I believe this is just one of many universes.

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There are planes of consciousness. Consciousness, thought and sentience are before and beyond our universe.

The laws of physics in this universe restrain our existence to one plane at a time until we cross at the expiration of our physical form.

The next universe may encase our consciousness and then those laws apply.

I can see how the concepts of heaven and hell form from centuries of humans pondering dimensional laws.

There are multiple universes. It is fathomable based on scale, time and space.
Genesis 1:6-8

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

so i can illustrate what this means to me allegorically (keep in mind prior to the creation of the firmament/heaven the waters only descriptions are light and dark...)

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so heaven can then mean the physical world and the physical divisions that exist from the largest down to the smallest levels

remember Genesis is describing the creation of the heaven and the earth, reality as you know it...hell is an introduced idea from man.
 

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@Koichos what is your take on "multiverses" and what the "heaven" means in your space
 

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How do you know it's those Gods and not these Gods :lupe:

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can you translate the meanings of those names? in paganism the use of divine ideas as beings has been used to control peoples understanding of reality to the point of servitude and slavery. The God of Abraham, of Moses and of Jesus saves us from these false understandings.

you could name egypt, india, china etc in paganism deities are treated as servants to the practitioner, to a God loving man we are Gods servants. A role reversal.

So if you choose to follow the old way and old understanding, you will be delivered into a fate of your own choosing. Respect the name of the Lord and keep his commandments :wow: hearken not to those vanities
 
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It is partially true. CERN is using the LHC to create a portal to bring beings from another "dimension"/plane into our realm.





hell is an introduced idea from man
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Isaiah 14:9
Hell from beneath is excited about you, To meet you at your coming; It stirs up the dead for you, All the chief ones of the earth; It has raised up from their thrones All the kings of the nations.

Ezekiel 31:17
They also went down to hell with it, with those slain by the sword; and those who were its strong arm dwelt in its shadows among the nations.

Amos 9:2
Though they dig into hell, From there My hand shall take them; Though they climb up to heaven, From there I will bring them down;
 
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It is partially true. CERN is using the LHC to create a portal to bring beings from another "dimension"/plane into our realm.






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Isaiah 14:9


Ezekiel 31:17


Amos 9:2
my point still stands :hubie:

"Cursed be Canaan, a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren"

meditate on the word but judge it at your peril.
 
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