"I Didn't Speak to Jay for 2 weeks after Ether" - Dame Dash

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Somebody is diggin out ya ex girl right now and ain't shyt u can do about it..lol..if u have a kid and ain't with the mother..somebody is gonna be diggin her out as well..and Jay never became Nas' boss..Nas is still on Def Jam..Jay is gone..LA Reid signed Nas..Nas signed to Def Jam..not Rocafella records...

Keep it 100 right now and answer this honestly. If jay and Beyoncé broke up today and nas started fukkin Beyoncé, would nas fans/stans roast the shyt out jay for that? Yes or no
 

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That's my point with the Nas's and Tupac's of the world...Their music was 99th percentile...But the back stories are so flawed.....Ether was a Musically better...But he couldn't respond to super ugly...he had no ammo...and he was just bodied by truth.
:stopitslime:Nas responded to super ugly before it even dropped.In the source magazine before stillmatic he broke down the whole Jay,Carmen relationship.Thats why that shyt fell flat.Nikkas already knew about it.
 

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Nas ain't send shots at Jay in IWW..and WTF does that have to do with anything anyway?..who said Nas was innocent?..u arguing wit ya self nikka cause u running out of rebuttals..everything I said was fact..and Jay wanted to have a damn Boxing match..not no rap battle..how hurt do u have to be to want to Box a nikka after a battle?..main thing is..Nas won and carried himself like a winner..Jay lost and carried himself like a loser...all this what ifs..switching timelines n comparing and contrasting make believe shyt don't mean nothing cause it ain't REAL..Jay losing was real..deal wit it..I'm so sick of this dumb ass subject..prolly the most annoying conversation in the history of hip hop at this point..to see people literally try to change what really happened in history is crazy to me..

so, even though nas has said he did send shots at jay on the message, which was on iww, doesnt matter? lol ok....the point was to show that nas wasnt as innocent in the battle as people tried to make him seem...they really acted like jay bullied him and went at him outta no where...i'm not running outta shyt cause i still havent said who i thought won the battle...yall cats are the ones arguing with yallselves trying to prove nas won when i've never once brought up a winner/loser...not once have i said who i thought won the battle...the only thing i did was mention why i thought ether was overrated, and people took that and ran with it....as for the switching of timelines, changing shyt, etc. i aint doing that shyt..cause i dont do that shyt...also, cause again: i havent been trying to prove a winner/loser...as for the boxing match: he did want a rap battle...he wanted both to do 3 songs on ppv and let the people decide...he threw out the boxing match idea after nas said he wasnt interested in the rap battle....and i agree: nas carried himself like the winner, jay like the loser.....that was one of the reason i think ether is overrated, which i said originally...
 

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so, even though nas has said he did send shots at jay on the message, which was on iww, doesnt matter? lol ok....the point was to show that nas wasnt as innocent in the battle as people tried to make him seem...they really acted like jay bullied him and went at him outta no where...i'm not running outta shyt cause i still havent said who i thought won the battle...yall cats are the ones arguing with yallselves trying to prove nas won when i've never once brought up a winner/loser...not once have i said who i thought won the battle...the only thing i did was mention why i thought ether was overrated, and people took that and ran with it....as for the switching of timelines, changing shyt, etc. i aint doing that shyt..cause i dont do that shyt...also, cause again: i havent been trying to prove a winner/loser...as for the boxing match: he did want a rap battle...he wanted both to do 3 songs on ppv and let the people decide...he threw out the boxing match idea after nas said he wasnt interested in the rap battle....and i agree: nas carried himself like the winner, jay like the loser.....that was one of the reason i think ether is overrated, which i said originally...
:what:Why the fukk would Nas send shots at jay on IWW?Jay was a nobody when he was recording the message.
 

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Keep it 100 right now and answer this honestly. If jay and Beyoncé broke up today and nas started fukkin Beyoncé, would nas fans/stans roast the shyt out jay for that? Yes or no
Beyonce is a damn superstar..one of the biggest and richest females in the world...Carmen is just a broke hoodrat..fukkin her ain't no feat bruh...if u had a lil bread she would prolly let u smash..also..it's already rumor that Nas coulda smashed Beyonce before she started fukkin wit Jay..that's some ol gossip girl shyt fam..lol..
 

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:what:Why the fukk would Nas send shots at jay on IWW?Jay was a nobody when he was recording the message.

true, jay wasnt the jay we know now, but he wasnt a nobody...RD dropped the same year as IWW, he had a nice buzz building....as for the reason: it's the same as why known rappers send shots at up and coming rappers now (which jay was): just to flex on them and let them know they are the top dog...
 

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so, even though nas has said he did send shots at jay on the message, which was on iww, doesnt matter? lol ok....the point was to show that nas wasnt as innocent in the battle as people tried to make him seem...they really acted like jay bullied him and went at him outta no where...i'm not running outta shyt cause i still havent said who i thought won the battle...yall cats are the ones arguing with yallselves trying to prove nas won when i've never once brought up a winner/loser...not once have i said who i thought won the battle...the only thing i did was mention why i thought ether was overrated, and people took that and ran with it....as for the switching of timelines, changing shyt, etc. i aint doing that shyt..cause i dont do that shyt...also, cause again: i havent been trying to prove a winner/loser...as for the boxing match: he did want a rap battle...he wanted both to do 3 songs on ppv and let the people decide...he threw out the boxing match idea after nas said he wasnt interested in the rap battle....and i agree: nas carried himself like the winner, jay like the loser.....that was one of the reason i think ether is overrated, which i said originally...
:what:..nikka did u listen to Last Real nikka Alive?..it seems u missed the WHOLE fukkin story..he sent shots at BIGGIE on The Message..NOT Jay..that was the whole damn point of the song..smh..lol
 

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:what:..nikka did u listen to Last Real nikka Alive?..it seems u missed the WHOLE fukkin story..he sent shots at BIGGIE on The Message..NOT Jay..that was the whole damn point of the song..smh..lol

lol i think you need to go relisten to that..hell the title alone is a shot...
 

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true, jay wasnt the jay we know now, but he wasnt a nobody...RD dropped the same year as IWW, he had a nice buzz building....as for the reason: it's the same as why known rappers send shots at up and coming rappers now (which jay was): just to flex on them and let them know they are the top dog...
:snoop: ..son just stop..lol
 

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lol i think you need to go relisten to that..hell the title alone is a shot...
nikka are u serious?..lol...he said he sent shots at Biggie..then Biggie sent shots on Kick In The Door..the whole damn point of Last Real nikka Alive was that he went to war wit a nikka like Biggie..and Jay is not even on Biggies level so it was a piece of cake to murder him...smh..all these years and u had the whole theme of the song fukked up..lol
 

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:snoop: ..son just stop..lol

RD didnt come out the same year?...jay didnt have a buzz and people talking about him?...known rappers dont take shots at the up and coming rappers with buzz?...
 

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nikka are u serious?..lol...he said he sent shots at Biggie..then Biggie sent shots on Kick In The Door..the whole damn point of Last Real nikka Alive was that he went to war wit a nikka like Biggie..and Jay is not even on Biggies level so it was a piece of cake to murder him...smh..all these years and u had the whole theme of the song fukked up..lol

yea, you really need to go relisten to the song...the whole song is about how he doesnt consider jay a real nikka, jay was never on his level, and how he thought jay tried to be like him...
 

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yea, you really need to go relisten to the song...
Son..it's over..ur wrong..smh..lol..Jay even recruited Nas for Reasonable Doubt..RD and IWW dropped within days of eachother...they wasn't beefin yet nikka..smh..whole point of Last Real nikka Alive is to say Jay was a nobody...it's basically an extension of Nas' Hot 97 interview saying the same shyt..u missed the whole point of the song..give up g..lol
 

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Son..it's over..ur wrong..smh..lol

just posted it for you...listen to the song...he even says in the first 3 sentences how he was gonna break down the whole jay shyt...

edit: just in case you still wanna be stubborn and not listen cause you dont wanna be proven wrong, i'll post the first 3 lines from the song:

'yall dont know about my biggie wars?
who you thought 'kick in the door' was for?, but that's my heart
yall still trippin off the jigga shyt?
real nikka listen up, and i'm tell you how the whole thing start'

then he goes on to talk about jay...
 
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