I can't comprehend how a 20 year old not like Illmatic
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Urbanmiracle
Brooklyn the planet...
If you're a fan of lyrical composition, boom bap beats, the grit of urban city life then Illmatic is for you. It's one of my favorite albums. But I may have a bias seeing how I'm from Brooklyn ny who frequents Queens and can relate way more to it than a person from Dallas or Compton. And it's a different era now. Now it's about image and loud booming beats than it is about lyrics. Back then lyrics had to carry the album as well as production. Now today production carries the album.
So as these kids today maybe fans of this era of rap music might find Illmatic boring, dated and dusty compared to a record produced by mike will with future on the hook. If someone else doesn't enjoy Illmatic won't bother me. I can understand it
So as these kids today maybe fans of this era of rap music might find Illmatic boring, dated and dusty compared to a record produced by mike will with future on the hook. If someone else doesn't enjoy Illmatic won't bother me. I can understand it
The roundtable involvement of some of the day's absolute best producers (Premo, Pete, Large) leads me to believe that this "dusty" sound was striven for and fully intended, and they easily could've opted for something more polished and glitzier or radio-friendly if they wanted.
No fan of fundamentalist hip-hop can ever debate the artistic quality of Illmatic, not back then and never mind now.
DaveyDave
Superstar
that :it sounds dated" shyt is a cop out because then they turn around & hear someone spittin over One Love or NYSOM or something on a mixtape & say it's dope. just like how all these Mac Miller fans were loving that song where he jacked Finesse, if they heard the Finesse song in the first place they'd hate it because it's oldThat sound may be dated to them. I usually let that slide with people when they tell me that.
But you gotta feel It Aint Hard To Tell or GTFOH
NAS - It Ain't Hard to Tell (HD) - YouTube
Hannibal Fox
Eetwidomayloh
it's one of those things that i'm trying to figure out... like, how can you say you listen to hip hop but not be into Illmatic?? I can't understand this, help me out brehs!!
Because tastes vary?
Are you saying that a person is not hip hop if their not into a particular album?
If so then the whole notion needs to be flushed down the toilet.
Seriously who gives a flying fukk, I bet Nas isn't losing any sleep over it and you shouldn't either.
If you like it fine, if you don't that's also fine, bump what you like and mind your business.
Its boring
A 20-year-old from this generation wouldn't be able to listen to Illmatic, because the rhymes and beats aren't catchy enough. 
The buddha monk's in your trunk, turn the bass up
Not stories by Aesop
These kids would be is Nas calling Asap Rocky a Buddha
The buddha monk's in your trunk, turn the bass up
Not stories by Aesop
These kids would be is Nas calling Asap Rocky a Buddha
It Was Written was better. GOAT album is The Blueprint though. Then College Dropout. fukk you old ass nikkas. Stop hating on young nikkas for moving on.
You can't expect people to like what you like when they weren't around to enjoy it at the time it came out because it's not part of their "memories"...
Hip-Hop-Bulls
All Star
true indeed. also nobody says MJ, temptations etc sounds dated, so how does music from the 90s sound dated? This goes back to my point of being conditioned into liking watered down lyrics, production(specifically the hip hop genre). I like 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s stuff, as well as a lot of music from the 2000 era. However people my age don't like music outside of what's playing on the radio now. As a matter of fact, 5-10 years from now if you ask these same brothers and sisters who soulja boy, or young joc is, they'll probably have forgotten. The attention span is short. "Lets forget about slavery, we living in today!" "I could care less about that old outdated music, I listen to what's playing now!"
Old vs Young. Gotta get out the willie lynch syndrome. good music is good music regardless of what time period. I hardly believe the people of this era don't like 80s-90s music JUST because it's a different era. Dope lyrics and beats are timeless. No expiration date. The people have been conditioned to dislike what's old, and like what the radio plays. Wise Intelligent speaks on this.
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Yall nikkaz dont know what u sayin...nikkaz acting as if todays rap game aint good
We got a whole sea of different kinds of rappers that are enjoyed for different reasons
Funny how some of these trapped in the 90's nikkaz saying all this sht about it all being about lyrics when the supposed GOAT of the 90's is one who's lyrics were far from top notch but exuded a passion and voice that connected with people.
And thats the key.
Connection.
As long as the artist is able to connect through entertainment whether it be with the flow, the voice, the style of production, the words etc etc. then the artist si doing his/her job.
The way u guys are trying to scientifically analyze this is comedy because you're not even being consistent with you analysis when it pertains to certain other rappers.
Yall ol nikkaz needa cut it out
We got a whole sea of different kinds of rappers that are enjoyed for different reasons
Funny how some of these trapped in the 90's nikkaz saying all this sht about it all being about lyrics when the supposed GOAT of the 90's is one who's lyrics were far from top notch but exuded a passion and voice that connected with people.
And thats the key.
Connection.
As long as the artist is able to connect through entertainment whether it be with the flow, the voice, the style of production, the words etc etc. then the artist si doing his/her job.
The way u guys are trying to scientifically analyze this is comedy because you're not even being consistent with you analysis when it pertains to certain other rappers.
Yall ol nikkaz needa cut it out
TrapHouse Rock
All Star
i'm 22, it's in my top 2 it switches with infamous all the time
the average 20 year old who doesn't spend their time on the coli or almost exclusively listen to hip hop isn't into the music enough to go back and hear illmatic or to even care about the legacy of great albums from the past
i played the new kendrick album for a friend of mine who isn't up on music like that, expecting him to fukk with it.
when he's like this shyt is pretty good, but are there songs with more melody? it was too many lyrics/stories for him 
people expect a cookie cutter formulaic type of hip hop song, otherwise it's too "hardcore", "dusty", "old" or some other excuse for them
i'm not saying everyone has to like illmatic or albums from the 90s, but if you like the music enough, you will like some 90s hip hop whether that's g-funk, dusty 90s hip hop, southern, or something else
anyone else is just a trend hopping bytch
EDIT: there's also too much music now
the average 20 year old who doesn't spend their time on the coli or almost exclusively listen to hip hop isn't into the music enough to go back and hear illmatic or to even care about the legacy of great albums from the past
i played the new kendrick album for a friend of mine who isn't up on music like that, expecting him to fukk with it.
when he's like this shyt is pretty good, but are there songs with more melody? it was too many lyrics/stories for him people expect a cookie cutter formulaic type of hip hop song, otherwise it's too "hardcore", "dusty", "old" or some other excuse for them
i'm not saying everyone has to like illmatic or albums from the 90s, but if you like the music enough, you will like some 90s hip hop whether that's g-funk, dusty 90s hip hop, southern, or something else
anyone else is just a trend hopping bytch
EDIT: there's also too much music now
notorious8562
Sine Metu
Boring and outdated? 
I consider Illmatic to be the only flawless album in hip-hop.
I consider Illmatic to be the only flawless album in hip-hop.
Some of yall dont grasp that not every person in the world trying to be this huge hip hop head. especially when there is no incentives in being that
DontEemTry
Superstar
Why Nas stans always tryna look down on anybody that don't think Illmatic was all that?
Matter fact my favorite Nas album is IWW. shyts on Illamtic majorly. My opinion.
Matter fact my favorite Nas album is IWW. shyts on Illamtic majorly. My opinion.