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No one forced those people to spend their money. They obviously got something from it or went looking for something on their own.

Now answer the question. What makes you oh so better than Africans then?
What do you mean? We’ve personally sent Africans to school, and built schools without investments from Africa. AKA non transactional love.

No one forces you to do the right thing ever, you just do….

And I wouldn’t even know where to start tbh.

You want to know what i normally say though?
 

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I applaud your patience but sometimes you just gotta just hit these Fleers with hard facts black and white


If Black America was a country in Africa they would be the most prosperous nation in Africa by almost every single metric with:

  • A GDP PPP of $1.5 Trillion (#1) followed by Egypt ($1.12 Trillion), Nigeria ($ 1.01 Trillion), South Africa ($0.73 Trillion) and Algerian ($0.49 Trillion)
  • A GDP Per Capita at PPP of $30,000 (#1). Coming in after them would be Seychelles ($27,572), Mauritius ($22,211), Equatorial Guinea ($20,360) and Botswana ($17,630).
  • The 4th lowest poverty rate of 17% (only higher than Seychelles, Mauritius and Cape Verde)
  • The most educated people with 85% High school completion followed only by Egypt (67%) and South Africa (64%).
  • The highest college graduate base 25% degree holders.
  • The most access to healthcare with 80% insured.
  • The 2nd most banked nation at 84%(only beaten by Mauritius 85%)
  • They would have the 2nd highest Life Expectancy (74.8 years) second only to Algeria with 77 years.
  • The lowest death rate at (0.7 per 1000), beating out Rwanda, Algeria, Morroco, Rwanda, and Kenya who all average out at 5 deaths per 1000.
  • They would have the highest homeownership rates (45%)
  • They would have the biggest Employer base (9%) - 2.6 million business
  • They would have the highest employed population with 67% of the adult population formally employed, followed by Lesotho (43%), Mauritius (42%), and Botswana (41%).
  • The highest percentage of Dollar millionaire (1%) followed by Seychelles 0.4%, Mauritius 0.3%, and Botswana 0.1%.
  • The highest wealth per adult $35,000 (Africa averaging $200 per adult in wealth).

and this is just economic and education. everyone already knows we are culturally the most influential and the most talented as well. From inventions that impact the world globally to entertainers. There is no African Garrett Morgan. No African Aretha Franklin.
None of this adds up. What are the sources for this and how do you quantify a people who were brought up in a system they did not design or create? It doesn't make sense.
 
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What do you mean? We’ve personally sent Africans to school, and built schools without investments from Africa. AKA non transactional love.

No one forces you to do the right thing ever, you just do….
So I'm to assume when some of y'all do it, it is entirely altruistic but when someone non-black does it, there is an ulterior motive? That doesn't make sense.
Most likely, they were getting something out of it, either emotional or a chance to say they did. That and people have been saying Africa is a chance for investment.

And I wouldn’t even know where to start tbh.

You want to know what i normally say though?
I'll go slowly for your sake then. You're of African origin. You said this. Now you're supposedly o so much better than Africans. How come? Apparently that African origin played no part in it, based on what you're saying.
 

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None of this adds up. What are the sources for this and how do you quantify a people who were brought up in a system they did not design or create? It doesn't make sense.
Understand this my friend. Read this clearly.

The fact that we are even your competition, should not be. We are an extremely young ethnic group, Africans have been around for thousands of years. Your comp are asians and europeans, not us.

Here’s the truth, Africans have taken the single greatest lost in human history. Blessed with the most beautiful, resource rich continent in the world. And lost it in 30 years because of tribal division and centuries of slave trading. There is no Loss in the history of our species that compares. I’ve checked.

You lost the entire continent, to outsiders. There is no greater conquering. You have so much work to do. And there’s nothing you can do to undo what has already happened.

If Africans were the face of blackness we as a race would be even less respected than we already are. We are not perfect, but Black Americans have been amazing for the image of global blackness. Because leave it up to Africans we’d be known as genociders, slave traders, rapists, and bushmeat eaters. And I know africans are not just that, even though all that happens over there in large numbers. But if it were not offset with Black American dominicans on the world stage that’s what they would push.

Be grateful.

Have a good one.
 

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I'll go slowly for your sake then. You're of African origin. You said this. Now you're supposedly o so much better than Africans. How come? Apparently that African origin played no part in it, based on what you're saying.
I’m very proud of and love my West African ancestry.

But yes we are better than Africans of yesterday and today.

It’s an undeniable fact.
 

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Understand this my friend. Read this clearly.

The fact that we are even your competition, should not be. We are an extremely young ethnic group, Africans have been around for thousands of years. Your comp are asians and europeans, not us.


Here’s the truth, Africans have taken the single greatest lost in human history. Blessed with the most beautiful, resource rich continent in the world. And lost it in 30 years because of tribal division and centuries of slave trading. There is no Loss in the history of our species that compares. I’ve checked.

You lost the entire continent, to outsiders. There is no greater conquering. You have so much work to do. And there’s nothing you can do to undo what has already happened.

If Africans were the face of blackness we as a race would be even less respected than we already are. We are not perfect, but Black Americans have been amazing for the image of global blackness. Because leave it up to Africans we’d be known as genociders, slave traders, rapists, and bushmeat eaters. And I know africans are just that, even though all that happens over there in large numbers. But if it were not offset with Black American dominicans on the world stage that’s what they would push.

Be grateful.

Have a good one.

I never said you were our competition. You are the ones who keep talking about Africa as a whole and ignoring that most of the countries in Africa are actually younger than most people. The tribes themselves were doing well until multiple groups came at them. Even worse, their wins and so on are ignored by some of y'all to push white supremacist ideology. They won't comment on how Kongo forced the return of thousands of slaves, only to have to fight another whole other group of europeans. They won't comment on how various other groups were chased out of Africa and time again.

Instead we get some random fukk who has never accomplished anything for himself trying to hang his hat on the accomplishments of his ancestors while pushing white supremacist ideology. shyt's amazing but unsurprising.
 

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I never said you were our competition. You are the ones who keep talking about Africa as a whole and ignoring that most of the countries in Africa are actually younger than most people. The tribes themselves were doing well until multiple groups came at them. Even worse, their wins and so on are ignored by some of y'all to push white supremacist ideology. They won't comment on how Kongo forced the return of thousands of slaves, only to have to fight another whole other group of europeans. They won't comment on how various other groups were chased out of Africa and time again.

Instead we get some random fukk who has never accomplished anything for himself trying to hang his hat on the accomplishments of his ancestors while pushing white supremacist ideology. shyt's amazing but unsurprising.
I know europeans are evil dog.

We just needed yall to be better, for all of us

can’t play big brother if you don’t want big brother responsibility.

And you guys failed us. It is what it is.
 

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I’m very proud of and love my West African ancestry.

But yes we are better than Africans of yesterday and today.

It’s an undeniable fact.
No it's not. But why then? What makes you better? Is it your genetics or your experiences in the US? It has to be one or the other if you're claiming full on supremacy.
 

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I know europeans are evil dog.

We just needed yall to be better, for all of us

can’t play big brother if you don’t want big brother responsibility.

And you guys failed us. It is what it is.
No we didn't fail you. You keep thinking people exist for your sake, which is weird and stupid. You're defining people by what they do for you. In any case, you were given a chance to do your thing with Liberia. And that got hit by the white man too. Your way of viewing the world is a white supremacists wet dream. And I don't think you know europeans are evil since you love absolving them of their role in things. Oh well.
 

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No it's not. But why then? What makes you better? Is it your genetics or your experiences in the US? It has to be one or the other if you're claiming full on supremacy.
It’s not genetics. Actually a lot of my african genetics are why i am who i am

in my heart of hearts, i think the non stop oppression and lack of a national identity that’s actually comforting has made us stronger

having no “tribe”, no “country” the expectation to be a political powerhouse for the world despite not exactly having a country of our own,

i think it made us better than all of you. and we don’t have anything to hold on to but our blackness and im grateful for that because in a world of white supremacy knowing who you are so aggressively is important

would never want to be an african living in africa who “doesn’t identify with blackness because everyone is black”

or any of that other shyt

we are better. and that’s okay.
 

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No we didn't fail you. You keep thinking people exist for your sake, which is weird and stupid. You're defining people by what they do for you. In any case, you were given a chance to do your thing with Liberia. And that got hit by the white man too. Your way of viewing the world is a white supremacists wet dream. And I don't think you know europeans are evil since you love absolving them of their role in things. Oh well.
You did fail us. How can i think people exist for our sake when no one has ever helped us?

i don’t absolve europeans of anything. but africans are not getting absolved either.

you are the same, africans just lost.

either way i don’t care to identify with africa in the physical sense. i don’t want anything bad for you, but not anything good to be honest

we are on our own and im okay with that.

i’ve been dedicating my life to severing as many black americans from loyalty to africa and back to focus on our ethnic group and i’ve done well.
 

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It’s not genetics. Actually a lot of my african genetics are why i am who i am

in my heart of hearts, i think the non stop oppression and lack of a national identity that’s actually comforting has made us stronger

having no “tribe”, no “country” the expectation to be a political powerhouse for the world despite not exactly having a country of our own,

i think it made us better than all of you. and we don’t have anything to hold on to but our blackness and im grateful for that because in a world of white supremacy knowing who you are so aggressively is important

would never want to be an african living in africa who “doesn’t identify with blackness because everyone is black”

or any of that other shyt

we are better. and that’s okay.
So your answer is "the white man made me this way"? Don't complain when he tells you to say thank you for all he has done to you. He apparently made you better. :manny:
 

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So your answer is "the white man made me this way"? Don't complain when he tells you to say thank you for all he has done to you. He apparently made you better. :manny:
He didn’t do it on purpose. Being abused and neglected by europeans and africans just made us better. you can take credit for that too

had yall actually helped us during the last 400 years of oppression we probably wouldn’t be what we are tbh
 

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You did fail us. How can i think people exist for our sake when no one has ever helped us?

i don’t absolve europeans of anything. but africans are not getting absolved either.

you are the same, africans just lost.

either way i don’t care to identify with africa in the physical sense. i don’t want anything bad for you, but not anything good to be honest

we are on our own and im okay with that.
No, we didn't fail you because a whole continent doesn't exist to serve you. It makes no sense and is just entitlement heaped on top of entitlement. That shyt is weird. And you are absolving europeans of the role they played.

i’ve been dedicating my life to severing as many black americans from loyalty to africa and back to focus on our ethnic group and i’ve done well.
Oh okay. Bye. 👋
 

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No, we didn't fail you because a whole continent doesn't exist to serve you. It makes no sense and is just entitlement heaped on top of entitlement. That shyt is weird. And you are absolving europeans of the role they played.


Oh okay. Bye. 👋
nobody absolving them. “entitlement” for expecting to your “big brother” to help you during a genocide, a cultural deletion, a holocaust all wrapped in one

you nikkas weird man
 
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