I Believe in Patrick Williams
- Thread starter GoldenGlove
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Remember Pat’s 9 assist/1 turnover game?
Dude grew up a guard. Absolutely bizarre that we’ve never seen a consistent version of him. It annoys me cause I see him following shots for rebounds and boxing folks out. He can never put together enough complete games to look like a solid choice. The last two times literally ended in injury (Dec of ‘23 he looked like he was coming the fukk alive before the foot injury and the 4 games before Mitchell Robinson whacked him and caused him to break his hand.)
He falls into the 10 points he gets now. Doesn't get to the FT and doesn't back cut... EVER. Rarely posts up or demand the ball even when a guard is switched on him. Just stands at the 3 point line. Doesn't attack the offensive glass. Just jogs back. Plays damn near asleep for real and still some how winds up with 10 points.
I also think Lonzo Ball has more lobs this season than he does. Just think about that. Lonzo Ball with a zombie leg has caught more lobs this season than Pat has. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
triplehate
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Im glad this was upped!! I brought this thread up with my wife last week when we were talking about nikkas not knowing when to give up on their first love and still fighting thru it.
I couldn't remember the player name so I couldn't show it to her. I never would have remembered Patrick Williams. That's so random
I couldn't remember the player name so I couldn't show it to her. I never would have remembered Patrick Williams. That's so random
get my pool
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I been calling Passive Williams a bum for 3ish years. Can’t believe they gave him that contract
Line tonight 24 minutes vs a G-League Roster...
10 points on 4/8 shooting and 2/3 from 3
2 rebounds
0 assists
0 steals
0 blocks
0 fouls
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triplehate
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If he comes off the bench that's good productionLine tonight 24 minutes vs a G-League Roster...
10 points on 4/8 shooting and 2/3 from 3
2 rebounds
0 assists
0 steals
0 blocks
0 fouls
Billy used to bench him pre-extension. He's just one of those players that's going to give you the same production in 20 minutes or 35.
It is what it is at this point
beenz
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and edit tendencies on 2k23 and 2k24 because they'd have Pat still averaging like 9 ppg in year 5 and shyt.
Nah, he's an above-average defender who does what has become one of the more valuable archetypes since the Golden State revolution: 3-D wing.
He's down in the dumps right now in terms of how Bulls fans feel about him but there isn't a team that wouldn't grab him, especially if they thought actually running 3-4 plays for him a game would get more value out of him. His biggest weakness is not being a better rebounder but if another team was either rebuilding and gave him a bigger role OR brought him off the bench for matchup-based defensive minutes, he is serviceable.
The #1 mistake with the whole situation was drafting him to be a centerpiece knowing what his biggest issue is (no self-determination and hustle)and switching from a developing team to a win more team and putting his passive ass as the 5th option with a limited role. Assuming he is never going to get better, there are better ways to use him still and it appears that whatever they do with him off the court, his on the court role is "find out how to make a difference." He spent a couple of years getting benched the moment he made a mistake and was never really forced to play through it. If he was going to be a net-negative, we would have known this definitively had AKME not pivoted from "draft and development" to win-now. Add in two seasons derailed by serious injuries and we have the same guy we got 4 years ago only a little bit worse.
Guy doesn’t look like he likes playing basketball that much. He has all the tools and he shows flashes but he’s just very ho hum most of the time. If he wasn’t physically gifted he’d be a software engineer or something.
It is interesting because the Bulls should have been able to easily squeeze him due to his injury history and performance. I know it was put out there that at least 1 team was going to pursue him in RFA but it's clear as day right not that they should have let him the market distract his deal.
The player option in Year 5 is very stupid