Human garbage Ted Cruz introduces bill to impose term limits

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  • Set 24 year term limits for both House and Senate.
  • Set age limit, whatever term a member turns 70 is their last term.
Now someone tell me why this won't work.
Only way you're going to get this is if young people turn out to vote.

Ironically, that would solve both these "problems." :francis:
 

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What's the argument in favor of term limits? We've had them here in Michigan for a while for state officials.



The truth about term limits

Your state is full of corruption and mismanagement. I don't think this article fairly represents a nationwide term limit.

And if you take money out of politics then your shytty lobbyists can't yield power over the revolving door of politicians.
 

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Its a trap based on their assumption the blue wave will continue, and they need to plant seeds now for their return to power.

So lets say there are a Dem majority in Congress and this is made law. in 12 years instead of a Republican running against an incumbent with a 12 year history of progressive work behind them. They will get to run against a newbie just like themselves, but I bet that Democratic newbie won't have the same money to burn as the Republican newbie because Republican always have more money.

Then as soon as the Republican's control congress again, the Republican elected officials will say "Lets get rid of term limits because you lose professional expertise and were so good at our job, etc, etc,..... blah, blah, blah"

If the Republicans propose something policy wise that sounds good and fair its a trap, If Ted Cruz is involved in the policy then it is a dirty trap.
 

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Its a trap based on their assumption the blue wave will continue, and they need to plant seeds now for their return to power.

So lets say there are a Dem majority in Congress and this is made law. in 12 years instead of a Republican running against an incumbent with a 12 year history of progressive work behind them. They will get to run against a newbie just like themselves, but I bet that Democratic newbie won't have the same money to burn as the Republican newbie because Republican always have more money.

Then as soon as the Republican's control congress again, the Republican elected officials will say "Lets get rid of term limits because you lose professional expertise and were so good at our job, etc, etc,..... blah, blah, blah"

If the Republicans propose something policy wise that sounds good and fair its a trap, If Ted Cruz is involved in the policy then it is a dirty trap.

This is a bunch of nonsense.

Republicans always have more money than Dems?

They’re gonna create term limits for a decade and then revoke them?

Really?


As shytty as Cruz is, he pretends to be a constitutionalist so his motivations for this deal would surely lie in checks and balances of top level politicians.
 

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As shytty as Cruz is, he pretends to be a constitutionalist so his motivations for this deal would surely lie in checks and balances of top level politicians.

If he's pretending, then his motivations surely doesn't lie in anything concerning checks and balances. Though, I'm sure he's lying if he says it is.
 

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This is a bunch of nonsense.

Republicans always have more money than Dems?

They’re gonna create term limits for a decade and then revoke them?

Really?


As shytty as Cruz is, he pretends to be a constitutionalist so his motivations for this deal would surely lie in checks and balances of top level politicians.

Yes, they would change the law back because Republicans have shown consistently they don't care how they acquire or keep power as long as they have it. Look at Wisconsin and NC where they lost the governorships so their reaction was to strip the Governor positions of power and then empower the legislatures where the Republican did still have the power. Hell, even now we're seeing the President willing to shut down the whole federal government rather than deal with a democratic house he doesn't have power over. He's even considering declaring a national emergency to increase his power and no one in his party is looking to stop him, because as a group they understand his motivation to keep power no matter what.

The Republicans would definitely change the rule back to favor them maintaining power once they've acquired it if this passed.
 

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Yes, they would change the law back because Republicans have shown consistently they don't care how they acquire or keep power as long as they have it. Look at Wisconsin and NC where they lost the governorships so their reaction was to strip the Governor positions of power and then empower the legislatures where the Republican did still have the power. Hell, even now we're seeing the President willing to shut down the whole federal government rather than deal with a democratic house he doesn't have power over. He's even considering declaring a national emergency to increase his power and no one in his party is looking to stop him, because as a group they understand his motivation to keep power no matter what.

The Republicans would definitely change the rule back to favor them maintaining power once they've acquired it if this passed.
but a dem would just step into their place :dead: you think the voters who put AOC in her seat are gonna turn around and vote for a republican? i don't see what the fukk this has to do with parties :dwillhuh:

i think it should be put into place :yeshrug: no more than 12 years in congress, no more than 12 in the senate
 

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but a dem would just step into their place :dead: you think the voters who put AOC in her seat are gonna turn around and vote for a republican? i don't see what the fukk this has to do with parties :dwillhuh:

i think it should be put into place :yeshrug: no more than 12 years in congress, no more than 12 in the senate

Who said anything about AOC? :comeon:



AOC is is a solidly blue district so of course when she leaves another Dem would be in her place. Also AOC had to beat someone for her job. You can't be the man unless you beat the man.... word to Rick Flair.
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This has more to do with Purple districts and making it easier for Republicans in battleground states to regain power, in 12 years by allowing them to avoid facing an incumbent. Think about it, let's say the Dems are doing a decent job on progressive policies. Then when the current Dem in congress steps down in 12 years what does the new Dem run on? "Hey vote for me to keep this program you love" welp Republicans can pull their normal snake shyt and say "I won't touch the program,,,,,, but I'll reduce taxes". We've seen this shyt recently with Obama to Hillary when it shows hard it is to run on the coattails of someone else.
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The idea of term limits seems fine on the surface, but it creates a lot of opportunity for fukkery and trust the Republicans are about that fukkery life and would take full advantage of it.
 

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Who said anything about AOC? :comeon:



AOC is is a solidly blue district so of course when she leaves another Dem would be in her place.
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This has more to do with Purple districts and making it easier for Republicans in battleground states to regain power, in 12 years by allowing them to avoid facing an incumbent. It also makes money more important in those races since each candidate is fighting for an open seat. Think about it, let's say the Dems are doing a decent job on progressive policies. Then in 12 years what does the new Dem run on? "Hey hire me to keep this program" welp Republicans can pull their normal snake shyt and say "I won't touch the program,,,,,, but I'll reduce taxes". We've seen this shyt recently with Obama to Hillary when it shows hard it is to run on the coattails of someone else.
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you're overthinking it :yeshrug:

who's the number one case for term limits in the government? mitch mcconnell
 

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you're overthinking it :yeshrug:

who's the number one case for term limits in the government? mitch mcconnell

Mitch isn't evil cause he been there forever, he's evil because no way could he have clawed his way to the top of the Republican Senate if he wasn't. Same for Schumer but its more tied to his connection to big donors. If Kentucky wanted McConnell out he would be out. Real talk if this Boycott Israel story gets legs there is a legit chance Schumer will be out. There is a mechanism to remove senators and congressmen.

AOC is a great example of that, she took out a guy who had lost touch with his constituents but had gathered a lot of power in DC. In the end he was replaced by AOC who does represent what her constituents want.

The real term limit discussion needs to be had on the Supreme Court. That's the part of the system that is completely broke and unrepresentative of voters desires.
 
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