I hate race bate threads but Kid Rock should have never gotten a pass.

[IllmaticDelta]

The teen pop she made was white girl shyt and Genie In A Bottle wasn't urban the way that song is, she presented herself as a white girl wit the blonde hair:cacjordan:and white soundin music nobody looked at her as a latina she conveniently started lookin more latina when she was tryna appeal to the black/urban population. She wasn't havin rappers on her songs until that era and black people weren't listenin to her music before she went "urban", they said she had pipes but they weren't bumpin her earlier shyt it was little white girls buyin those albums. You in here capin for her, either you c00nin or simpin.:mmmhmmiseeyou:

Genie In A Bottle was very in debt to R&B and do remember it getting played in the "hood"

 

[George's Dilemma]

I completely agree. Here's what I found on his wikipedia article

"Ritchie was born on January 17, 1971 in Romeo, Michigan to William "Bill" Ritchie, a car dealer who owned several local dealerships, and Susan Ritchie. He attended Romeo High School.[4] His family also owned a six-acre orchard and Robert regularly helped pick apples and cared for the family's horses.[5] He has three siblings: the two elder are brother William "Billy" Ritchie and sister Carol Ritchie; his younger sister, Jill Ritchie, is an actress.[6] Ritchie found small-town life dull and became interested in rap music, learning how to breakdance and participating in talent shows in the Detroit area"

he was just another white kid that got into rap because it was new and different.

The only white people I give passes are the whites that really grew up around that culture or put serious work in, the rest will always get the side eye because they can(and probably will) switch up at any time.

Exactly!!! I remember when Lord Jamar said that white artists where guests within Hip Hop. Admittedly at the time I didn't entirely agree with him, especially with so many mediocre Black artists being given a pass. And he came off like a bitter angry person. Now though, I see what he means. You can't be a white artist making money off of Black culture, pimping it for all you can, and then sh!t on the very grievances about the system dear to that culture's heart. Can't have it both ways. I wouldn't take issue if he respectfully said he disagrees about the methods of protest, or what have you. And really, that might be too lenient as well because the very fact that he's used Hip Hop to make himself wealthy should be reason enough for him not to take a political stand contrary to anything affecting Black people. He shouldn't say anything at all. Still, to take it a step further like he did, and do that in front of a Country audience? He's dead wrong for that. Should have never been given a pass.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm really starting to understand when brehs say Black people are too lenient and open. This is a dude that was given a pass, like it was okay to ride the wave of a Black artform and then he turns around and sh!ts on am issue that disproportionately affects Black people. Fukk Kid Rock and his family. Fukk his daughter and everything dear to him. Its one thing to disagree , its another thing to pander to racists and brush off unarmed Black men dying at the hands of police......all the while benefiting from a Black artform.

53 second mark, he didnt only sh!t on Kaepernick, but Black men and an issue that affects us in the worst way possible. Fukk Robert James Ritchie, Kelly South Russell, and Robert Ritchie Jr. Trick Trick, and anybody from Detroit that gives him a pass after thiss, I wouldnt piss on them if we were in hell together.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The thing about Kid Rock is he rode the nu-metal wave to get popular. He basically admitted that shyt in Rolling Stone last year, said he could "do that in [his] sleep." He had his beginnings in Hip-Hop, but he knew he'd never make it solely as a rapper so he slowly transitioned out of it.

Yelawolf? Post Malone?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[Kingshango]

We gave Kid Rock a pass?

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

White ppl don't even give a fukk about Kid Rock

 

[loyola llothta]

Fuk kid rock and em, from Detroit my ass

 

[Black Gatsby]

yea his career is weird

from being a "hip-hop head" dj, to that rap-rock bullshyt, to being a fukking country redneck

but who really gives a shyt about what kid rock has to say lol

bawitdaba ass cac

 

[Black Gatsby]

giving "passes" is a favorite pastime of Black Americans. we love it. "hood passes" "ghetto passes"

Bill Clinton = 1st "black" president.

Justin Timberlake omg...he...kind of dances...black
Justin Bieber...omg...I think he likes black girls

17 year white girl post video of her mimicking dance routines she saw some Black kids doing white girls!!
white girls get Kardashian influenced ass shots around the world OMG!! white girls are evolving...Black girls better watch out!! I don't care if she call me n1gger or says nikka, she got a phat ass!

Michael Phelps gets his haircut by a black barber...I knew he was real!

old white politican from toronto has intern tweet out hip hop lyrics OMG!!! Norm is so cool brehs!

she dates black guys
he likes black women
he listens to rap brehs

THIS!
It's fukking embarrassing

 

[Black Gatsby]

I only fukk wit Post Malone

"Deja Vu" on muhfuccin repeats

 

[Stack Money]

As far as "Genie In A Bottle" sounding white:

Kipner co-writer of the track was impressed by Aguilera's performance of complex R&B lines during the recording of the track, something he only saw in older artists comparing her vocals to that of; Chaka Khan, Etta James and Mariah Carey.

Steve Kipner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And "Dirrty" was pretty much intended to be a rip off of Redman's "Let's Get Dirrty".

So changing your hair color, getting some piercings, wearing contacts = embracing her roots? There's more to someone embracing their roots than changing physical attributes. On top of it, nothing she changed is exclusive to Latinas.

If, then statements don't work, because we don't know that. In any case, "Baby One More Time" isn't exactly a white record either. It wasn't even written for Britney Spears.


"bu, bu, but Christina hasn't made music like "Dirrty" since":









I'm not in here generalizing. I can back up my posts. Can you?

You goin hard for your favorite white girl, in here doin the absolute most to defend this culture appropriatin vulture.

As I already stated everyone knew and acknowledged her singin abilities from jump that was never in question, she has the voice of a black chick thats what you basin your argument on but she was makin white pop music which you tryin to deny. Sayin that song was a ripoff of a rap song just further proves my point, thanks for supportin my argument.

I'm pretty sure her natural hair color is black, the point is she got a little chunky to get some "curves" and made herself up to look more latina durin that "urban" era yet when she came on the scene makin teeny bopper shyt for white girls she had the skinny blonde haired blue eyed white girl look. I never said it was exclusive to latinas but she looked more latina when she changed that shyt, you're intentionally bein obtuse cause you don't wanna admit your girl was presentin different ethnicities for record sales.

The statement does work cause it happens in radio if a song is a hit its gonna get spins on whatever station its played on it don't necessarily have to fit the stations genre, you must not know about payola and muhfukkas requestin songs they like on local stations if they hear it while changin channels. Now you tryna say Baby One More Time is a black record:michaeljordanlaugh:I know it was made wit TLC in mind but that wasn't no R&B shyt my nikka, you seem to think everythin is urban or at least thats the tactic you usin to support your flimsy argument.:mmmhmmiseeyou:

You would know her music better than I do c00n, by admittin you bump that shyt I can tell you ain't from Harlem. That first song was off Back To Basics (her very next album) she was makin songs in the style of her first album that joint is like the only one on the album wit the "urban" style, and Bionic as the cover shows was her tryna copy Lady Gaga who does some urban shyt herself most of that album was electropop but figures you'd single out the few that had R&B influences. None of those songs are as "urban" as the ones from Stripped which were full R&B/Hip Hop shyt but keep cherry pickin select joints to pretend most of her music was like that album, you notice she didn't make no videos from those albums wit rappers and doin freak dancin either cause she was back on her white pop shyt.

I'm not generalizin either I'm callin your girl out on what she did, I've backed up everythin I said you can't back up shyt you just pickin and choosin what you want to see while ignorin the rest of her pop catalog to defend your white girl.

Genie In A Bottle was very in debt to R&B and do remember it getting played in the "hood"

It might've had R&B influence most pop does but it was still clearly pop, and nikkas wasn't bumpin no damn Genie In A Bottle in the hood.

 

[DarkmanX]

nobody looked at her as a latina she conveniently started lookin more latina when she was tryna appeal to the black/urban population.

Another real thing i also said years ago. Real spit.

 

[JustCKing]

You goin hard for your favorite white girl, in here doin the absolute most to defend this culture appropriatin vulture.

As I already stated everyone knew and acknowledged her singin abilities from jump that was never in question, she has the voice of a black chick thats what you basin your argument on but she was makin white pop music which you tryin to deny. Sayin that song was a ripoff of a rap song just further proves my point, thanks for supportin my argument.

I'm pretty sure her natural hair color is black, the point is she got a little chunky to get some "curves" and made herself up to look more latina durin that "urban" era yet when she came on the scene makin teeny bopper shyt for white girls she had the skinny blonde haired blue eyed white girl look. I never said it was exclusive to latinas but she looked more latina when she changed that shyt, you're intentionally bein obtuse cause you don't wanna admit your girl was presentin different ethnicities for record sales.

The statement does work cause it happens in radio if a song is a hit its gonna get spins on whatever station its played on it don't necessarily have to fit the stations genre, you must not know about payola and muhfukkas requestin songs they like on local stations if they hear it while changin channels. Now you tryna say Baby One More Time is a black record:michaeljordanlaugh:I know it was made wit TLC in mind but that wasn't no R&B shyt my nikka, you seem to think everythin is urban or at least thats the tactic you usin to support your flimsy argument.:mmmhmmiseeyou:

You would know her music better than I do c00n, by admittin you bump that shyt I can tell you ain't from Harlem. That first song was off Back To Basics (her very next album) she was makin songs in the style of her first album that joint is like the only one on the album wit the "urban" style, and Bionic as the cover shows was her tryna copy Lady Gaga who does some urban shyt herself most of that album was electropop but figures you'd single out the few that had R&B influences. None of those songs are as "urban" as the ones from Stripped which were full R&B/Hip Hop shyt but keep cherry pickin select joints to pretend most of her music was like that album, you notice she didn't make no videos from those albums wit rappers and doin freak dancin either cause she was back on her white pop shyt.

I'm not generalizin either I'm callin your girl out on what she did, I've backed up everythin I said you can't back up shyt you just pickin and choosin what you want to see while ignorin the rest of her pop catalog to defend your white girl.


It might've had R&B influence most pop does but it was still clearly pop, and nikkas wasn't bumpin no damn Genie In A Bottle in the hood.

A whole wall of butt-hurt ignorance. First, I didn't even say anything about her voice. The person who co-wrote the song acknowledged the R&B aspect of it. He wrote it. Pop music is Pop music. People of all races make Pop music. It's not exclusive to race. There's a such thing as Urban Pop, which is exclusive to market.

Saying that it's a rip-off of a rap song proves nothing. "Dirrty" is produced by Rockwilder, who also produced Christina's song. It's common for artists to ask producers to give them something that sounds like another hit they produced.

You're in here saying I know more about her music, but you're in her typing walls of text about it. If I'm a c00n for bumping her music, what does it make you?

Back To Basics is mostly R&B:

Back To Basics
Pray
Back In The Day
Understand
FUSS
Here To Stay

basically the whole first disc is Hip Hop influenced R&B and pays to Blues and Jazz greats.

The next album was electropop, but still had:

Sex For Breakfast
Morning Dessert (Intro)
Woo Hoo

This isn't about me singling out anything. You said that she stopped making Hip Hop influenced R&B, which I debunked by posting songs from later albums that still did. Not only that, but she has an entire album full of Hip Hop influenced R&B records that came after Stripped much more so than that album had.

I don't play color cards when it comes to music, but clearly the artist the writers/producers of "Baby One More Time" wasn't white. TLC is an R&B group that has Pop crossover hits.

And you clearly never saw the "Not Myself Tonight" video and not see the parallels to "Dirrty".

 

[Stack Money]

A whole wall of butt-hurt ignorance. First, I didn't even say anything about her voice. The person who co-wrote the song acknowledged the R&B aspect of it. He wrote it. Pop music is Pop music. People of all races make Pop music. It's not exclusive to race. There's a such thing as Urban Pop, which is exclusive to market.

Saying that it's a rip-off of a rap song proves nothing. "Dirrty" is produced by Rockwilder, who also produced Christina's song. It's common for artists to ask producers to give them something that sounds like another hit they produced.

You're in here saying I know more about her music, but you're in her typing walls of text about it. If I'm a c00n for bumping her music, what does it make you?

Back To Basics is mostly R&B:

Back To Basics
Pray
Back In The Day
Understand
FUSS
Here To Stay

basically the whole first disc is Hip Hop influenced R&B and pays to Blues and Jazz greats.

The next album was electropop, but still had:

Sex For Breakfast
Morning Dessert (Intro)
Woo Hoo

This isn't about me singling out anything. You said that she stopped making Hip Hop influenced R&B, which I debunked by posting songs from later albums that still did. Not only that, but she has an entire album full of Hip Hop influenced R&B records that came after Stripped much more so than that album had.

I don't play color cards when it comes to music, but clearly the artist the writers/producers of "Baby One More Time" wasn't white. TLC is an R&B group that has Pop crossover hits.

And you clearly never saw the "Not Myself Tonight" video and not see the parallels to "Dirrty".

The only one butthurt is you capin hard for the white girl, you sayin these songs "sound" like R&B is referencin her voice cause her voice is the main reason they have a R&B sound. He might've been influenced by R&B but it was clearly a pop song, and pop is mostly white the majority of Christina's fans are white and most bytches makin pop are white girls ain't no nikkas listenin to "Urban Pop".

Rippin off rap proves what that other dude was sayin she stealin from black culture to make money, you tryna spin it as just "askin a producer to make it sound like a hit he produced" ain't gonna work cause she wasn't askin for POP hits she went to a black producer who exclusively produced for black rappers/a few black R&B singers to make her a song that appealed to black folks so once again thanks for helpin prove my point.

You the one droppin random songs from her albums like you knew them offhand and I always type "walls of text" in debatesI heard that Bionic when it came out but don't "bump it" and knew the Back To Basics album was partially her returnin to her old sound as the album title implies but nice try at deflectin your Xtina stannin. Hell you in here listin off all her songs and tellin me which ones were which genre yet are claimin I'm the c00n bumpin her music:michaeljordanlaugh:as you said Back To Basics pays homage to Blues and Jazz it ain't no Hip Hop/R&B like that other album you just singled out the one song that had a somewhat similar sound to her previous album. I said Stripped was her only album that had that "urban" sound and look in the videos and I was right, you tryna say by her returnin to her Blues/Jazz roots in the next album its the same as switchin her look to more like a latina usin hip hop slang and poppin that thang in videos. You didn't debunk shyt you brought up songs from different genres and tried to act like they're the same as Hip Hop/R&B just cause they were created by black folksthats literally "playin color cards" (and you just officially exposed yourself as a cac/c00n by usin that term which only racists use).

I don't care who the people behind Baby One More Time were Britney was a white bytch and the sound was mostly white just like the people in the video:cacjordan:TLC havin crossover pop hits backs up my point that the song was pop which is why they thought of TLC when they made it cause they had pop songs, my analogy was if that song was on urban radio like Genie In A Bottle it woulda been a "hit on urban radio" too cause hits always get regular rotation on whatever stations they played on. I've definitely seen the Not Myself Tonight videoit has way more parallels to Madonna's Human Nature video (which is what it was clearly inspired by) than Dirrty, she had the whole BDSM look in the video like Madonna did while in Dirrty she was just shakin her ass and twerkin which is "urban" thats why she had significantly more black/hispanic people in the Dirrty video than in the Not Myself Tonight video.:mmmhmmiseeyou: