I Blame Kanye For This Drake Fiasco

[SuburbanPimp]

So you blame Kanye before you blame Lil Wayne and Baby for putting him on?

The Lil Wayne cosign is what got Drake in the door and the sudden stardom....

Like it or not, Lil Wayne was the undisputed top rapper when Drake showed up, so when you getting constant collabs with the top rapper in the game I think that propelled him more than anything, especially Kanye

 

[DrunkerThanAMotherfucker]

Not one classic album between them.

Fall the fukk back son.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Lets be real about it for one second.

Almost 99% of people who are fans of Kanye West, are also huge fans of Drake. I have never met or spoken to someone who thinks Kanye is dope that isn't a big fan of Drake as well. Without Kanye there would be no Drake.

The second issue here is, and its coming from someone who thinks 50 Cent is horrible as a rapper right now, that the 2007 sales battle paved for the Drake ghostwriters issue we have today. In 2007, regardless of the fact he was Curtis "Interscope" Jackson, you had 50 Cent, a rapper once blackballed, from the streets, who lived the life he talked about, so "real" in hip hop terms and wrote all of his own shyt lose out to a guy who had an entire team of writers. And the public celebrated heavy, and did not care about anything other than "the music". Okay. A lot has happened since then, but when a timeline of hip hop's fall is made in the future, there will be a big star in 2007 when people overlooked Kanye's writers, in 2009 with Ross' CO exposal that was overlooked and in 2015 with Drake's ghost writers being overlooked. I hope y'all see the pattern, it's getting worse what is being overlooked. I hope y'all see that maybe by a 2020, 2025, 2030...who the fukk knows, that there literally could be maybe,a transsexual white rapper who's fits an image someone in charge wants to promote and is doing no work but is just a voice being the man/woman(?) runnin the game. And people then will overlook that as well, cause shyt, you know, shyt bumps in the club, and bytches love it, so if you don't, you get no p*ssy!

shyt never gets better boys. When a pattern is made, good luck trying to shift it. Look at Rock Music and how it was taken away from the ones who created it....Black people. It started with little steps, a dip and then the shift. But nah, think of this as some conspiracy or paranoia, it ain't. I can live without music cause I'll be married soon and have kids soon, but there will be a lot of y'all complaining in due time. And others, like now, tagging along trying to fit in cause it's better to be "winning" than understanding.

 

[blockboy504]

Lets be real about it for one second.

Almost 99% of people who are fans of Kanye West, are also huge fans of Drake. I have never met or spoken to someone who thinks Kanye is dope that isn't a big fan of Drake as well. Without Kanye there would be no Drake.

The second issue here is, and its coming from someone who thinks 50 Cent is horrible as a rapper right now, that the 2007 sales battle paved for the Drake ghostwriters issue we have today. In 2007, regardless of the fact he was Curtis "Interscope" Jackson, you had 50 Cent, a rapper once blackballed, from the streets, who lived the life he talked about, so "real" in hip hop terms and wrote all of his own shyt lose out to a guy who had an entire team of writers. And the public celebrated heavy, and did not care about anything other than "the music". Okay. A lot has happened since then, but when a timeline of hip hop's fall is made in the future, there will be a big star in 2007 when people overlooked Kanye's writers, in 2009 with Ross' CO exposal that was overlooked and in 2015 with Drake's ghost writers being overlooked. I hope y'all see the pattern, it's getting worse what is being overlooked. I hope y'all see that maybe by a 2020, 2025, 2030...who the fukk knows, that there literally could be maybe,a transsexual white rapper who's fits an image someone in charge wants to promote and is doing no work but is just a voice being the man/woman(?) runnin the game. And people then will overlook that as well, cause shyt, you know, shyt bumps in the club, and bytches love it, so if you don't, you get no p*ssy!

shyt never gets better boys. When a pattern is made, good luck trying to shift it. Look at Rock Music and how it was taken away from the ones who created it....Black people. It started with little steps, a dip and then the shift. But nah, think of this as some conspiracy or paranoia, it ain't. I can live without music cause I'll be married soon and have kids soon, but there will be a lot of y'all complaining in due time. And others, like now, tagging along trying to fit in cause it's better to be "winning" than understanding.

All people kept saying is but he makes good music to Kanye and Ross and now people who said that shytting on drake

 

[JayBaldacci]

Fall the fukk back son.

Nah.

 

[tonyclifton]

Lets be real about it for one second.

Almost 99% of people who are fans of Kanye West, are also huge fans of Drake. I have never met or spoken to someone who thinks Kanye is dope that isn't a big fan of Drake as well. Without Kanye there would be no Drake.

The second issue here is, and its coming from someone who thinks 50 Cent is horrible as a rapper right now, that the 2007 sales battle paved for the Drake ghostwriters issue we have today. In 2007, regardless of the fact he was Curtis "Interscope" Jackson, you had 50 Cent, a rapper once blackballed, from the streets, who lived the life he talked about, so "real" in hip hop terms and wrote all of his own shyt lose out to a guy who had an entire team of writers. And the public celebrated heavy, and did not care about anything other than "the music". Okay. A lot has happened since then, but when a timeline of hip hop's fall is made in the future, there will be a big star in 2007 when people overlooked Kanye's writers, in 2009 with Ross' CO exposal that was overlooked and in 2015 with Drake's ghost writers being overlooked. I hope y'all see the pattern, it's getting worse what is being overlooked. I hope y'all see that maybe by a 2020, 2025, 2030...who the fukk knows, that there literally could be maybe,a transsexual white rapper who's fits an image someone in charge wants to promote and is doing no work but is just a voice being the man/woman(?) runnin the game. And people then will overlook that as well, cause shyt, you know, shyt bumps in the club, and bytches love it, so if you don't, you get no p*ssy!

shyt never gets better boys. When a pattern is made, good luck trying to shift it. Look at Rock Music and how it was taken away from the ones who created it....Black people. It started with little steps, a dip and then the shift. But nah, think of this as some conspiracy or paranoia, it ain't. I can live without music cause I'll be married soon and have kids soon, but there will be a lot of y'all complaining in due time. And others, like now, tagging along trying to fit in cause it's better to be "winning" than understanding.

I think Kanye is dope as fyck and do not like drake at all

"He" can rap ad has some shyt I like but most of it is trash and caters to females

 

[JLova]

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Lets be real about it for one second.

Almost 99% of people who are fans of Kanye West, are also huge fans of Drake. I have never met or spoken to someone who thinks Kanye is dope that isn't a big fan of Drake as well. Without Kanye there would be no Drake.

The second issue here is, and its coming from someone who thinks 50 Cent is horrible as a rapper right now, that the 2007 sales battle paved for the Drake ghostwriters issue we have today. In 2007, regardless of the fact he was Curtis "Interscope" Jackson, you had 50 Cent, a rapper once blackballed, from the streets, who lived the life he talked about, so "real" in hip hop terms and wrote all of his own shyt lose out to a guy who had an entire team of writers. And the public celebrated heavy, and did not care about anything other than "the music". Okay. A lot has happened since then, but when a timeline of hip hop's fall is made in the future, there will be a big star in 2007 when people overlooked Kanye's writers, in 2009 with Ross' CO exposal that was overlooked and in 2015 with Drake's ghost writers being overlooked. I hope y'all see the pattern, it's getting worse what is being overlooked. I hope y'all see that maybe by a 2020, 2025, 2030...who the fukk knows, that there literally could be maybe,a transsexual white rapper who's fits an image someone in charge wants to promote and is doing no work but is just a voice being the man/woman(?) runnin the game. And people then will overlook that as well, cause shyt, you know, shyt bumps in the club, and bytches love it, so if you don't, you get no p*ssy!

shyt never gets better boys. When a pattern is made, good luck trying to shift it. Look at Rock Music and how it was taken away from the ones who created it....Black people. It started with little steps, a dip and then the shift. But nah, think of this as some conspiracy or paranoia, it ain't. I can live without music cause I'll be married soon and have kids soon, but there will be a lot of y'all complaining in due time. And others, like now, tagging along trying to fit in cause it's better to be "winning" than understanding.

I agree with most of this but I don't think anybody really took Kanye seriously as a rapper. His rapping was just a dressing for his production.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Kanye is one of the GOAT Hip Hop ARTIST to me but I can't deny as a cultural gatekeeper he's been bad. It's weird as fukk that someone with so many classic rap albums has actually had more of detrimental impact on the genre & culture than positive.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Is Drake the only major rapper with ghostwriters that doesn't have a classic album?

Kanye - check 3x minimum
Diddy - check 1x
Dr. Dre - check 3x (NWA catalogue)
Snoop Dogg - check 1x
Eazy E - check 1x

the difference is nobody claims theyre the goat rapper.. unlike kanye, you have people claiming him to be the goat. He was the first non writting mc to ever get held that highly. Drake saw that lane and ran with it.

Kanye the Lawd doesnt use 'alleged reference songs'. Unless they're his own you doofus

i bet theres some big sean reference tracks he made for kanye laying on some harddrive somewhere.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

I agree with most of this but I don't think anybody really took Kanye seriously as a rapper. His rapping was just a dressing for his production.

Theres plenty of people on here who claim hes the goat rapper breh

 

[Yoda]

Theres plenty of people on here who claim hes the goat rapper breh

Name ONE poster.

 

[Danie84]

7-8 classic albums between them though.

Wait, I must have been stuck under Plymouth Rock

.

 

[Prince Cairo]

Lets be real about it for one second.

Almost 99% of people who are fans of Kanye West, are also huge fans of Drake. I have never met or spoken to someone who thinks Kanye is dope that isn't a big fan of Drake as well. Without Kanye there would be no Drake.

The second issue here is, and its coming from someone who thinks 50 Cent is horrible as a rapper right now, that the 2007 sales battle paved for the Drake ghostwriters issue we have today. In 2007, regardless of the fact he was Curtis "Interscope" Jackson, you had 50 Cent, a rapper once blackballed, from the streets, who lived the life he talked about, so "real" in hip hop terms and wrote all of his own shyt lose out to a guy who had an entire team of writers. And the public celebrated heavy, and did not care about anything other than "the music". Okay. A lot has happened since then, but when a timeline of hip hop's fall is made in the future, there will be a big star in 2007 when people overlooked Kanye's writers, in 2009 with Ross' CO exposal that was overlooked and in 2015 with Drake's ghost writers being overlooked. I hope y'all see the pattern, it's getting worse what is being overlooked. I hope y'all see that maybe by a 2020, 2025, 2030...who the fukk knows, that there literally could be maybe,a transsexual white rapper who's fits an image someone in charge wants to promote and is doing no work but is just a voice being the man/woman(?) runnin the game. And people then will overlook that as well, cause shyt, you know, shyt bumps in the club, and bytches love it, so if you don't, you get no p*ssy!

shyt never gets better boys. When a pattern is made, good luck trying to shift it. Look at Rock Music and how it was taken away from the ones who created it....Black people. It started with little steps, a dip and then the shift. But nah, think of this as some conspiracy or paranoia, it ain't. I can live without music cause I'll be married soon and have kids soon, but there will be a lot of y'all complaining in due time. And others, like now, tagging along trying to fit in cause it's better to be "winning" than understanding.

A lot of truth here, but I think you're overestimating the overlap between the Kanye and Drake fanbases. Plenty of Kanye fans are older males who don't really identify with the typical Drake fan at all. You're way off with the 99% thing.

Also, to the OP: the Kanye and Drake connection itself is a little more distant than you make it seem. Sure, he got cosigns from Kanye early on, and a lot of what Kanye did paved the way for Drake (and others), but it was WAYNE who really put Drake on... let's be serious. The high schooler in me still admires Wayne and respects his discography, but if it weren't for Wayne, Drake wouldn't exist nearly in the same capacity as he does today.

Drake and Kanye have never even really sounded the same musically, nor have they catered to the same audiences; sure, there are people who like both, but that has less to do with the artists themselves.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Theres plenty of people on here who claim hes the goat rapper breh

I never seen that. Kanye's rapping is like a dressing for his production.