I didn’t realize Doja Cat had that many hits

[O.T.I.S.]

More talented overall than Nicki? Sure

But def not Lauryn as an artist

Agree to disagree

When did I say she was Lauryn

I said she was more talented than Nicki. No female is more talented than Lauryn

And yes, after checking, She does have producer credits on her albums. Dr. luke didn’t pop up until the last album. I actually wrote the paper on Yeti who has been one of her producers since the beginning. HE was the one who was talking about her input in her music and his job being to accommodate her

And she has producer credits on ALL her albums

 

[Greenhornet]

thecoli.com said she was a c00n so I never bothered exploring her music

yeah my bad I didnt mean it personally

just the fact that she's been killing it ... she's one of those industry people who are "chosen" but can actually have fun and adapt to whatever they throw at her

once they gave her like 2nd or 3rd hit and she was coasting and having fun... It was already a wrap at that point
you can tell she's having fun and not overthinking

 

[Uchiha God]

I'll say though out of this generation of female rappers - she seems to have the best ear for beats

 

[Solo_87]

When did I say she was Lauryn

I said she was more talented than Nicki. No female is more talented than Lauryn

And yes, after checking, She does have producer credits on her albums. Dr. luke didn’t pop up until the last album. I actually wrote the paper on Yeti who has been one of her producers since the beginning. HE was the one who was talking about her input in her music and his job being to accommodate her

And she has producer credits on ALL her albums

Huh?

I was having a discussion with bru who was arguing Doja the most musically talented female rapper ever. I said it was Lauryn he disgreed

You inserted urself into our discussion

And Dr Luke is accredited on her last two albums and produced her biggest hit Say So. Before that Doja wasn't taken seriously and mainly known for Moo

 

[FluffyEyes]

what are some examples of good nicki raps

Some of her more well known and celebrated verses

 

[Metal Face]

her voice trash

 

[Patrick Kane]

Mother is coming. I’m shaking.

She coming for Nikki throat

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Huh?

I was having a discussion with bru who was arguing Doja the most musically talented female rapper ever. I said it was Lauryn he disgreed

You inserted urself into our discussion

And Dr Luke is accredited on her last two albums and produced her biggest hit Say So. Before that Doja wasn't taken seriously and mainly known for Moo

No, I inserted myself in the conversation because you said her production makes her, in which I specifically said it didn’t.

And I didn’t see his name in any of the track listings except for that very last album, not the one coming up.

And Say So is not her biggest hit, it’s Kiss Me More produced by Yeti and that was specifically one of the songs he was talking about her input in it. It originally sounded totally different.

Edit: Say So reached 1 and Kiss me more did number 2… But it varies online it seems between billboard, spotify, etc. so i guess that means she didn’t have any hand in her production though

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

I HATE THIS BISH WITH A PASSION... I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY.

 

[SheWantTheD]

fukk this bytch

 

[FluffyEyes]

I think I’ve seen her do it somewhere just forgot where

She’s not an engineer or nothing, but to think she has no hand in the music she makes is


She’s not Beyonce or some singer that just comes in and lays vocals and bounce.

Uh let’s exclude Beyoncé “Has writing credits dating back to Destiny’s Child days“ Knowles out of this. Not only that she arranges and vocal produces a good chunk of her shyt.

Takes like this and throughout this thread just show me that men generally aren’t REALLY listening or tapped into the discographies of a lot these women and that’s cool but the opinions are very uniformed. Like almost across the board.

 

[Vandelay]

Imma be honest, if I'm listening to the radio the majority of the songs I'm thinking Nicki did, it's actually Doja

On some "Oh shyt, a halfway decent Nicki song " but wifey's like, "naw babe, that's Doja Cat"

this is how I feel

Doja is talented but she is clearly Nicki's son.

And lmao @ Doja being a better lyricist than Nicki

Doja is definitely the most talented of this generation, but she's fruit off of Nicki's tree. Same eccentricity, same back and forth rhyming/singing. Same poppy shyt. Singing is the same, but Nicki has her beat on bars. Nicki held her own with prime Wayne, Drake, Ross, Jay, Em...stop the recency bias y'all...

 

[FluffyEyes]

Doja is definitely the most talented of this generation, but she's fruit off of Nicki's tree. Same eccentricity, same back and forth rhyming/singing. Same poppy shyt. Singing is the same, but Nicki has her beat on bars. Nicki held her own with prime Wayne, Drake, Ross, Jay, Em...stop the recency bias y'all...

PERIOD.

 

[Solo_87]

I think I’ve seen her do it somewhere just forgot where

She’s not an engineer or nothing, but to think she has no hand in the music she makes is


She’s not Beyonce or some singer that just comes in and lays vocals and bounce.

It's funny looking over B's debut and Doja's last album, Bey actually has more production credits

 

[O.T.I.S.]

It's funny looking over B's debut and Doja's last album, Bey actually has more production credits

Good for her I guess

I’m actually sure someone at Beyoncés level should have more influence over her music actually

My main point is, She’s not made by her production she is a part of the production process from what It looks like credited or not. And she does have her own credits.

She’s not getting beat packs and listening to them she’s helping the creative process and telling her engineers how to steer in her direction