I get depressed about modern Black people and the future of a possible movement when i think about Huey Newton

[Who Not How]

I made this point before that nothing Black people build in the US will ever be allowed to stand. So the best idea is to leave and go to black countries where they can create without white interference. Since whites will never tolerate Black success in their midst without plotting, scheming, and actively trying to destroy it.

Unfortunately though you might get at best 1% of Black people to agree with that idea.

You don't need anyone to go with you. There are millions of Black people in those Black countries that you can work with. And when the time comes, a few brothas and sistas in America will wake up and see the opportunity for a better future and join you. You can already have roots planted so you can provide housing, jobs, resources, etc so their transition will be easier than yours.

Sometimes you gotta be the trailblazer even when people think you are crazy and don't know what you're talking about. You gotta believe in it when no one else does.

 

[Gloxina]

Yall don't get it

This won't happen because the ideology has changed

Something can't come from nothing

The new elders are dumb too

No, I do get it. Which is why I said I don’t see it happening.

The incentive used to be contributing to what will be a better community. That’s not seen as an incentive anymore.

 

[yung Herbie Hancock]

No, I do get it. Which is why I said I don’t see it happening.

The incentive used to be contributing to what will be a better community. That’s not seen as an incentive anymore.

I blame the Generation X black feminists. They're the main ones who made it mainstream to insinuate that it's bad to be black. They also the main ones who raised many of the self hating Gen Z.

 

[yung Herbie Hancock]

I understand that, too.


We need a generation of men and women to sacrifice to get this thing going in the right direction. But I don’t know if that’s going to happen

We already did that lol. Look up black men's rates for being step fathers. Rightt after the crack era we stepped up to become step dads due to all the fractured families. That didn't pay off because, despite all that, black feminists were working with white folks to undermine black society. Money that should've went towards setting up summer work programs for black teenagers and apprentice programs, instead flowed towards feminist programs. Obama tried to set up my brothers keeper to SPECIFICALLY make sure that black boys had career options and not end up going to gangs etc., this woman not only blocked the program, but she demonized it:

Opinion | The Girls Obama Forgot (Published 2014)

The president's initiative for black boys is premised on a mistaken notion.

www.nytimes.com

A lot of the boys commiting the carjacking nowadays could have benefited from the my brothers keeper program in 2015, but nah black feminists blocked it.

Does My Brother’s Keeper leave out young women of color?

The White House’s “My Brother’s Keeper” initiative has hit its one-year mark working to improve prospects and correct inequalities for young men of color, but some criticize the program for its focus on males.

www.pbs.org

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

No, I do get it. Which is why I said I don’t see it happening.

The incentive used to be contributing to what will be a better community. That’s not seen as an incentive anymore.

My bad

 

[Cakebatter]

I blame the Generation X black feminists. They're the main ones who made it mainstream to insinuate that it's bad to be black. They also the main ones who raised many of the self hating Gen Z.

Its not feminists, but Gen X'ers have simply bought into the idea of making change from within the system. Easiest way to kill a movement is for the establishment to give titles and jobs to the leaders of the resistance. Gen X'ers get the most excited over identity politics. We've had a Black President and Vice President, yet not a single move has been made to stop the war on drugs, despite knowing full well, that it had racist origins. Yet, many Gen X'er think we've made real progress. Go watch Roland Martin. Dude is a great example of what I'm talking about.

 

[Gloxina]

Its not feminists, but Gen X'ers have simply bought into the idea of making change from within the system. Easiest way to kill a movement is for the establishment to give titles and jobs to the leaders of the resistance. Gen X'ers get the most excited over identity politics. We've had a Black President and Vice President, yet not a single move has been made to stop the war on drugs, despite knowing full well, that it had racist origins. Yet, many Gen X'er think we've made real progress. Go watch Roland Martin. Dude is a great example of what I'm talking about.

I get it. Honestly, if you come from a middle class or > family, you probably have some connections and know how to move in this system, so you’ll be aight. It’s the young people who haven’t had that foundation who suffer the most.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Speaking of Heuy Newton, a certain demographic is hard at work trying to discredit him. This viral tweet from a few days ago:


She been doing this shyt since 2020. Here's her post in 2020:


Gen X raised the worst era of black folks. Gen Z is without a doubt THE WORST era of black people in history.

Man you always triggered about something on Twitter bringing it here. Are you learning nothing?

 

[The Fade]

We already did that lol. Look up black men's rates for being step fathers. Rightt after the crack era we stepped up to become step dads due to all the fractured families. That didn't pay off because, despite all that, black feminists were working with white folks to undermine black society. Money that should've went towards setting up summer work programs for black teenagers and apprentice programs, instead flowed towards feminist programs. Obama tried to set up my brothers keeper to SPECIFICALLY make sure that black boys had career options and not end up going to gangs etc., this woman not only blocked the program, but she demonized it:

Opinion | The Girls Obama Forgot (Published 2014)

The president's initiative for black boys is premised on a mistaken notion.

www.nytimes.com

A lot of the boys commiting the carjacking nowadays could have benefited from the my brothers keeper program in 2015, but nah black feminists blocked it.

Does My Brother’s Keeper leave out young women of color?

The White House’s “My Brother’s Keeper” initiative has hit its one-year mark working to improve prospects and correct inequalities for young men of color, but some criticize the program for its focus on males.

www.pbs.org

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[MasterThought]

It's over.

We call OURSELVES "n1ggas" and get enjoyment out of music that promotes our own genocide.

It's over.

 

[yung Herbie Hancock]

Its not feminists, but Gen X'ers have simply bought into the idea of making change from within the system. Easiest way to kill a movement is for the establishment to give titles and jobs to the leaders of the resistance. Gen X'ers get the most excited over identity politics. We've had a Black President and Vice President, yet not a single move has been made to stop the war on drugs, despite knowing full well, that it had racist origins. Yet, many Gen X'er think we've made real progress. Go watch Roland Martin. Dude is a great example of what I'm talking about.

They're morons. They think that their personal success means the community succeeds, then once they realize this isnt true (due to community violance/chaos) they brush it off as "poor inner city black men are just naturally violent". None of those clowns advocate for investments into black teenagers and pre-teens. That's the KEY time period. Black teens barely have summer jobs or summer programs. shyt needs to change. Unemployment/lack of internships or co-op during the 16 - 22 age range is what effects how your community will turn out.

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

Blatantly murdered that man
He was actually doing shyt
Now, BLM comes along and just blatantly steals money, headed by ppl who don't represent the community

It just came out that FBI worked with a police woman to surveil protesters

Is there ever going to be another widespread movement or are we done?

I think no
Americans are getting more stupid and the college educated ones have bought into the system

Youtube and other social media don't help

@The Fade

It even trickles down into the culture

If we lived in a society that had Black consciousness, ppl like Akademiks and FreshandFit never have a successful platform

Nice thread topic. I see truth to your statement. IMO another movement would be a mistake because like others it would become fad that will disappear in a short period of time. What needs to change is ownership and basically coming to the conclusion the way we operate isn't working. All other groups quietly make moves with long term plans while we holler justice while marching in short term spurts.

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

Facts. One o the biggest problems is black men wanting to involve black women into everything. It's not a good move since that also includes divestors and the self sabotaging types like the womanists/feminists.

 

[ignorethis]

I know most dudes never read most the writings of the BPP and BLA, but a lot of the issues with BLM were present then as well.

Anarchy Can’t Fight Alone

Kuwasi Balagoon Anarchy Can’t Fight Alone

theanarchistlibrary.org

Under their leadership, “political consequences” (attacks) against occupation forces ceased altogether. Only a Fraction of the money collected for the Purpose of bail went towards bail. The leaders began to live high off the hog while the rank and file sold papers, were filtered out leaving behind so many robots who wouldn’t challenge policy until those in jail publicly denounced the leadership.

How could a few jerks divert so much purpose and energy for so long? How could they neutralize the courage and intellect of the cadre? The answers to these questions are that the cadre accepted their leadership and accepted their command regardless of what their intellect had or had not made clear to them. The true democratic process which they were willing to die for, for the sake of their children, they would not claim for themselves.

Huey really isn’t the best example to juxtapose against BLM.

 

[Cakebatter]

I know most dudes never read most the writings of the BPP and BLA, but a lot of the issues with BLM were present then as well.

Anarchy Can’t Fight Alone

Kuwasi Balagoon Anarchy Can’t Fight Alone

theanarchistlibrary.org

Huey really isn’t the best example to juxtapose against BLM.

I hate that even most Black people don't know the difference between the BLM movement and the organization BLM Global Network.