I have to Admit, Kanye West is the Total Package

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OnlyInCalifornia

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so the only way to deliver a message of anti-consumerism is if you've lived a life of purity from the beginning,

Stop with the over the top exaggerations talking about 'purity from the begging'. You can't call yourself the Louis Vutton Don, brag about driving a Maybach while others rent them, and be the poster child for consumerism in March....then speak against it like May. It doesn't work like that.

Aint nobody mad at all, except maybe Kanye West stans who don't quite understand why no one is buying this bs :childplease:
 

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he's never shied away from his hypocrisy. did yall even listen to college dropout? the point being, the OP spoke on everything but the man's music. he didn't even touch upon anything said by kanye in new slaves or black skinhead.

I own the album, on vinyl, and was listening to it the other day. Just because he's been a hypocrite doesn't mean that he gets a pass to continue to be one. Especially when last month he was telling us about how his Mercialago is so awesome and now its 'oh black people just want nice cars' :what:


so, honestly, who cares what he has to say about kanye? he can't drum up a substantive critique of kanye's content, limiting his criticism to a character assassination that reeks of jealousy.

My quote was about Kanye, not Walt. He is entitled to his opinion.

And 'character assasination' and 'reeks of jealous' is so over the top corny I really don't know how to respond to you. He left his two cents on the counter breh. He didn't pay to have this letter up in the NY Times full page ad.

You don't have to be jealous of a person to realize they talk out of both sides of their mouth, really.
 

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Yeah if i was as blown away and as genuinely wowed as you (and all the usual popular pundits) appear to be by the actual music it wouldn't matter...but my actual reaction to the music has been :yeshrug: ...gave my take in another thread



So while it's commendable that he tries...the results aren't NEARLY as impressive enough to not kinda laugh of the absurdity of everything around it....like, especially when you have these media types that lose whatever guarded sense of cool and objectiveness they have for pretty much every other rapper, and go into full out groupie fan mode...it's something about Kanye and Jay-Z that just kinda brings the groupie out of them...all of this talk about "discourse", when we all know the only "discourse" that will be actually had is how great and awesome and massive of a genius Kanye West is for this amazingly daring and awe inspiring music (which is closer to French Montana than it is to other more capable rappers recent attempts in similar directions, see: Lupe, Killer Mike's last lp's or even Nas' Untitled and these aren't super obscure underground acts)....projecting forward a couple of months, what do you think will get inspire more discourse:

Kanye's profound and eye opening in depth analysis of the DEA

or

OMG Look at the designer onesie KimYe's baby is wearing to Fashion Week in Paris this summer :krs:

Kanye doesn't actually have the breadth or depth to ACTUALLY inspire any kind of substantive discourse about much more than himself and fashion

Kanye has the same element that made Pac such a powerful figure

Passion

When Kanye is on the mic his passion behind that mic is unrivaled

Call him a diva call him contrived.
watever

But when Kanye raps especially with New Slaves as an example
U can feel passion behind each bar that the katz u named cant do

Pac wasnt wowing mufcka with double entendres and crazy metaphors and all lat

But when he spoke/rapped whether he was a hypocrite when his words were put next to his personal life, u felt passion and raw emotion and genuineness behind those words:ohlawd:


Nooow @Walt WHERE ARE THOSE ESSAYS ON HYPOCRITICAL ASS NAS AND PAC THE 2 MOST CELEBRATED HIP HOP ARTISTS ON THIS BOARD:ohlawd:
 
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Walt is great poster and that was very well written

BUT only God can judge Kanye and he's a very talented artist and I enjoy his music so that's all that matters to me...

:manny:
 

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kanye is a impostor to the nth degree. here's a man who got upset about Beyonce not winning an MTV award...only Kanye would even remotely care about such a trivial, stupid issue.

that man is not out of touch with african americans...he's out of touch with everyone. this man would literally let versace nut on his face just to say it happened. dude is the living embodiment of Tony Stark, except Tony Stark is funny. Would be great if some Afghan terrorists kidnapped him and kept him captive for a few weeks...probably would calm his b1tch ass down.
 

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u cant buy into passion u either feel it behind the words or dont

Its a matter of delivery

and in that sense Pac and Ye are masters of this:youngsabo:

His forced, awkward rap moves where he tries to sell that he's "feeling it" are so bad and weak. It's hard to watch. The frontman of Midnight Oil was less affected than the fukkboy Ye.
 

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Sucks that he won't act the way you want him to act. Ye ain't worried about you ******. Yet you're sittin down writing sonnets and soliloquies about this *****.. FOH
:youngsabo:

YEEZUS
 
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