I didn't know Ziggler was LOSING like this

[R=G]

She had no effect? This guy was a bytch. A goofball...A jobber...AJ was maineventing Raw from that summer until Ziggler started losing to Cena all the time. She was the mouthpiece...had her theme playing. He didn't stand a chance at TLC until she said so. Who the fukk was Ziggler before AJ? Vickie's bytch...that was it. A str8 up loser.

His push came from being with AJ...After it ended. He disappeared off television...her not winning awards is getting massive boos while he's losing to a jobber on a Weds show.

 

[ML29]

She had no effect? This guy was a bytch. A goofball...A jobber...AJ was maineventing Raw from that summer until Ziggler started losing to Cena all the time. She was the mouthpiece...had her theme playing. He didn't stand a chance at TLC until she said so. Who the fukk was Ziggler before AJ? Vickie's bytch...that was it. A str8 up loser.

His push came from being with AJ...After it ended. He disappeared off television...her not winning awards is getting massive boos while he's losing to a jobber on a Weds show.

sure friend AJ Fanatics are nothing if not hilariously delusional. And He was A Bytch, A Goofball, and A Jobber all through 7-8 Months he was with her too. He really needed her to do what exactly? Job to Cena, to job to Sheamus, to struggle to beat Miz and Kofi, Job to Del Rio? To Eat the pin from Bryan to protect Big E in his debut match at Wrestlemania? You brag about her being the mouthpiece and them playing her theme, yet you can't realize that made them look goofy as fukk. Big E debuts and lays out Cena at the slammy's looked like a boss instead of ending the show there they play her goofy poppy music and the group instantly come off like goofs. The spotlight should've been on Ziggler because it was his time, lord knows they dedicated pretty much all of 2012 to AJ. You only see her being the main focus of the group as a positive because you dislike Ziggler, if they did that to a Heel Daniel Bryan you would be shytting on that left and right.

The one thing that was keeping him relevant was the anticipation fans had for him cashing in the MITB, nothing else. Even after their breakup dude was still over. People didn't lose faith until the late fall when it clear he stuck midcard purgatory.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

I see we ignoring the "We want Ziggler" chants again in favor of overrating AJ Lee yet again?

 

[ML29]

I see we ignoring the "We want Ziggler" chants again in favor of overrating AJ Lee yet again?

Exactly they weren't chanting "can AJ come and skip" while del rio and swagger were in the ring at WM29.

 

[Ohnoits]

Exactly they weren't chanting "can AJ come and skip" while del rio and swagger were in the ring at WM29.

 

[R=G]

sure friend AJ Fanatics are nothing if not hilariously delusional. And He was A Bytch, A Goofball, and A Jobber all through 7-8 Months he was with her too.

Yeah but she got her belt and kept on mattering. He got the belt, got injured, got punked by Del Rio several times, and she never lost her status. He would come out to shaky pops from time to time..she ETHERED the whole damn Diva's division to get her 2012 reactions right back on par this year like it was nothing and basically became a fan favorite heel like Mickie was in 2006 when she was beating everyone every single week without any competition.

He really needed her to do what exactly? Job to Cena, to job to Sheamus, to struggle to beat Miz and Kofi, Job to Del Rio? To Eat the pin from Bryan to protect Big E in his debut match at Wrestlemania?

Not sure what he "needed her for" because he damn sure wasn't doing jack shyt on his own before he got with Vickie or AJ. He was a nothing. He was losing to Mysterio for years before that stuff started..going back to 2009. He's always this little canned "he has alot of potential". Nyggas on here got cocky when they let him talk to AJ in that locker room promo like he ran the show and that shyt didn't move the needle. He was still a jobber champion and a loser. And his matches were getting overrated and praised too. He was selling like an idiot and had a WACK ass finisher. AJ stole the spotlight from Bryan and Punk last summer..you trying to compare Ziggler to her? LOL!

You brag about her being the mouthpiece and them playing her theme, yet you can't realize that made them look goofy as fukk.

Whatever it was doing, it was working because AJ was getting heat like a motherfukker. He looked goofy but he always has. AJ was in main event segments for months at that point. Where was the goofiness cries then? You and others want Ziggler to be more than he is. That's impossible. He has a loser mentality and settles. I'm not surprised to see him where he's at. If he couldn't get over in 2009 with Mysterio, he wasn't gonna work. If he couldn't get over with Bryan in all of those matches in 2010, he wasn't gonna work. Even got a fantastic cash in with the European fans buying into his charade and that still faded out because he allowed him to get pushed down to Main Event. LOL.

Big E debuts and lays out Cena at the slammy's looked like a boss instead of ending the show there they play her goofy poppy music and the group instantly come off like goofs. The spotlight should've been on Ziggler because it was his time, lord knows they dedicated pretty much all of 2012 to AJ. You only see her being the main focus of the group as a positive because you dislike Ziggler, if they did that to a Heel Daniel Bryan you would be shytting on that left and right.

Big E got alot of non reactions too. Fans acted like he didn't exist for a minute. How the fukk is the spotlight supposed to be on Ziggler when he can't talk for shyt? He's a Mr. Perfect wannabe..not actually Mr. Perfect. Get Real. Dude is GRADE A garbage on the mic. AJ was getting increases on her segments. Ziggler wasn't. He's a chump.

And you can't put the spotlight on AJ with a heel Bryan because he talks a certain way and sounds like the bo$$...we saw that week after week when his great mic work is what turned her into a psycho heel to begin with. He got her over big....why Ziggler couldn't take advantage of that? No one can explain it to me till this day. I see stupid excuses and wild rationalizations without any decent comprehensive truths to them.

The one thing that was keeping him relevant was the anticipation fans had for him cashing in the MITB, nothing else. Even after their breakup dude was still over. People didn't lose faith until the late fall when it clear he stuck midcard purgatory.

He was still over but he had no money promos to his name and was only gonna be Kofi level as long as that stayed the same. AJ had already knocked promos out the gate...she had the fans cheering for her over Bryan and Punk. It's night and day. Her workrate>>>Ziggler. Guy is lazy and settles. Horrible.
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[R=G]

I see we ignoring the "We want Ziggler" chants again in favor of overrating AJ Lee yet again?

How did that We Want Ziggler shyt do for the ratings? Where was that crowd support on Monday at the Slammys? Nowhere to be found. AJ didn't win the Award for Diva of the Year and the crowd booed like it was 1999 Attitude Era.

 

[ML29]

Yeah but she got her belt and kept on mattering. He got the belt, got injured, got punked by Del Rio several times, and she never lost her status. He would come out to shaky pops from time to time..she ETHERED the whole damn Diva's division to get her 2012 reactions right back on par this year like it was nothing and basically became a fan favorite heel like Mickie was in 2006 when she was beating everyone every single week without any competition.



Not sure what he "needed her for" because he damn sure wasn't doing jack shyt on his own before he got with Vickie or AJ. He was a nothing. He was losing to Mysterio for years before that stuff started..going back to 2009. He's always this little canned "he has alot of potential". Nyggas on here got cocky when they let him talk to AJ in that locker room promo like he ran the show and that shyt didn't move the needle. He was still a jobber champion and a loser. And his matches were getting overrated and praised too. He was selling like an idiot and had a WACK ass finisher. AJ stole the spotlight from Bryan and Punk last summer..you trying to compare Ziggler to her? LOL!


Whatever it was doing, it was working because AJ was getting heat like a motherfukker. He looked goofy but he always has. AJ was in main event segments for months at that point. Where was the goofiness cries then? You and others want Ziggler to be more than he is. That's impossible. He has a loser mentality and settles. I'm not surprised to see him where he's at. If he couldn't get over in 2009 with Mysterio, he wasn't gonna work. If he couldn't get over with Bryan in all of those matches in 2010, he wasn't gonna work. Even got a fantastic cash in with the European fans buying into his charade and that still faded out because he allowed him to get pushed down to Main Event. LOL.




Big E got alot of non reactions too. Fans acted like he didn't exist for a minute. How the fukk is the spotlight supposed to be on Ziggler when he can't talk for shyt? He's a Mr. Perfect wannabe..not actually Mr. Perfect. Get Real. Dude is GRADE A garbage on the mic. AJ was getting increases on her segments. Ziggler wasn't. He's a chump.

And you can't put the spotlight on AJ with a heel Bryan because he talks a certain way and sounds like the bo$$...we saw that week after week when his great mic work is what turned her into a psycho heel to begin with. He got her over big....why Ziggler couldn't take advantage of that? No one can explain it to me till this day. I see stupid excuses and wild rationalizations without any decent comprehensive truths to them.



He was still over but he had no money promos to his name and was only gonna be Kofi level as long as that stayed the same. AJ had already knocked promos out the gate...she had the fans cheering for her over Bryan and Punk. It's night and day. Her workrate>>>Ziggler. Guy is lazy and settles. Horrible.
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this 100 word essay is cute in all but has nothing to do with the point. Which is that the key to the failures and success' of Dolph ziggler are due to Dolph Ziggler.

And please with all the AJ ass kissing take that shyt to the AJ Thread

 

[ExodusNirvana]

How did that We Want Ziggler shyt do for the ratings? Where was that crowd support on Monday at the Slammys? Nowhere to be found. AJ didn't win the Award for Diva of the Year and the crowd booed like it was 1999 Attitude Era.

Breh fukk the ratings...word to Daniel Bryan

And the same smarks who was chanting "We want Ziggler" know exactly why he's in the doghouse now so yeah...bad example.

 

[R=G]

Shows what he is though. If hee had any manhood, he wouldn't let this shyt ride. Let them job him out without doing something. It's like he doesn't know his worth. He's an idiot. It's sad...for his fans.

 

[R=G]

this 100 word essay is cute in all but has nothing to do with the point. Which is that the key to the failures and success' of Dolph ziggler are due to Dolph Ziggler.

And please with all the AJ ass kissing take that shyt to the AJ Thread

You wanted explanations. I gave it to you. Then you whine about it. Troll shyt. Now...you want to defend that idiot. Do it. He ain't never be shyt. Period. A goddamn AJ Appreciation thread from self imposed "freaks" get more play than Ziggler at this forum. Guy is NOTHING.

And there is no ass kissing, boy. She is a key feature of Raw. Where the fukk IS Ziggler if he never needed her? Main event. lol

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Shows what he is though. If hee had any manhood, he wouldn't let this shyt ride. Let them job him out without doing something. It's like he doesn't know his worth. He's an idiot. It's sad...for his fans.

WTF dog that's why he's in the doghouse right NOW

For voicing his opinion when he should just be playing his position

 

[R=G]

He should leave if he thinks he's worth that much. Being quiet and losing to the point of having NO VALUE in the industry makes no sense. It's insane. It's like a field nygga. It's horrible.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Of all the wrestlers in the WWE right now who can't get consistent pushes, Ziggler is probably the one I have the least sympathy for (except maybe Miz).

That said, I think his current burial is a perfect example of how badly they bungled this whole Authority angle. They had him lose two 3-on-1 squash matches against The Shield for speaking out, and... that was it. Why wasn't that a bigger storyline? They could have had him constantly get booked in matches they know he can't win (kayfabe) as punishment for running his mouth, until he finally shut up or won.

 

[ML29]

You wanted explanations. I gave it to you. Then you whine about it. Troll shyt. Now...you want to defend that idiot. Do it. He ain't never be shyt. Period. A goddamn AJ Appreciation thread from self imposed "freaks" get more play than Ziggler at this forum. Guy is NOTHING.

And there is no ass kissing, boy. She is a key feature of Raw. Where the fukk IS Ziggler if he never needed her? Main event. lol

no one needed you of all people to explain shyt. Which you didn't even do, you just posted a bunch bias fanboy babbling putting AJ on this magical pedestal. No one is defending him I clearly said that Ziggler's current situation is mostly HIS fault, you took it as a chance heap praise on your little obsession. The pairing didn't much for either person, the only one who came up was Langston cuz he simply got out of NXT. Ziggler stayed neutral and it was a step down for AJ until the Kaitlyn feud kicked off.

Fact during their time on tv together he was consistently losing. Fact 2 they've been broken up for months he's still being treated the same, while the other members of his group are getting good pushes. The only time he we was in the main event was against John Cena late 2012/early 2013. The way he's presented by the company is an issue that revolves around him and how the higher ups see him. So all your AJ Lee dikk riding is fukking irrelevant to the topic.