I hate race bate threads but Kid Rock should have never gotten a pass.

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The thing about Kid Rock is he rode the nu-metal wave to get popular. He basically admitted that shyt in Rolling Stone last year, said he could "do that in [his] sleep." He had his beginnings in Hip-Hop, but he knew he'd never make it solely as a rapper so he slowly transitioned out of it.
 

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"We" never gave him a pass
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I can honestly say I never listened to any his songs or had the desire to. I've always put him in the same box as these other white artists who hop on Black culture then switch up once they get a buzz going for themselves.
 

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I remember when Pink & Christina Agulara (how ever the fukk you spell it) did the same shyt. Had a bunch of black people in the background in their videos like they was all ghetto and shyt then as soon as they got famous they switched to being upper class white people and catering their music to white people. They use black art as a stepping stone then throw our culture away like trash.

Black people need to stop falling for that shyt because it's a few sambos getting paid to c00n in them fukking videos.
We didn't fall for shyt. Black people didn't fukk with his music and he got no pass and was not accepted
 

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And again, this is still the same type of music that she did for three albums. I could care less who did or didn't give her a pass.
:stopitslime:That song sounds nothin like her earlier stuff, she blew up with Genie In a Bottle and made straight pop records her debut album was literally teen pop. When her career started slowin down she switched to a urban sound put on some weight and changed her hair to black to look more latina:mjlol:she had rappers on her songs started gettin half naked in videos gyratin and humpin the floor callin herself "dirrty" usin black slang. All of that was a calculated move to get black people to buy her music and she knew black guys would check for her now that she was more "thick", not only did she use black culture to rejuvenate her career but by goin from pristine white girl to a sexually vulgar latina she basically sent the message that bein "dirty" is a black/latino thing.:mjpls: She's even worst than Pink because of that but guys like you are caping for her because you're attracted to her:snoop:nikkas need to quit c00nin for white women all the time.
 

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:stopitslime:That song sounds nothin like her earlier stuff, she blew up with Genie In a Bottle and made straight pop records her debut album was literally teen pop. When her career started slowin down she switched to a urban sound put on some weight and changed her hair to black to look more latina:mjlol:she had rappers on her songs started gettin half naked in videos gyratin and humpin the floor callin herself "dirrty" usin black slang. All of that was a calculated move to get black people to buy her music and she knew black guys would check for her now that she was more "thick", not only did she use black culture to rejuvenate her career but by goin from pristine white girl to a sexually vulgar latina she basically sent the message that bein "dirty" is a black/latino thing.:mjpls: She's even worst than Pink because of that but guys like you are caping for her because you're attracted to her:snoop:nikkas need to quit c00nin for white women all the time.

I've never listened to her debut album, but teen Pop isn't exactly white especially in the 90's when you had Brandy, Aaliyah, and Monica who crossed over into that lane. "Genie In A Bottle" isn't much different stylistically from what they were doing. In fact, "Genie In A Bottle" got play on Urban stations, which is possibly why her later albums sounded more Black than her debut.

Her looking more Latina is irrelevant especially since that is a part of who she is. Her having rappers on her songs is nothing new either because during that era, the whole Mickey Mouse club of Pop stars had Pop acts on their songs.

Black people were already checking for her.

Ain't nobody c00ning for nobody.
 

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I've never listened to her debut album, but teen Pop isn't exactly white especially in the 90's when you had Brandy, Aaliyah, and Monica who crossed over into that lane. "Genie In A Bottle" isn't much different stylistically from what they were doing. In fact, "Genie In A Bottle" got play on Urban stations, which is possibly why her later albums sounded more Black than her debut.

Her looking more Latina is irrelevant especially since that is a part of who she is. Her having rappers on her songs is nothing new either because during that era, the whole Mickey Mouse club of Pop stars had Pop acts on their songs.

Black people were already checking for her.

Ain't nobody c00ning for nobody.
The teen pop she made was white girl shyt and Genie In A Bottle wasn't urban the way that song is, she presented herself as a white girl wit the blonde hair:cacjordan:and white soundin music nobody looked at her as a latina she conveniently started lookin more latina when she was tryna appeal to the black/urban population.:mjpls: She wasn't havin rappers on her songs until that era and black people weren't listenin to her music before she went "urban", they said she had pipes but they weren't bumpin her earlier shyt it was little white girls buyin those albums. You in here capin for her, either you c00nin or simpin.:mmmhmmiseeyou:
 

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The teen pop she made was white girl shyt and Genie In A Bottle wasn't urban the way that song is, she presented herself as a white girl wit the blonde hair:cacjordan:and white soundin music nobody looked at her as a latina she conveniently started lookin more latina when she was tryna appeal to the black/urban population.:mjpls: She wasn't havin rappers on her songs until that era and black people weren't listenin to her music before she went "urban", they said she had pipes but they weren't bumpin her earlier shyt it was little white girls buyin those albums. You in here capin for her, either you c00nin or simpin.:mmmhmmiseeyou:

What was white girl about "Genie In A Bottle"? What was white sounding about it?

What does looking Latina do to appeal to an Black/Urban population?

"Genie In A Bottle" was a hit on Urban stations.

I don't cape, c00n, or simp or whatever you want to categorize it. I'm not a fan of generalizing and speculation when there's no logic or fact to back it up.
 

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What was white girl about "Genie In A Bottle"? What was white sounding about it?

What does looking Latina do to appeal to an Black/Urban population?

"Genie In A Bottle" was a hit on Urban stations.

I don't cape, c00n, or simp or whatever you want to categorize it. I'm not a fan of generalizing and speculation when there's no logic or fact to back it up.
:comeon:That song had a white pop sound you didn't see black folk bumpin that for a reason, either way it wasn't "black" the way that urban soundin song from "Dirrty" was.

:francis:She didn't start lookin latina and "embracin her roots" until that era when she also was tryna appeal to the urban demographic who are blacks/hispanics.

Genie In A Bottle was a hit period if they played "Baby One More Time" on there it woulda been a hit too but that don't make it urban, they play alot of songs on Urban stations that aren't truly urban the fact that she was a latina is prolly why but once she established herself as a "white" teeny bopper she didn't get play.

You doin all 3 of those things in here, you just tryna spin it as "not bein a fan of generalizin" to defend it.:mjpls: There's plenty of logic to back up her usin black culture durin that era for success, she didn't make those types of songs/videos before and hasn't made them since.:camby:
 

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I'm really starting to understand when brehs say Black people are too lenient and open.

I completely agree. Here's what I found on his wikipedia article

"Ritchie was born on January 17, 1971 in Romeo, Michigan to William "Bill" Ritchie, a car dealer who owned several local dealerships, and Susan Ritchie. He attended Romeo High School.[4] His family also owned a six-acre orchard and Robert regularly helped pick apples and cared for the family's horses.[5] He has three siblings: the two elder are brother William "Billy" Ritchie and sister Carol Ritchie; his younger sister, Jill Ritchie, is an actress.[6] Ritchie found small-town life dull and became interested in rap music, learning how to breakdance and participating in talent shows in the Detroit area"

he was just another white kid that got into rap because it was new and different.

The only white people I give passes are the whites that really grew up around that culture or put serious work in, the rest will always get the side eye because they can(and probably will) switch up at any time.
 

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:comeon:That song had a white pop sound you didn't see black folk bumpin that for a reason, either way it wasn't "black" the way that urban soundin song from "Dirrty" was.

:francis:She didn't start lookin latina and "embracin her roots" until that era when she also was tryna appeal to the urban demographic who are blacks/hispanics.

Genie In A Bottle was a hit period if they played "Baby One More Time" on there it woulda been a hit too but that don't make it urban, they play alot of songs on Urban stations that aren't truly urban the fact that she was a latina is prolly why but once she established herself as a "white" teeny bopper she didn't get play.

You doin all 3 of those things in here, you just tryna spin it as "not bein a fan of generalizin" to defend it.:mjpls: There's plenty of logic to back up her usin black culture durin that era for success, she didn't make those types of songs/videos before and hasn't made them since.:camby:

As far as "Genie In A Bottle" sounding white:

Kipner co-writer of the track was impressed by Aguilera's performance of complex R&B lines during the recording of the track, something he only saw in older artists comparing her vocals to that of; Chaka Khan, Etta James and Mariah Carey.

Steve Kipner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And "Dirrty" was pretty much intended to be a rip off of Redman's "Let's Get Dirrty".

So changing your hair color, getting some piercings, wearing contacts = embracing her roots? There's more to someone embracing their roots than changing physical attributes. On top of it, nothing she changed is exclusive to Latinas.

If, then statements don't work, because we don't know that. In any case, "Baby One More Time" isn't exactly a white record either. It wasn't even written for Britney Spears.


"bu, bu, but Christina hasn't made music like "Dirrty" since":









I'm not in here generalizing. I can back up my posts. Can you?
 
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