. You all can rail all day against BW that date out, try to excommunicate them from the community, and be silent as a mouse when a full 6% of BM do it more than BW. You can focus Black issues ENTIRELY around the Black male experience, completely ignoring Black women's perspective, and still claim pro-Black, yet turn around and call Black feminism the devil that divides the race. Matter of fact you all demand that Black women do not take their gender into consideration at all when fighting for their rights, and actually feel justified. You can say that just by virtue of you being born a certain way, you deserve power and rights to leadership over me because I wasn't born that way. Thats how much privilege you have. Please have several seats. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
And yes, BW rail against patriarchy as they should. In your desperation to be like your white daddy you have completely dismissed your own history and the fact that patriarchy was never 'required' to make our communities successful. They have you convinced the only way you can truly be powerful is if you oppress your women as much as they oppress theirs. And you've bought it hook line and sinker because they have already let you know they damn sure they aren't going to let you ever overtake them, so this is your only shot at power. Thats why now you look at your own women as something to conquer and control and you make that your primary objective. Meanwhile how many of them have shot and killed us in the streets in this past week? But Black men not being patriarchs in the way they want to be over Black women is the real problem. This is pathetic.
Oh and no matter how hard you try to separate the negative portrayal of Black women on TV from BM, they use you as the face to do it. You mean to tell me Black men can't stop participating in Black female degradation?
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Why is that tho?
they've been raised to believe black male leadership is oppressive towards black women.
basically, if you're seen the movie 'The Color Purple', that's how black women imagine a solid patriarchy
PartyHeart
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Why is that tho?
Wait, first black women were complaining about showing ya'll in a negative light in these rap videos.
And now your complaining about rappers not promoting black female beauty because they doing the same thing to non black women that ya'll was complaining about from the jump.
Which is more offensive to ya'll.
Okay, I agree to that, but can you agree that this article and others are nothing but propaganda to divide black men and women?
Why are the only choices that Black women have to be perpetually violated or perpetually ignored???? And why are you comfortable with that?
And yes it does divide Black men and women. I didn't even really want to get into this topic other than to say that the parallel drawn between Black women feeling invisible and street harassment was asinine.
THEY DON'T EVEN AIR RAP VIDEOS ON TV ANYMORE.
Meanwhile Scandal, L&HH, RHOA got yall looking like whores and WM and BW produce and star on those.
so you believe that if these rappers didn't exist, black women would have their heads in the clouds with such high self esteem, right? do you really believe that?
idiot, in trying to find some type of black male privilege that doesn't exist, you just exposed female privilege. women have the reproductive privilege to choose whether or not they want to have children. you have the privilege to abort, adoption, or raise the kid. these are all privileges that males do NOT have. you also have the privilege to receive social welfare if you're not financially stable enough to raise children.
but you want to pretend nikkas that are "sexually irresponsible" have some sort of privilege, when there's a system in place to punish deadbeat dads.
rambling rambling rambling and not 1 true privilege was listed.
in the US, the black community had the most intact structure when it was patriarchal, can you deny that? and what'd i tell ya, @TMNT4000, see how they view black patriarchy as inherently oppressive against them. meanwhile, all the perks and benefits of patriarchy, like marriage, protecting and providing for a woman, promoting your women as the best, are all patriarchal values.
that's why these dumb ass women will rail and rail against how patriarchy is evil, then turn around and claim white men treat them better. they dont even understand the hypocrisy in their beliefs, it'd be funny if it weren't so sad.
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