So they not in motion like a 18 wheeler?
I appreciate what Nas is doing for the Legends BUT...
- Thread starter C-Styles
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Some of the production on these albums has been great.
The production, marketing aren't the problem. It's the fact that these guys are all washed. Slick Rick still has some creative stuff but for the most part these guys are past their prime and lack the inspiration to make captivating music.
The production, marketing aren't the problem. It's the fact that these guys are all washed. Slick Rick still has some creative stuff but for the most part these guys are past their prime and lack the inspiration to make captivating music.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
lol @ naturally blaming Nas' company for weak production choices.
Artists like Rae and Ghost have had issues picking beats before they got to Mass Appeal. I kinda give Slick Rick a pass because what the hell is a Slick Rick album supposed to sound like in 2025?
Penthouse, doorknobs drawers and the floors is opal
Diamond safe rooms, the indoor pool is purple
all this shyt and you're worried about budgeting for production.
How about 12 songs, 1-2 skits max and bring your best cohesive shyt?
Artists like Rae and Ghost have had issues picking beats before they got to Mass Appeal. I kinda give Slick Rick a pass because what the hell is a Slick Rick album supposed to sound like in 2025?
For someone who raps about the most opulent shyt in the world like GFK does, I kinda don't wanna hear him going cheap on beats. It cheapens his aesthetic.
Penthouse, doorknobs drawers and the floors is opal
Diamond safe rooms, the indoor pool is purple
all this shyt and you're worried about budgeting for production.
How about 12 songs, 1-2 skits max and bring your best cohesive shyt?
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
Dawg, it's a rap song. He's not actually living like that. lol
Awesome Wells
The Bobby Womack of Crack
Mass Appeal gives them budgets, but they're not the largest of budgets.
So how they allocate those funds is up to the artist. Which is why Ghost said the label was mad that he wasn't using certain producers. Mass Appeal will consult and advise, but the artists can do whatever they want with the bread they get from the label. There's a budget set for the WHOLE project. How the money is spent is on the MC's. Some spend more on videos, than on beats. Others, it's vice versa.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
like I said, it's the aesthetic.
It's like if Rick Ross didn't have those glamorous rich beats to match what he's saying. Once he cheapens out on that, it takes away from whatever he's saying.
TrapHouse Rock
All Star
Slick Ricks production was completely on point for the UK/worldwide market (plus you can tell a lot of thought/heart was put into that project and its on par with his second album which I loved) everything else I agree with
I honestly think nikkas is just old and don't give a fukk anymore shyt is just a bag to them
I honestly think nikkas is just old and don't give a fukk anymore shyt is just a bag to them
Agree 
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
It's just not practical. He's not on a major label trying to go platinum. It's a nostalgia play for a certain demographic.
Tommy Gibbs
Superstar
Rae's production was dope. Nottz is NOT a generic producer and he's better than all of your favorite producers. That Nas/Rae collaboration was not a trash beat.
Production is more than just a beat
So you excusing bullshyt
Plankton
Superstar
So you excusing bullshyt
Speaking on Ghost there's 2 ways I see it:
1) I put myself in Ghostfaces shoes. Why go all out, spend a bunch of money to give you what you want and still see the same amount as LL/QTip did their first week? On the flip side, Gunnas album that dropped nearly 3 weeks ago did 80K. Ghost knows this generation ain't spending money on his albums like they did in the 90's/2000's. There's no even trade to recoup if Ghost goes all out to spend money making the best product like that. Might as well give y'all a bunch of unreleased old songs, call it a day and get this money grab by calling it Supreme Clientele 2.
2) With that said, we are speculating that Ghosts Supreme Clientele 2 isn't what we expected because the production was lackluster due to spending but what if Ghosts passion is just gone and he doesn't approach music anymore the way we think he's supposed to? What if he just don't got it like that anymore and he really did the best he could? We all saw that Dr Dre don't got it anymore with that Missionary album with Snoop. Maybe Ghost just don't got it anymore.
Artificial Intelligence
Not Allen Iverson
Not mass appeal fault, albums were done before mass appeal got themThe production has been average at best