Hungerpain
Banned
Yea because talent automatically equates to popularity.
"I f'n hate rappers that don't write their own sh!t" - Funk Flex
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Biebavelli
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Being a good writer and being a good rapper are two different skill sets. Some people can do both, but others can only do 1 of the 2. Some of you are clowns for not understanding this simple concept...
He won't. They're too powerful. It's all about pandering to the pretend hip hop heads by shooting down easy targets.
No it's not. The biggest talent a rapper brings to the table is flow, which is like singing. But in speaking form. Flow is how you pronounce words and get them in rhythm with the beat. Rakim revolutionized the game first and foremost with his flow. Lord Jamar even said "Rakim introduced the calm flow." Think about it. Almost every rapper since Rakim rhymes calm like Rakim. Yet not all of them rap about the same shyt as Rakim. In fact, very few do. Think about it.
Of course a rapper should write his/her rhymes because rapping is basically poetic conversation. And when you're having conversation, it's two or more people exchanging thoughts from their own heads in a direct manner. You wouldn't converse with someone else's thoughts, would you? Sounds stupid, right? Imagine if you asked someone what he/she thought about his/her favorite food e.g. pizza, and his/her response was exactly the same, word for word as someone else. You'd be like
Direct conversation is personal. The whole point is to speak YOUR thoughts.You can sing someone else's song, and that's totally fine. Songs represent whole groups of people. There is very little that is specific or personal in the content. Writing, in a conversational/poetic sense, always represents self.
This is so obvious I wonder why we're discussing this in 2018. You can't claim to be a deep hip hop fan and not see this.
I used a Bill Clinton example once. You think Bill Clinton can't write better rhymes than at least half of all rappers that have ever rapped? He's certainly smart enough. But if you ask Bill to rap them shyts, he'll be one of the worst rappers you've ever heard.
Complete bullshyt
You need to go to one of them Hip Hop Karaoke parties 
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eastside313
Superstar
Which proves my point that it ain’t all about being able to rhymeYea because talent automatically equates to popularity.
DaveyDave
Superstar
Diddy doesn’t claim to be a top MC, he doesn’t go to Flex shows and drop bars etc.
does cardi claim to be a top MC? IF SO,u stand correct
diddy is a rapper,its simple , lets not play stupid
Terrance Curtis Beasley
These ni*gas claim Top 5 but we OVOK
exactly fukk drake
Terrance Curtis Beasley
These ni*gas claim Top 5 but we OVOK
Drake groupie fantasies
DaveyDave
Superstar
I don’t know, I don’t listen to that bullshyt. Does she claim to be a dope MC in her rhymes? I’ve seen people like Pitchfork saying crap like she’s one of the best rappers ever.
raoulduke187
All Star
hypocrite
He won't. They're too powerful. It's all about pandering to the pretend hip hop heads by shooting down easy targets.
No it's not. The biggest talent a rapper brings to the table is flow, which is like singing. But in speaking form. Flow is how you pronounce words and get them in rhythm with the beat. Rakim revolutionized the game first and foremost with his flow. Lord Jamar even said "Rakim introduced the calm flow." Think about it. Almost every rapper since Rakim rhymes calm like Rakim. Yet not all of them rap about the same shyt as Rakim. In fact, very few do. Think about it.
Of course a rapper should write his/her rhymes because rapping is basically poetic conversation. And when you're having conversation, it's two or more people exchanging thoughts from their own heads in a direct manner. You wouldn't converse with someone else's thoughts, would you? Sounds stupid, right? Imagine if you asked someone what he/she thought about his/her favorite food e.g. pizza, and his/her response was exactly the same, word for word as someone else. You'd be like
You can sing someone else's song, and that's totally fine. Songs represent whole groups of people. There is very little that is specific or personal in the content. Writing, in a conversational/poetic sense, always represents self.
This is so obvious I wonder why we're discussing this in 2018. You can't claim to be a deep hip hop fan and not see this.
I used a Bill Clinton example once. You think Bill Clinton can't write better rhymes than at least half of all rappers that have ever rapped? He's certainly smart enough. But if you ask Bill to rap them shyts, he'll be one of the worst rappers you've ever heard.
Complete bullshyt
Flow is often constructed by the way the verse is written and most songs today with ghostwriters have the writer spit a reference track for them. The rapper might sprinkle a little of their own unique touch into it but that little contribution ain't enough for me to consider them a top MC. When people talk about writing, part of that writing process is how the flow and presentation and perspective is constructed along with the words that's actually said. The Bill Clinton analogy is a terrible one and downplays how much skill is needed to actually write a dope rap song. Just because someone is intelligent with an extended vocabulary don't mean they got skills to rap. I can bump and listen to a rapper that don't write their own shyt with no problem. What I think that most people having a problem with is when they place these artists among the greats who do write their own shyt. The general point Flex has made in the past is that if you don't write your own shyt you shouldn't be considered in the top ten.
flex is indirectly responsible for the drakes and cardis of the world. Just imagine all of the NY talent that cold have popped that didnt have the cash for payola.
the mental gymnastics in this thread.. 