I blame Jim Jones for NY not making a come back

[Sad Bunny]

JIMMY PITTED 50 AND CAM AT EACHOTHER AND RUINED DIPSET

HE RUINED NYC ALONG WITH 50 CENT BEEFING WITH EVERY NYC RAPPER

fukk 50 AND JIMMY

 

[SlurRty]

These nikka Jimmy was all in his feelings.. He had the next big thing and held him down... Would have been perfect timing. Max could have had a nice run from 2010 til now

would have been a #1 song




Even had songs the whole family could bump at a cook out

max b reallly a legend... i dont care what nobody says

 

[KravenMorehead™]

Nahhh. Jim was a grimey nikka. Kept getting Cam into some shyt by running his mouth. Alot of Cam's street issues started from Jim. He fukked up the Dipset movement by his ego being so big and him thinking he was on the same level as Cam. 50 peeped that out and exploited it and Jim fell right into the shyt. Him and Juelz sabotaged and broke the group up. This is something everyone close to them knows.

What's crazy is when the cam/ fif beef started cam was on the record on some "i see what you tryna do you ain't finna break us up them my brothers" i was like

next thing you know nikkas beefin

 

[mikishere]

max is a lot of yall fav rappers fav rapper

 

[mikishere]

It ain't just Max. Jimmy screwed over alot guys. Even JR Writer ended up hating him. As did Hell Rell for a short while, before realizing he can't even get work without the Dipset moniker so he went back right into his arms.




His collaboration wit Max really helped French on his resume, but how is he the only reason French blew up? I'd put that on Debra Antney and Harry Fraud if anyone. French was already signed before Max, so Max can't be the "only reason" he blew up

french would have never had that NY push and fanbase without max... he linked with max and started getting massive love in NY after that which led to those other moves.. even changed his whole style up

 

[EducatedBrothaFromTheBank]

Right, Max B along with Tru Life, Saigon, Uncle Murder, Papoose were suppose to usher In a new golden era of NYC hip hop right

 

[tremonthustler1]

That's not what fukked up Dipset and u know it. People fukked wit Killa Season. Anyone who knows anything knows the shyt was Jimmy's fault.

everyone expected Killa Season to be THAT record for Cam. The movie, some of the tracks that were previewed, all that.

Then he got shot, album got pushed back, the issues with his mom then he got so consumed by the whole shyt with Jay-Z that he fell back altogether. While that was happening, Jim was doing it on his own to EVERYONE'S surprise. Of course Jim got gassed up and thought he could lead. He was DOING it with TWO crews.

The rift between Cam and Dipset was mostly Jimmy, yes, but Jim was putting out piff at a time when Cam simply wasn't. From a music standpoint, if not for Jim, Dipset's run woulda been much shorter than it was, cuz Cam was out of it for some real life stuff and Juelz was doped out on lean

 

[Homer Simpson]

the only roc(k) i fukk with is the one up in edgemere

 

[spliz]

Happy New Yitti bawah

U too bro.

 

[straightcash]

french would have never had that NY push and fanbase without max... he linked with max and started getting massive love in NY after that which led to those other moves.. even changed his whole style up

French been changing his style song to song and year to year. Have you listened to French Revolution? Does "It Was All Good" sound anything like "I'm At Ya Wife House" or "You Feel Me"? Saying without Max he wouldn't have had that push is nonsense, since he got those pushes without him. Max and French linked up for strategic reasons (shared beef with Jim Jones), and French was the one who pushed him on Cocaine City and WS. Not the other way around.

He linked up with Akon through Gaby Acevedo, who he's known years before Max (when Max was still in prison).

Source: How to Make It in America: French Montana's Manager Gaby Acevedo on How to Manage a Musician​

He linked up with Deb Antney through Waka's cousin Frenchie. Frenchie is from Queens, New York.

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How could Max give him a NY fanbase when according Max himself, CT was his biggest market. He was blackballed from most places in NY.

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French and Max made their impact in 2009 when Coke Wave came out. But French was already fukking with Akon since 2008. Him being signed had nothing to do with Max; see Gaby Acevedo above.

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French didn't blow up through a NY fanbase. He blew up through industry moves that he did by himself, and ultimately blew up with a Atlanta/Miami fanbase. That NY fanbase didn't come around till Shot Caller, and Harry Fraud gets cred for producing that hit.

 

[spliz]

everyone expected Killa Season to be THAT record for Cam. The movie, some of the tracks that were previewed, all that.

Then he got shot, album got pushed back, the issues with his mom then he got so consumed by the whole shyt with Jay-Z that he fell back altogether. While that was happening, Jim was doing it on his own to EVERYONE'S surprise. Of course Jim got gassed up and thought he could lead. He was DOING it with TWO crews.

The rift between Cam and Dipset was mostly Jimmy, yes, but Jim was putting out piff at a time when Cam simply wasn't. From a music standpoint, if not for Jim, Dipset's run woulda been much shorter than it was, cuz Cam was out of it for some real life stuff and Juelz was doped out on lean

Cam still had shyt like Touch It Or Not. And Wet Wipes. He was still making dope music. Of course Jim had dope music at the time he was using Max B and Stack Bundles talent. Juelz was making noise too he had all his shyt with Wayne goin on. Dipset was a crew and if one not doing well the others can pick up the slack but the damn fabric of the crew was completely ruined by Jim and Juelz and there's no disputing that. They broke the fukkin group up and publicly displayed extreme disloyalty. Jim also got Cam caught up in his street beef at the time and Cam payed the price for it. This all happened for the world to see and it fukked up the group internally and externally. They ruined everything. It's ridiculous to think cause Cam dropped one album not up to par the group would've been done. That doesn't even make sense. Jim broke up Dipset. Bottom line.

 

[Cheese McNair]

Jim Jones and to a lesser extent Juelz singlehandedly destroyed the whole Dipset movement. If I was Cam them nikkas wouldn't be able to look in my direction.

I can see how Cam would have wanted it to. To make an analogy. Cam = Slim Jimmy = Birdman Juelz = Wayne

Thing is Juelz wasnt trying to be in the studio like Wayne. Jimmy was doing okay being Birdman (kinda rapper, kinda executive) but he didnt want to stick with the team. Seem like he wanted to make his own team and take Juelz with him. It's like a combination of greed and laziness ruined the Dips

 

[straightcash]

french would have never had that NY push and fanbase without max... he linked with max and started getting massive love in NY after that which led to those other moves.. even changed his whole style up

I wanna see some receipts for this style change too. Every style he had during 2009, he already showed in '07 and 08. The style shift came about in 2010 if anything. That was the new Trap style, but even that can be traced back to 2008, he had bunch of Southern shyt on his Live From Africa tape. That "I'm At Ya Wife House (Remix)" ft. Rick Ross, that "Straight Cash (Remix)" ft. Gorilla Zoe, and a bunch of Lil Wayne samples. That tape was the first time he collabed with Max B, on the "Waavvy" track.

 

[360dagod]

to be honest...

Those byrdgang mixtapes were

Jimmy just wanted to be the man at any cost

Im still waiting for another mel murda mixtape

 

[360dagod]

Cam still had shyt like Touch It Or Not. And Wet Wipes. He was still making dope music. Of course Jim had dope music at the time he was using Max B and Stack Bundles talent. Juelz was making noise too he had all his shyt with Wayne goin on. Dipset was a crew and if one not doing well the others can pick up the slack but the damn fabric of the crew was completely ruined by Jim and Juelz and there's no disputing that. They broke the fukkin group up and publicly displayed extreme disloyalty. Jim also got Cam caught up in his street beef at the time and Cam payed the price for it. This all happened for the world to see and it fukked up the group internally and externally. They ruined everything. It's ridiculous to think cause Cam dropped one album not up to par the group would've been done. That doesn't even make sense. Jim broke up Dipset. Bottom line.

That Tru life shyt along with his moms being sick pretty much forced cam to lay low...i think he was on probation during all of this

plus i remember some dipset nikka in buffalo being in some distribution ring and the feds were looking at cam..

then jimmy and juelz acting like they dont even give a fukk

I see why the nikka had a meltdown