
It would tear your fukking soul apart to give my nikkaz they props huh?Tampa's not a great team and Jameis, who has played better, isn't a great QB. The L's will start piling up and y'all will get ghost (as usual) but enjoy your win

Nobody is sayin' we're a great team. We're still a young team tryin' to build up. And Jameis may not be great, but I'd take him over a most of the QBs in the league now. And if the L's pile up, we still gonna be talkin's shyt, cuz that's what we doTampa's not a great team and Jameis, who has played better, isn't a great QB. The L's will start piling up and y'all will get ghost (as usual) but enjoy your win

Tampa's not a great team and Jameis, who has played better, isn't a great QB. The L's will start piling up and y'all will get ghost (as usual) but enjoy your win

It would tear your fukking soul apart to give my nikkaz they props huh?![]()

Nobody is sayin' we're a great team. We're still a young team tryin' to build up. And Jameis may not be great, but I'd take him over a most of the QBs in the league now. And if the L's pile up, we still gonna be talkin's shyt, cuz that's what we do![]()
Nah, fukk that. You said he'd fukk up vs Seattle and he played a solid game. Back to back W's vs KC and Seattle. Hold the L![]()
I ain't holding shyt, Mariota still better :IMAX:Jameis' last 2 games have literally taken a shyt all over and inside @AVXL's mouth. Delusion at its finest right there with that poor soul.


shyt I'd take 8 wins, that was more than the 5 or 6 that I predicted at the beginning of the year. I could see us goin' 9-7 we beat the Chargers next week, lose to the 'Boys, sweep the Panthers and split with the Saints. We prolly miss the 'offs with both of the wild cards coming out of the east.Y'all played a good game and so did Scameis. I've given y'all props before...nothing has changed
Since you one of the few Bucs fan to post good or bad I respect this. I still don't think y'all get more than 8 wins this yr
Hold the L when he's still behind us in the standings?I ain't holding shyt, Mariota still better :IMAX:
Judge a QB off of 2 games brehs
Be a groupie by your screenname brehs![]()
We ain't losing to them fukkboysshyt I'd take 8 wins, that was more than the 5 or 6 that I predicted at the beginning of the year. I could see us goin' 9-7 we beat the Chargers next week, lose to the 'Boys, sweep the Panthers and split with the Saints. We prolly miss the 'offs with both of the wild cards coming out of the east.


"B-bu-but Jameis has more turnovers than Mariota"Let's not lose sight of the original premise of this shytty thread. I just watched Mariota look a lot worse against a Bears defense that Jameis shredded. He was a dropped pass away from holding a L against Matt Barkley![]()




Winston has always been a playmaker, but the knocks against him have been his low completion percentage and high turnover numbers. In order to properly interpret those numbers, you have to take into account what the Buccaneers are asking him to do.
In short, Tampa is asking a lot of its young quarterback, in terms of both volume and degree of difficulty. Winston has attempted near 200 more passes than Mariota has through two seasons. Coming into the weekend, he led the league in average pass length, according to the NFL’s in-house stat keeping. At the same time, only Luck has been pressured on a higher percentage of dropbacks than Winston, per Football Outsiders.
Quick recap: Winston is being asked to carry the Bucs offense on his back and make the toughest throws in the NFL with some of the worst pass protection you will find in the league.
Considering all that, it’s remarkable that Winston is anywhere close to producing a league-average statline. And that’s not even taking into account how young he is. Only one quarterback who has started multiple games this season is younger than Winston: Jared Goff.
If you watch Winston play, it’s shocking that he is so advanced given his age. Quarterbacks that young are not supposed to be this poised in the pocket.
He has an innate ability to feel pressure and has the spatial awareness to avoid it and navigate the pocket while keeping his eyes downfield. This is the kind of pocket play you expect from guys like Tom Brady, Philip Rivers and Drew Brees, not some 22-year-old kid who was just thrown in the deep end and expected to swim from the start of his career.
That presence in the pocket is a big reason why Winston has taken fewer sacks and performed better than Mariota despite facing more pressure, according to ESPN.com:
Despite being pressured at a much higher rate, Winston has been sacked at a far lower rate than Mariota, 4.9 percent to 6.9 percent. When under pressure, Winston completes a higher percentage of passes than Mariota, and he has thrown an interception on 1.6 percent of his attempts, compared with 3.7 percent for Mariota. Winston’s Total QBR when under pressure is 64.6 for his career, the highest among qualified quarterbacks in that span. Mariota is at 16.5, which ranks 28th.
(Winston’s turnover problems are overblown, anyway. The 22-year-old has combined for 39 interceptions and fumbles in 27 career games, or 1.44 per game. Mariota — who plays a more conservative brand of football — has combined for 35 in 24 career games, or 1.45 per game. If Winston has a problem protecting the football, then so does Mariota.)

