I don't understand who is advising The Rock in Hollywood

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Your being a real hater status :comeon: Paul walker was able to carry fast and furious 2 . The rock is still not getting top billing over him look at the credits hell Jordana Brewster is still probably ahead of him . Takers was a hit too . Now your hating on Brendan Fraser ? He did the first journey and made it a success , his mummy movies launched the scorpion king .
Just admit you don't know how Hollywood work. Statham has now launched 3 franchises :expendables , transporter , crank ... Two of which are r rated . His movies have grossed over a billion dollars .Did you not notice that rocks last lead before journey which is faster didnt do that well. Nicca was cameoing in Tyler Perry movies :deadmanny:
They plan to add statham to fast 7 when that blows up should we give him the credit ??
You don't get as much cache in Hollywood for joining established franchises ( journey , gi joe fast five ) if rock is so hot why go back and add more channing Tatum? The rock can get to the a-list the same way mark wahlberg did he's just not there yet

Statham did not launch the Expendables. Stallone launched that franchise. If credit is going to be given to someone based on money made on an estabilshed franchise, Daniel Craig is bigger than Statham and Dwayne combined.

Takers may have been a hit for Paul Walker, but he was not the only star of the movie. Idris Elba would get mentioned before Paul Walker.

Channing Tatum is the current "IT" factor in Hollywood, so why not bring him back. since he starred the 1st GI Joe movie?

It's going to be awhile before Dwayne get that career-defining, break out role.
 

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Your being a real hater status :comeon: Paul walker was able to carry fast and furious 2 . The rock is still not getting top billing over him look at the credits hell Jordana Brewster is still probably ahead of him . Takers was a hit too . Now your hating on Brendan Fraser ? He did the first journey and made it a success , his mummy movies launched the scorpion king .
Just admit you don't know how Hollywood work. Statham has now launched 3 franchises :expendables , transporter , crank ... Two of which are r rated . His movies have grossed over a billion dollars .Did you not notice that rocks last lead before journey which is faster didnt do that well. Nicca was cameoing in Tyler Perry movies :deadmanny:
They plan to add statham to fast 7 when that blows up should we give him the credit ??
You don't get as much cache in Hollywood for joining established franchises ( journey , gi joe fast five ) if rock is so hot why go back and add more channing Tatum? The rock can get to the a-list the same way mark wahlberg did he's just not there yet
:whoa: Didn't know I was talking to a Hollywood insider here. You gotta blog fam :cenasabo:

Anyway, you're comparing this rehash lazy version of Hollywood where they make sequels to everything under the sun. If something can be made quickly and gain back profit it will usually get greenlit for a sequel. Low budget action movies like Statham makes are safe for that. Rock will do movies like that but he aims for the blockbusters. Right now he's getting placement for things Statham is just getting into as you mentioned. The numbers don't lie, Rock is a bigger box office draw than Statham and would be higher on "The List" for a big movie than him also.

And I heard nothing but respect in Hollywood for Rock. People are bigging him up for saving those Franchises. Plus he's guaranteed to make money whenever he's placed in a role.

But I sure hope that Movie Jason has with Jennifer Lopez makes it's money back :laff:
 

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The rock hasn't proven he can carry a franchise :manny: That's why he's not getting big budget action movies like most action stars
I'm sayin, guys are in here acting like Dwayne is Bruce Willis or something :laugh:

Like being Jason Statham status is such an insult. Statham has carried franchises that made money as the lead/only star. Unless Im missing something, Dwayne hasnt even done that yet. Guys really trying to give Dwayne credit for small supporting roles/already established franchises as if he's the star. :whoa: You gots to chillll
 

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I like Statham (in some movies, I don't watch every movie he does) but Rock is a way bigger star than he is and does better movies. Statham can rarely get a movie in the theaters anymore. He's direct to Redbox unless he's paired with an equal or bigger name like Stallone Da Gawd or Jennifer Lopez (I'm even surprised that one is actually going/went to the theaters).

:dwillhuh: see again with the hate. The man has grossed over a billion dollars in the box office while primarily being in r rated action movies that's a big accomplishment . The guy has multiple starring movies coming out a year unlike the rock till now . The rock had started in only the tooth fairy and faster until journey 2:beli: the nicca was doing cameos in Tyler perry movies for god sakes .
Lets see how snitch does if it flops what will be the excuse ? Oh not everyone has hits
 

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Say what you want about quality, but money talks in Hollywood and them shytty movies Rock made all made huge profits. In fact his best movies are the ones that made the least money.

The Game Plan cost $22 million to make but made $150 million at the box office.

The Tooth Fairy cost $48 million to make but made $112 million.

Race to witch Mountain had a budget of $50 million and made $106 million.

There aren't many actors working today who can boast those kinds of profits for film that they had the lead in.

Comparative, The Chaperone (starring HHH) made a whopping $43 thousand. Knucklehead (starring the Big Show) made less than 10 grand.

Rock's movie career is fine as long as they keep raking in money.
 

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:whoa: Didn't know I was talking to a Hollywood insider here. You gotta blog fam :cenasabo:

Anyway, you're comparing this rehash lazy version of Hollywood where they make sequels to everything under the sun. If something can be made quickly and gain back profit it will usually get greenlit for a sequel. Low budget action movies like Statham makes are safe for that. Rock will do movies like that but he aims for the blockbusters. Right now he's getting placement for things Statham is just getting into as you mentioned. The numbers don't lie, Rock is a bigger box office draw than Statham and would be higher on "The List" for a big movie than him also.

And I heard nothing but respect in Hollywood for Rock. People are bigging him up for saving those Franchises. Plus he's guaranteed to make money whenever he's placed in a role.

But I sure hope that Movie Jason has with Jennifer Lopez makes it's money back :laff:
Statham gets more credit for expendables then rock in fast five
:comeon: he's the co-lead . See how his name is big on the marquee ? He's the Paul walker of the movie it's his show . The rock saved franchises??? (241 mill dollars /60 mil budget journey 1, Fast and furious - 363 mil on 85mil , and gi joe 302 mil on 175 budget )he saved nothing lol . And gi joe didn't drop yet so we will see but notice they got nervous with that 185 million dollar budget huh.
Statham is in a lane r rated action movies that pretty much no one does because it's hard to make money . Lets look at the rocks resume there :wtb: or how many franchises he's started ??

Statham did not launch the Expendables. Stallone launched that franchise. If credit is going to be given to someone based on money made on an estabilshed franchise, Daniel Craig is bigger than Statham and Dwayne combined.

Takers may have been a hit for Paul Walker, but he was not the only star of the movie. Idris Elba would get mentioned before Paul Walker.

Channing Tatum is the current "IT" factor in Hollywood, so why not bring him back. since he starred the 1st GI Joe movie?

It's going to be awhile before Dwayne get that career-defining, break out role.

James Bond isn't comparable to statham in expendables or rock in fast five though. Statham is costar in expendables he's on the marquee , The rock isn't even on the fast five marquee . James Bond is a ongoing character like batman .
That's true that the rock needs that role though hopefully it's gi joe cause he's getting a almost 200 mil budget
 

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You damn sure aren't gonna check for a movie that has a WWE star in it though. That will never be a reason you go to the movies and pay your own money for.

Anyone whos that is str8 up full of bullshyt or 12 years old.

Jason Statham:laugh:

Get to "Race to Witch Mountain" money first....PURE comedy:laugh:

All wrestler movies suck, including the rock
 

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The way I see it Rock is doing what Schwarzenegger did with his career but in reverse.

Arnolds started off doing big budget action films, then started doing family comedies, then started doing lower budget action films.

Rock started out with the low budget stuff, then did the family films, and now he's doing the big budget action films.

IMO the best vehicle the Rock could possibly have is either a good action comedy written by Shane Black or a remake of Commando directed by Robert Rodriguez.
 

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All wrestler movies suck, including the rock

Nah a few of them have actually been pretty good and most of those are starring the Rock.

"They Live" starring Roddy Piper is considered a cult classic.

The Rundown, Walking Tall, & Gridiron Gang were all decent films.

I'd argue The Rundown was deserving of a sequel.
 

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Say what you want about quality, but money talks in Hollywood and them shytty movies Rock made all made huge profits. In fact his best movies are the ones that made the least money.

The Game Plan cost $22 million to make but made $150 million at the box office.

The Tooth Fairy cost $48 million to make but made $112 million.

Race to witch Mountain had a budget of $50 million and made $106 million.

There aren't many actors working today who can boast those kinds of profits for film that they had the lead in.

Comparative, The Chaperone (starring HHH) made a whopping $43 thousand. Knucklehead (starring the Big Show) made less than 10 grand.

Rock's movie career is fine as long as they keep raking in money.
The rock does have a good movie career . Those movies were years ago and the same way vin diesel gets shytted on for the pacifier so does the rock . They are supposed to be action stars family comedies don't bolster that portfolio At all . Family comedies and Romcoms are looked at with no respect in Hollywood :stopitslime: look at how well rocks starring action movies have done . Look at faster his last leading role in a serious action flick didnt do no 100 mil .
 

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Statham gets more credit for expendables then rock in fast five
:comeon: he's the co-lead . See how his name is big on the marquee ? He's the Paul walker of the movie it's his show . The rock saved franchises??? (241 mill dollars /60 mil budget journey 1, Fast and furious - 363 mil on 85mil , and gi joe 302 mil on 175 budget )he saved nothing lol . And gi joe didn't drop yet so we will see but notice they got nervous with that 185 million dollar budget huh.
Statham is in a lane r rated action movies that pretty much no one does because it's hard to make money . Lets look at the rocks resume there :wtb: or how many franchises he's started ??
I wonder what Expendables would have done without Stallone, Arnold, Jet Li, Bruce Willis, Mickie Rourke. Just Statham, Crews, Courture, Austin and some other guys :mjpls:

Sequel or not Journey 2 did better than Frasier's first, if people didn't want to see Rock in that movie it would have flopped which most of his movies don't do.

Like I said I like Statham movies but Rock aims higher. I didn't say he was bigger than Bruce Willis, Channing Tatum, Mark Whalberg, or anyone like that. But he's a bigger movie star than Jason Statham right now.
 
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