Rap has been the exact same for 30 yearsThis is why Hip Hop is in the state it is
Crab in a bucket Babble
"I Don't Listen To Music To Learn...If I Want To Learn Ill Read A Book.....I Don't Give A DAMN About Lyrics"
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Ty Daniels
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Historically Music amongst Black Folks has NEVER ONLY BEEN "ENTERTAINMENT"!
A piece of the "Soul" of our people and in our music is removed, when "Entertainment" is the only focus, SMH!
I don’t care what it was historically. That was because there was no other outlet open to black people. Same with Jamaica and reggae.
You only feel this way because of your emotional connection to it.
It was a lack of resources, not because it was recreational.
It was never going to truly meant to institute “revolution” or change. The music industry was like any other industry, it just so happened that white people didn’t mind paying for black music.
You realize this more when you listen to more podcasts for entertainment and your music consumption fades and you accept theres other ways to consume messages. Ive learned more passively listening to podcasts in the last decade than I have from repetitive half-baked ideas from musicians who I am better educated than about certain topics.
What is a musician making generic appeals to corrupt systems or being anti-vaccine or skeptical of science or perpetuating conservative social politics going to for me? I’m better off listening to debates, lectures, and long form convos at that point.
OneDeep
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No it hasn’t
Within the past 10 years it’s been the same beats flows & content
Every region used to unique
But everybody had one thing in common along with the beats, everybody had to be nice on the mic
The content took a nose dive in the last 30 years
People who say that, are the biggest crabs in a barrel in general of you really analyze that.
The superficial ENTERTAINMENT value dominated every aspect of our culture for the past 33 years, they control the trends, the clothing styles that many cannot afford, affect gender relations in the black community,
BUT
God forbid if only ONE authentic black artist with a consciousness decides to go against the grain, like an early Kanye West, and makes soul music with knowledge and authenticity about the average 9-5 black folks and the struggles of living in a self centered superficial environment, then those same superficial ENTERTAINMENT dudes that have everything catered to them like a rich spoiled child, will go out their way and shut them down before those socially conscious artists could start building their own fanbase. Sickening how fragile the egos are for many people that have everything going for them.
The superficial ENTERTAINMENT value dominated every aspect of our culture for the past 33 years, they control the trends, the clothing styles that many cannot afford, affect gender relations in the black community,
BUT
God forbid if only ONE authentic black artist with a consciousness decides to go against the grain, like an early Kanye West, and makes soul music with knowledge and authenticity about the average 9-5 black folks and the struggles of living in a self centered superficial environment, then those same superficial ENTERTAINMENT dudes that have everything catered to them like a rich spoiled child, will go out their way and shut them down before those socially conscious artists could start building their own fanbase. Sickening how fragile the egos are for many people that have everything going for them.
Ty Daniels
Superstar
This is some DUMB SHYT!
Black Folks and Music goes BACK THOUSANDS OF YEARS, and its cultural purpose and significance existed THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE SLAVERY.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??????????????
Iceson Beckford
Rich In Spirit.
As a Gen Z…
Anti intellect is way too accepted from our gen downwards. Trolling oldheads has actually turned people stupid
Everything is just fun. Nothing is serious to the consumer these days.
I’ll never forget Joe Budden getting mad at Yachty for not knowing basic business and everyone was calling Budden a hater.
Anti intellect is way too accepted from our gen downwards. Trolling oldheads has actually turned people stupid
Everything is just fun. Nothing is serious to the consumer these days.
I’ll never forget Joe Budden getting mad at Yachty for not knowing basic business and everyone was calling Budden a hater.
La rap doesn’t sound like Detroit rap. New York rap doesn’t sound like Atlanta rap
Wtf you talking about
I don’t listen to hip hop to learn either. I listen to hip hop and all other music simply because I enjoy music. Sometimes you learn shyt. Good music invokes emotions. Wether it makes you feel happy, energetic, sad, angry, hype, calm, etc…
You nikkas stay on this holier than thou shyt when it comes to rap. It’s disingenuous and a lot of you nikkas just flat out lame as fukk. Like some real dweebs. Like yall don’t even know about Killa Mike rapping about robbing nikkas for cocaine and shyt. nikkas think they so morally whole cause they got old and wanna denounce hip hop.
You nikkas stay on this holier than thou shyt when it comes to rap. It’s disingenuous and a lot of you nikkas just flat out lame as fukk. Like some real dweebs. Like yall don’t even know about Killa Mike rapping about robbing nikkas for cocaine and shyt. nikkas think they so morally whole cause they got old and wanna denounce hip hop.
The Fade
I don’t argue with niqqas on the Internet anymore
The problem is the anti intellectualism and anti craftsmanship is taking too much space. Music doesn’t have to be too poindexter but you have to admit alot of these artists are slow idiots. You shouldn’t brag about being ignorant. I don’t respect ignorance, buffoonery and people who make a fool of themselves/slow nikkas. Make a good product with depth and quality.
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No problem with him being vibes over substance but he lost me when he said they could be saying anything. Some things said are just unappealing.
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You fake ass online militant nikkas kill me 
Not every hip hop artist from the 80s and 90s was lyrical miracle raps
The same nikkas , especially op clown ass
Was throwing bows and ready to max a nikka out in the club when crunk came on
Was A town stomping
Getting jiggly with it
Bankhead bouncing
And all kinds of other shyt in our youth
Hell I’m a old nikka and Killa Mike is by far one of the most subpar nikkas ever to pick up a microphone
Straight snooze music
This is the only place I’ve seen any so called fan of his music or Run the Jewlez
This the same forum that says Donnell Rawlings is funny
nikkas clown with this fake ass superiority complex
And acting like every artist we grew up on was some poetic intellectuals on the mic
That didn’t stop you geek ass nikkas from grinding on bytches when Luke came on
But who are we kidding
You nikkas was
As kids and now as adults
Not every hip hop artist from the 80s and 90s was lyrical miracle raps
The same nikkas , especially op clown ass
Was throwing bows and ready to max a nikka out in the club when crunk came on
Was A town stomping
Getting jiggly with it
Bankhead bouncing
And all kinds of other shyt in our youth
Hell I’m a old nikka and Killa Mike is by far one of the most subpar nikkas ever to pick up a microphone
Straight snooze music
This is the only place I’ve seen any so called fan of his music or Run the Jewlez
This the same forum that says Donnell Rawlings is funny
nikkas clown with this fake ass superiority complex
And acting like every artist we grew up on was some poetic intellectuals on the mic
That didn’t stop you geek ass nikkas from grinding on bytches when Luke came on
But who are we kidding
You nikkas was
As kids and now as adults
OneDeep
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Every rapper that comes out sounds like they from Atlanta
I could go on Apple Music & click on a hip hop playlist and I wouldn’t be able to tell who’s from where because everybody sounds like they from the south
There’s just a few stand outs
MLK one spoke out against consecious stupidity being the downfall of black society.
Now we give people like Gucci Mane and Boosie higher props than Rakim or Nas. Those same one-Dimensional greedy rappers with their ABC rhymes that scream "stop hating, we getting money" are the SAME EXACT ONES that go out their way to stop a well-rounded rapper from blowing up. Crabs in a barrel hypocrisy.