I have never seen anyone look down on smart kids in the black schools I went to.

[Will Ross]

I'm starting to think that it's maybe a generational thing because I graduated in this decade and that is what my experience comes from.

That is why this generation is way more free than any before.

 

[Eddy Gordo]

shyt literally just happen to my kid at school

hatin on her for liking to read

came home crying

Do WHATEVER you got to do to put a stop to that shyt.

I remember in eighth grade a kid got shanked so bad he wound up in the hospital for a week. He got shanked for reading at lunch.

 

[Amused Mastery]

Yeah, I def grew up with it. In my experience, you'd get made fun of for:

• Having super nerdy interests (games, comics, etc.)
• Not speaking using slang (my parents didn't play that)
• Listening to different types of music (again my parents weren't fans of hip-hop)
• Wasn't really into any sports at the time

While I got along with most kids my age, I definitely got ribbed on stuff like that. As I got older I noticed that those social divides start to lessen up and you see more overlap.

I'm starting to think that it's maybe a generational thing because I graduated in this decade and that is what my experience comes from.

Yeah at this point being black and nerdy is ridiculously mainstream. 90's were a different era

 

[Samori Toure]

“Go into any inner-city neighborhood, and folks will tell you that government alone can’t teach kids to learn.They know that parents have to parent, that children can’t achieve unless we raise their expectations and turn off the television sets and eradicate the slander that says a black youth with a book is acting white.”
—Barack Obama, Keynote Address, Democratic National Convention, 2004



It started in the late 60's right after or during the Civil Rights Movements, when white teachers began saying Black students do not speak standard English and so could not be taught....this was a ploy to maintain segregation. As a result division develop between Black student who spoke proper English and those who did not. Black teachers reacted in the mid 70's with an attempt to have common street vernacular/slang in the Black community accept as a language in schools and it was called "Ebonics"...it failed and many Blacks students felt disaffected /humiliated and defeated by the education they were receiving from the White establishment curriculum that was design for White students. Black students who excelled in mostly highly integrated ( or white Teachers) schools began to be seen by some Blacks students as sellout and so were label "acting white".






In An Empirical Analysis of "Acting White" (NBER Working Paper No. 11334), co-authors Roland Fryer and Paul Torelli find that black and Hispanic students who earn high grades face social costs in terms of their popularity. Fryer and Torelli define "acting white" as any "statistically significant racial differences in the relationship between [student] popularity and grades." Participants in student focus groups say that a number of behaviors are condemned as "acting white," including enrollment in honors or advanced placement classes, speaking proper English, wearing the wrong clothes from the wrong stores, or wearing shorts in the winter.

The resulting popularity indexes demonstrate that "the relationship between social status and achievement is categorically different between racial groups, a difference that is robust to changes in specifications, data sub-samples, and definitions of social status or achievement." At a GPA of roughly 2.5, racial differences begin to emerge, and Hispanic students lose popularity rapidly. Popularity peaks at a GPA of about 3.5 for black students. Whites continue to gain popularity as their grades increase. The social cost of "acting white" is more severe for black males than for black females. It is larger for blacks in public schools, but nonexistent for blacks in private schools, "a finding that may partially explain why black kids in private schools do especially well." Finally, the burden imposed for "acting white" is greater for students with more interracial contact. Blacks in more segregated schools "incur less of a trade off between popularity and achievement." The toll for "acting white" is "particularly salient among high achievers and those in schools with more interracial contact."
Acting White

It has zero to do with any of that shyt. It comes down to putting greater value on Whiteness than Blackness. I grew up on the West Side of Chicago in the 80's and 90's. Nobody shamed somebody for being smart. Nobody shamed Black people for knowing about African history or African American history. Nobody was shamed for being good at math or science. Nobody was shamed for going to HBCUs. Nobody was shamed for going to any college or university. People were shamed for thinking that White people or acting like White people was better than being from Black people.

So once again people are making up a bunch of shyt.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

shyt literally just happen to my kid at school

hatin on her for liking to read

came home crying

this is what john mcwhorter use to write about, the culture of anti-intellectualism

he theorized this as the driving force in black academic underachievement

 

[big bun]

It was just jokes back in the day.

 

[UpAndComing]

Y'all telling a goddamn lie.

I remember getting shanked(nikkas would sneak up and stab you with sharpened pencils or pens) for being in the gifted program in middle school. Leaking in 5th period and shyt. Y'all can miss me with this bullshyt you telling.

It was definitely a thing, but today being nerdy and different is embraced...

I mean where do guys think all of the anti-bullying shyt came from? Gay guys prenteded that they were straight, lames pretended that they were cool, nerds dumbed themselves down, poor people pretended that they weren't broke as a joke...

A lot of people weren't allowed to live their best lives due to social conformity.

People must really be brand new up in here.



The social changeup was one of the themes of 21 Jump Street LOL

Also, it was worse in the black community because the culture was more monolithic.

100% truth

For me personally, the ONLY advantage I had in school was that I never looked or acted like a stereotypical Nerd/Geek. But they deff tried hard to make fun of that I did good in school. The most vivid memory was in History class when I was answering all the questions in class raising my hand, etc, and one dude literally got up off his seat and started flexing and cursing at me for knowing all the answers, and ready to fight me until the teacher calmed him down

People on here lying like this shyt don't happen, lying they ass off

 

[Scottie Drippin]

Smart =/= Nerdy

And nerdy kids always get bullied.

 

[Samori Toure]

These posters lying to themselves.

Kids would roast you for your haircut or your clothes, or for no reason at all... but suddenly have noble respect for nerds? Lol

Getting roasted on happened to a lot of people, but that didn't mean that the roasters didn't value education. Roasters were usually jealous dudes with low self esteem. They probably couldn't see shyt for you, because they couldn't see it for themselves.

People are forevermore trying to equate people with low self esteem to all Black people. The two groups are not the same. Black people built HBCUs so you know that they value education.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Now apparently every Coli nikka was a brilliant nerd/athlete/cool down-to-Earth hood nikka who never saw a single person get made fun of for being bookish

Again, most nerds, really smart kids, are squares, and it continues into adulthood. Most find their niche, and have outside interests, but now we’re shifting everything again

they're lying because they did the shyt that's why.

 

[Samori Toure]

They do that in rural white private schools if you're black and smart but everybody keeps talmbat black people in the hood...even though most of y'all grew up in white suburbia.

I know about ALL of these environments, multiple regions.
Does it happen? Depends on where/who you are...

These dudes don't know anything about that shyt, because they probably never lived in places like that. They also don't know anything about White people that are insecure about their own intelligence around an intelligent Black man. If they want to know what that shyt is like then they don't need to look any further than how Trump views Obama. They would shed a whole new light on that shyt for nikkas.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

nikkas who had 6x dragonball button ups talmbat "they clowned me because I was smart"


Nope, they getting on that mustard stain you've had on that tucked in white tee since YESTERDAY.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

this is what john mcwhorter use to write about, the culture of anti-intellectualism

he theorized this as the driving force in black academic underachievement

He went to a rich, private quaker school in Philly...speaking down from a sheltered place.

 

[Eddy Gordo]

this is what john mcwhorter use to write about, the culture of anti-intellectualism

this is what he theorized is the driving force in black academic underachievement

I personally think that anti-intellectual culture is one our greatest weaknesses as black people.

We shyt on young men pursuing knowledge then confused on why more boys don't Excell in school.


Talk shyt about these dudes and threaten em with violence. Then trying to figure out why 1/3 of black male newlyweds with a bachelor's degree marry out.

Ostracized nikkas from the community then wonder why they don't care about helping the community.

We plant the seeds to our own failures

 

[Curioser]

I'm starting to think that it's maybe a generational thing because I graduated in this decade and that is what my experience comes from.

It probably is, my daughter goes to a school (granted not in the hood but still has a fair amount of lower ses). Her school is like Disneyland. Everyone loves everyone, inclusion, no bullying... I saw one of her classmates and he looks lik3 a goof and she was in shock... that’s bullying Dad...