I don't see how any QB with NFL aspirations would want to play for Urban Meyer

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Watching college football lately 90% of these teams are running some gimmick offense that wouldnt work at all in the league. You cant really single out Urban he's just doing what works in college thats his job. Basically every team is running the read option or the spread, teams ending up with 0 passing yards and others ending up with 700+. No wonder all these new QB's are trash when they hit the NFL .

The wildcat is/was a "gimmick offense"

The Spread/Air Raid and all of their variants is something that's existed in the college game for the last 3 decades.

These schools are running these offenses, because it gives them a better chance at winning, without having elite talent on offense....or to take advantage of their elite talent.

 

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yea...

A lot of the best current QBs such as Rivers, Manning, Roethlisberger, Romo, Flacco, Rodgers came from lesser schools it seems. Schools that may've been decent but didnt have the pedigree of a Bama or USC.

I cant remember the last time a first rounder from a top 10 or national champ winning program came in and had an absolutely amazing career. Hopefully it'll be Winston next.

Trying to sneak Manning into this.... like his daddy and Brother aren't who they are

Flacco as one of the best QB's also?

You can't remember a first rounder who came from a top 10 or NC program who came and had an amazing career?

-Andrew Luck currently, Stanford was ranked #4,#7 while he was there
-Aaron Rodgers came from a Cal Program that was ranked #9 in the nation.

 

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Easily the GOAT evf thread

 

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He wanted Cam Newton to convert into a Tight End.

A solid move.

 

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Rich Rodriguez is a classic example of this. Shaun King was his QB at Tulane and he basically had a Super Bowl team and they traded for Keyshawn Johnson but because he wasn't taught well in college, he never fully developed. Then he brought that shyt to Clemson and what happened to Woodrow Dantzler when he went pro.. he got converted to running back and was returning kicks. After fine tuning it, he brought the spread/read option to West Virginia... We all know what happened to Pat White when he tried to play an NFL quarterback..

Then he goes to Michigan and sets them back 4 or 5 years. Lloyd Carr leaves him with a potential first round pro prospect in Ryan Mallet and what does he did? He forces him to transfer because he is a legit NFL QB prospect who was cut from the proper cloth. He then proceeds to have a running back (Denard Robinson) and WR (Devin Gardner) play quarterback

Which ties in to the thread I made about quarterbacks playing out of position. Coaches don't give a shyt about passing. Braxton Miller should've never been playing Quarterback in the first place if coaches weren't going to school him properly. If Miller wanted to play QB in the NFL he would've choose a better school where he could actually be taught properly instead of getting hurt running this bullshyt.



Now he's playing WR...

 

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He's also built like a defensive end, so what's your point?

I don't like what urban is doing with Cardale. He has earned the right to start the whole season and he needs reps to be more consistent.

Today Cardale played a lot better but made some crucial mistakes by under throwing his receivers. That can be fixed by getting more reps and getting a feel for his receivers. He's also working with a new oc who's doing a terrible job. Urban needs to step in and take over.

My point was that it wasn't a reach to ask him to move to tight end. I don't care about OSU problems they can you can go fukk themselves

 

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Why should urban care about developing qbs for the nfl?

Think about that

 

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Why should urban care about developing qbs for the nfl?

Think about that

Attract 5 star talent at quarterback who can actually play the position without being spoon fed. Quarterbacks with actual skills that translate to the pros. That way he doesn't have to fake health issues once he runs out of bootleg talent like when Tebow left.

 

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My point was that it wasn't a reach to ask him to move to tight end.

it was a reach because urbans offense is predicated on qb's being athletic and utilizing the read option. how the fukk u ask someone like cam to move to tight end and make a pro style oriented player like brantley take after tebow?

 

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Attract 5 star talent at quarterback who can actually play the position without being spoon fed. Quarterbacks with actual skills that translate to the pros. That way he doesn't have to fake health issues once he runs out of bootleg talent like when Tebow left.

And why should he care again? Until the nfl starts sending him checks he won't give a fuk like the rest of the college coaches who gotta win now.

 

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Attract 5 star talent at quarterback who can actually play the position without being spoon fed. Quarterbacks with actual skills that translate to the pros. That way he doesn't have to fake health issues once he runs out of bootleg talent like when Tebow left.

He's a COLLEGE coach who's PRIMARY job is to win games for his COLLEGE.

 

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Attract a Heisman trophy winning/#1 pick/2 Pro Bowls type QB to your program and want him to play Tight End brehs. Only on the Coli would nikkas try to make logic of this shyt.

We going to act like that Auburn team would have got close to winning a NC without Cam.

 

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Attract a Heisman trophy winning/#1 pick/2 Pro Bowls type QB to your program and want him to play Tight End brehs. Only on the Coli would nikkas try to make logic of this shyt.

We going to act like that Auburn team would have got close to winning a NC without Cam.

thats probably one of the most puzzling things about urban, cam fits his prototypical qb type

 

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Trying to sneak Manning into this.... like his daddy and Brother aren't who they are

Flacco as one of the best QB's also?

You can't remember a first rounder who came from a top 10 or NC program who came and had an amazing career?

-Andrew Luck currently, Stanford was ranked #4,#7 while he was there
-Aaron Rodgers came from a Cal Program that was ranked #9 in the nation.

You clearly missed what I was saying. I meant historically good programs. Both teams have been trash since those two left. And yes, flacco is one if the more successful qbs on this league

 

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His track record is

He sucks at developing QB's. He's a great recruiter at other positions but like Nick Saban and a few other big name coaches, they basically stack every other position to where the QB doesn't have to do much but manage the game. If they have a little bit of athleticism the QB can simply run after the first read isn't open and get away with it due to the lack of consistently equal competition. And you can always rely on the spread/hurry up because college teams don't have the time to properly prepare for it.

If you were high school QB, would you rather go to a small school that runs a pro style offense that will simulate an NFL offense or would you rather play for Urban Meyer? Big school or not you not getting paid so what's the different other than preparation?

Very good series of posts.

Before I proceed, for the record, I always hated the spread offense in both the option & air raid variants, and everything in between. As a package, fine, but as the entire offense, please .

My boy asked me last year why they don't translate and asked ne, knowing my fondness for football history, why QBs like Staubach, Namath, Montana ran triple option veer systems but translated in the league. The answer is simple: those QBs, while running a system they wouldn't be in the pros, started the majority of their plays where NFL QBs do: right behind a big fat ass. And not all of their run plays were option rides, they turned around to make handoffs on those running plays in the 30s & 40s series such as counters, off-tackle, & sweeps. The footwork for these plays were already embedded & only needed honing in the pros. And all those run plays run from under center are must haves in the NFL because they open up a huge part of NFL playbooks: play action passing.

Nowadays these kids come into the league have to be taught how to take snaps from under center. I mean Pop Warner level sh!t here... for a pro QB . And with how the spread offense has literally spread in the football world, you're beginning to see QBs enter the league having never spent literally a day under center in their life.

I dunno where it goes from here, just wish there was an actual minor leagues