nah not for me
I consider Jadakiss to be one of the 10 greatest rappers ever. Do you?
- Thread starter Ohene
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that myth that jada's albums are wack need to stop
Cool, but then I'd also assume you have him over...
Chuck D
AZ
Ghostface
Common
Guru
Raekwon
Big Pun
Slick Rick
Prodigy
And people like that, which is of course your prerogative, but personally wouldn't agree with all those. I fukk with Jadakiss though, he's dope.
He doesn't have wack albums, just that they not as good as people thought they should've been. Jada like Method Man. They got the talent to release some serious fvcking albums but it never happened.
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i'm a 90s baby though
gimme kiss over krs too and insert prodigy and its a good top 10
i'm a 90s baby though
yea man, dude has it all . dunno how it never translated into a classic album. I used to hear dude's punchlines, go
, rewind them on some 
shyt. nikkas used to go to the mall screaming G-unit and Dblock during those mid 00s wars 
-Game?
his best album was written by somebody else . I'd have AZ, Cormega or Big Pun over him.-Rakim and LL? i dont know i've never gone back and listen to their old shyt.shyt i think the only reason ppl keep mentioning old heads is because of nostalgia
- E-40?
nah... -No outkast?
-Snoop? if you want to put him up there because of his flow and longevity then i can understand. But in truth i dont think he deserves to be in the top 12
DMX's prime was way too short.
N!ggas need to get all the way the fvck outta here dissing old heads like Kane, KRS, Rakim, LL and em. Those n!ggas is before my time but show some respect for their achievements and the mark they left on the game. Them same n!ggas ya'll bigging up and throwing in the Top 10 over them, is a hop, skip and a jump away from being considered old as sh!t and played out by the next generation. 5 years from now some idiot gonna be posting "-Jada and Fabolous? i dont know i've never gone back and listen to their old shyt.shyt i think the only reason ppl keep mentioning old heads is because of nostalgia ". Watch. Dudes out here now consider G-Unit and D-Block old school. And yea, that was a shot at you @gho3st .
". Watch. Dudes out here now consider G-Unit and D-Block old school. And yea, that was a shot at you @gho3st .Cool, can't really be mad about people's preferences. The KRS-One 1 though, for me personally Kris is significantly better than Jadakiss, in nearly every way. Particularly body of work.
yea man, dude has it all . dunno how it never translated into a classic album. I used to hear dude's punchlines, go
-Game?
-Rakim and LL? i dont know i've never gone back and listen to their old shyt.shyt i think the only reason ppl keep mentioning old heads is because of nostalgia
- E-40?
-No outkast?
-Snoop? if you want to put him up there because of his flow and longevity then i can understand. But in truth i dont think he deserves to be in the top 12
DMX's prime was way too short.
You wouldn't know if you haven't gone back to listen, would make sense to do that as they are both legends and big artists. Rakim in particular, it's certainly not nostalgia, he made incredible songs/music, I listen to Rakim regularly to this day, even his shyt from the 80's. Ra was before my time too but I can appreciate the greatness hearing it back. Rakim was just amazing, his lyrics from the 80's are better than every mainstream rapper today in my opinion, excluding Nas and even that's arguable.
i would agree...his body of work is better and hes more legendary no doubt more impact and all that. But the music is too advanced now than it was then. I aint listening to KRS one in 2014 except for certain songs. Flow is dated and robotic, beats are dusty etc. Rakim too.
Jadakiss is equal to or more skilled than any rapper from before 92. Only ones close are Kool G Rap and MAYBE Treach. That's including Ice Cube even to me.
so you've taken everything i've said and reduce it to shytting on old heads. if that ever happens.....saying they are old school and putting their work among the best is two different things wouldn't you say? And nobody in their right mind would put Fabulous in the top 10. You should have picked better examples. As far as Jada, I said that he has it all except a couple of classic(or near classic) albums to put him there.
And if you do keep putting those old heads in the top 10 regardless of a 20-30years gap, you would be admitting that rap/hip hop hasn't evolved
Like i said in my reply to @Billy Ocean, rap has evolved. If you ignore that, then it's nostalgia talking.
I don't agree with that at all. KRS-One's 90's work is even much better than anything Kiss has done to me, and this is said being a Kiss fan, Return Of The Boom Bap, KRS-One and even later 2000's shyt like Kristyles to me is better. In terms of Rakim, would put Rakim's Seventh Seal album over any Jadakiss project which is around 4.5 mics to me, not including his past classic work. But it's gonna come down to personal opinions so all can do is say have different taste, but I bump KRS and Rakim a lot more than Kiss. Also when it comes several other aspects I think objectively they well ahead of Kiss that is less opinion based.
Also disagree with the skill thing, I think there's been MASSES of MC's after 92 that have had a lot more skill than Jadakiss, don't get me wrong Jadakiss is dope. But there's been so many great MC's after that who have exhibited much more skill on the mic.
so you've taken everything i've said and reduce it to shytting on old heads. if that ever happens.....saying they are old school and putting their work among the best is two different things wouldn't you say? And nobody in their right mind would put Fabulous in the top 10. You should have picked better examples. As far as Jada, I said that he has it all except a couple of classic(or near classic) albums to put him there.
And if you do keep putting those old heads in the top 10 regardless of a 20-30years gap, you would be admitting that rap/hip hop hasn't evolved
Like i said in my reply to @Billy Ocean, rap has evolved. If you ignore that, then it's nostalgia talking.
It's evolved when? It's arguably gone backwards, lyrically the biggest rappers from the 80's are destroying the biggest rappers from today, same with the 90's.
"There's a misconception that a movement in any direction is progression"
It's just opinions, an opinion I personally disagree with strongly.