i cant contemplate the universe...brehs

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Peace brother thanks for the response, So your going with a Bill O'Reilly tides go in tides go out logic? that if you come to a problem that you don't know or understand that means it is supernatural or your God/deity did it? instead of just saying we don't know how it happened but lets figure it out, your answer would be to insert the God/Deity of your belief system?. Do you take that approach for everything you don't understand? like a math problem? the pyramids of Giza? or do you look for natural ways to explain them?. Why did you try to discredit the big bang theory with the premise that something can't come from nothing but you turn around and say it is possible for something to come from nothing in regards to your Deity?. Also for your last assertion, it seems you have a mentality of wanting to be right versus trying to get it right . If we have a math problem to solve or trying to find a way to fix a crisis or solving a murder, who cares if your answer is wrong? lets just work together to figure out the problem and solve the mystery. IF a god exist cool if one doesn't exist cool we should just want to know if the claims being made are real.

1st. fukk bill o'rielly

2nd. I never tried to discredit the Big Bang theory. I'm just saying I believe that if that theory really happened God is the one that made it big and made it bang.

If something occurs that I don't understand or can't make sense of yea I might insert a little "that's gotta be God" because that's what I use as a reminder that I'm in control of nothing when it comes to my life. I have control of what I do, but ZERO control of what's done around me or to me.

Logic can only go but so far. When we enter the realm of spiritually, which is something I view to be vital to my life and everything I do, there is no grey area. There is no "well you might be right".
when it comes to a question if whether or not my higher power exists There's only "I'm right"

You can be right all day when it comes to the scientific logic of why do stars do this why do planets do that but if your logic can't explain what created planets and stars ...you already kno my answer
 

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Occam's razor doesn't apply in this case since the simplest explanation isn't that 'god' created the universe.



Could any planetary body with some form of liquid water be an option for life.

We could include Jupitor's moon Europa, Saturn's moon Enceladus and the dwarf planet Ceres.



I work for the DoD (finance and accounting) and I see the amount of money that is spent on military...every day! It's appalling how little NASA is funded.



It's my hope before I die that life on another planet is confirmed. Whether it's simple life or advanced life...any discovery will just be amazing and I hope still alive when it happens.

then what is the simplest explanation?
 

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And I can throw those right back at you, saying that they're just place holders for questions we don't have and probably will never get concrete answers to.

We're so young as a species, and we understand so little, yet we draw conclusions that are billions of light years out of our league with shyt for proof. Think about how little we know of our own /existence/species/planet/ etc. I mean there are things on this planet that we have physical access to and have studied for years, yet at best we can only approximate certain aspects of them, and at worst we make educated guesses. We have yet to develop technology that would allow us to venture beyond certain depths of the earth's own oceans, let alone neighboring planets, let alone outside of our solar system, let alone our galaxy, yet we try to answer questions that have answers that we probably don't even have the brain capacity to process. Our intelligence is bound by the laws and forces that govern us on this planet, but what if those reigns were removed? Do our brains have the capacity to process shyt beyond them, and even if they do, how far beyond them can we go?

Think about the life of other intelligent species on planets that are hundreds of millions of times larger than earth. All things equal, think about how intelligent they'd have to be to overcome something as simple are navigating their planet. The opposite is also true, where there could be species that are not as intelligent as us who probably live on our equivalent of a continent surrounded by water, scared to venture beyond the horizon in fear that they may "fall off" the "planet" :mjpls:

Wow...just...wow :ohhh: This right here....:wow:
 

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I don't think there is a simple explanation. But the current scientific model makes more sense than saying a god created it.

god created the big bang breh,

makes a lot more sense than the big bang coming from nothing
 
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Would any one of you experts on the subject of how stars, planets, space and the universe equals there's no God care to explain the "big bang theory" and how NOTHING just magically boomed into SOMETHING 500 billion years ago?:ohhh:

While the big bang (and the theory that attempts to capture what may have happened) don't require a god, it shouldn't be mistaken for a complete rebuttal for gods.

So what does the big bang theory indicate? Simply put, that a singularity expanded bringing space and time (well, space may have expanded before planck time, but we won't go into it...not unless you really want things to get murkier). A singularity isn't nothing. However, that doesn't mean it needed a cause, either. Causality isn't always necessary in this crazy universe of ours (see: radioactive decay for one example). The common error seems to be mistaking the statement: "as far as we can tell, that thing occured without a cause - or, nothing caused it to happen"; with: "that thing magically boomed from nothing". Subtle differences: miles apart in meaning.


The phenomenal shyt that goes on in the universe still has the biggest sharpest brains (and computers) like WTF?!:mindblown:

That's no reason to believe in Lord Xenu.


Eintseins theory of relativity turns to a nice warm pile of shyt when used to equate what goes on in the universe outside our atmosphere.

:whoa:

Ha ha! No, not really. No!

Scientists are building a 10 billion dollar machine to analyze PARTICLES in hopes that it would shed some light or explain whatever the fukk all that black shyt is in the background in space because they HAVE NO CLUE

That's quite wrong. They are doing those things BECAUSE they have clues and want to confirm them WITH EVIDENCE. That's science.

My beliefs in God aren't just about the eternal party in paradise when we die, for me it's a lot deeper than that but it sure is fun rubbing it in when the smartest mfer can't explain how something came from nothing / something TURNS TO nothing in regards to our universe.

Non believers...:umad:


Your belief in your personal Jesus is fine, but don't pretend it's a substitue for attempting to understand the machinations of our universe. It would be a damn shame if your belief in a god carries on being the crutch you use to dismiss scientific theories you don't/won't understand, just so you can present a front of "knowledgable" smugness. You know, the one where you turn around and pretend non-believers are mad because of something you clearly don't comprehend.

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I spell this: "101", like so: "One hundred and one". :youngsabo:
 

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Occam's razor doesn't apply in this case since the simplest explanation isn't that 'god' created the universe.



Could any planetary body with some form of liquid water be an option for life.

We could include Jupitor's moon Europa, Saturn's moon Enceladus and the dwarf planet Ceres.

Not necessarily. Methane for example is not water. The other world,moon, whatever should be similar to Earth in some regards. That is why you usually hear the phase "life as we know it" because we are looking for life that we recognize in an environment that we recognize. So that is why Titan is a big maybe. Triton which is probably our best bet has heat. IDK everything that scientist are looking for but water, heat, protective atmosphere and "nutrients" are the main things that they look for. Take Mars for example. There are ice caps on Mars but the environment isn't life friend; little to no atmosphere, cold, etc. But I will look into the moons you mentioned.
 

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While the big bang (and the theory that attempts to capture what may have happened) don't require a god, it shouldn't be mistaken for a complete rebuttal for gods.

So what does the big bang theory indicate? Simply put, that a singularity expanded bringing space and time (well, space may have expanded before planck time, but we won't go into it...not unless you really want things to get murkier). A singularity isn't nothing. However, that doesn't mean it needed a cause, either. Causality isn't always necessary in this crazy universe of ours (see: radioactive decay for one example). The common error seems to be mistaking the statement: "as far as we can tell, that thing occured without a cause - or, nothing caused it to happen"; with: "that thing magically boomed from nothing". Subtle differences: miles apart in meaning.




That's no reason to believe in Lord Xenu.




:whoa:

Ha ha! No, not really. No!



That's quite wrong. They are doing those things BECAUSE they have clues and want to confirm them WITH EVIDENCE. That's science.




Your belief in your personal Jesus is fine, but don't pretend it's a substitue for attempting to understand the machinations of our universe. It would be a damn shame if your belief in a god carries on being the crutch you use to dismiss scientific theories you don't/won't understand, just so you can present a front of "knowledgable" smugness. You know, the one where you turn around and pretend non-believers are mad because of something you clearly don't comprehend.



I spell this: "101", like so: "One hundred and one". :youngsabo:
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Would any one of you experts on the subject of how stars, planets, space and the universe equals there's no God care to explain the "big bang theory" and how NOTHING just magically boomed into SOMETHING 500 billion years ago?:ohhh:

The big bang theory doesn't state that everything came from nothing. The big bang theory says that everything we know in the universe came from a singularity, and that we have no clue what came before that singularity. We don't know what came before the big bang or what caused. The closest we've come to understanding it is the Higgs Boson, and that doesn't even tell us what caused it, just what particles were there right after it happened.

God did it is doesn't explain anything. It's an excuse used by people who can't explain the unknown so they assign it to a deity.
 

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Theoretical physics is a joke at this point and so is religion. The "truth" will never be found because it wasn't meant to be. Go live your lives cause ain't no damn advanced society coming to rescue/destroy humans. shyt is just the scientific version of the God delusion, same pathology.
 
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