Devil worshippers are fukking idiots bruh.
How you gonna be a human being and worship entitites that hate your guts.
God said bow down to US, human beings and angels said fukk outta here and God said
I just had a rather extensive conversation with a Satanist at Tam's Burgers.
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legend has it that most of rocks
floating around in space are what
remains of lucifer's own heaven
he created before angles touched down
and tore that shyt up.
floating around in space are what
remains of lucifer's own heaven
he created before angles touched down
and tore that shyt up.
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In IslamAlot of religions tell you that it is against the religion itself to learn about other religions.
Ask a christian about something from the book of Mormon or the Quran and they will dismiss it outrigt cause its not from their book.
Only religion does that though.
Imagine if your science professor told you don't read your math book cause its blaspheme and lies. Or if he said science only works if you accept science into your heart.
It's proper to learn about all faiths
LolTryna think...
I don't remember him saying that. But he also never really said that Satan was 'good' either. He was just giving his perspective on who was right/wrong in their falling out.
To be honest, if he had started talking like "Have you accepted our dark lord and master into your soul" or something I woulda been like
but he was more just recapping events from the bible and adding his/their take.
I didn't know he was a satanist til several minutes in.
See, my name is Michael. So when I walked into the food place the cashier was like "What up Mike" and then immediately the satanist dude turned around and was like thats a powerful name. And I was like yeah, Michael was the archangel that cast Satan out of heaven. But that was the wrong thing to say cause he immediately started going in aboit how Satan got a bad wrap
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Crazy stuffSee thats even worse than what I remember from the bible.
According to that, Satan isn't even being subversive. If he challenges god like you indicate and god accepts, they just made a wager that both parties were okay with. So then when Adam & Eve do what Satan said theuy would and god looses the bet god punishes Adam and Eve.
There is no real way to spin that so it isn't messed up.
He made a bet, lost, then Mike Vick'd his dogs for losing basically... and Adam and Eve were the dogs.
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K.Dot
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You got finessed breh. Satan to Satanist is just a fancier version of this guy
Satanism is about living your life anyway you want as long as you aren't hurting others. That's it. All the religious shyt they do is just for play, they think it looks cool. Tell a Satanist you're a spiritual person or that you believe in any God and watch them hit you with the"". Pop culture Satanism isn't real Satanism.
when he said Atlantis existed.
Satanism is about living your life anyway you want as long as you aren't hurting others. That's it. All the religious shyt they do is just for play, they think it looks cool. Tell a Satanist you're a spiritual person or that you believe in any God and watch them hit you with the"
". Pop culture Satanism isn't real Satanism.Just read this whole thing, fukking
when he said Atlantis existed.
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notPsychosiz
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You got finessed breh. Satan to Satanist is just a fancier version of this guy
Satanism is about living your life anyway you want as long as you aren't hurting others. That's it. All the religious shyt they do is just for play, they think it looks cool. Tell a Satanist you're a spiritual person or that you believe in any God and watch them hit you with the"
Just read this whole thing, fukking
I understand what you are saying, and there are certainly people like that. But that doesn't line up with the person I met.
Also... that original picture of god touching fingers with that dude is hilarious cause god gave him a micropenis and is pointing at him like
which does support the theory that god was an a-hole.
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Did he try to recruit or proselytize? Did he say there is any harm or punishment for not following satan?
notPsychosiz
I started this gangsta sh-
That depends.
He was trying to convince me of his opinion, yes. But he wasn't very aggressive... just adamant.
He didn't mention what rules/punishments he abides by, if any. But we didn't get that far.
Once I identified him as a Satanist the questions I asked were 1) what book do they use, and he said the bible... then 2) do you consider yourself evil?
On the second question is where he started explaining his reasoning for satan not being evil just being the victim of god's ego.
Then shortly after that I asked him his thoughts on time travel as it relates to Noah's arc (a personal theory which I mentioned before in a religion thread around here somewhere) then he said that is profound and he had never considered that, then my food was ready and I dipped out.
K.Dot
African American
Those people are called devil worshipper's, not Satanist.I understand what you are saying, and there are certainly people like that. But that doesn't line up with the person I met.
Also... that original picture of god touching fingers with that dude is hilarious cause god gave him a micropenis and is pointing at him like
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Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer. The tradition, influenced by Gnosticism, usually reveres Lucifer not as the devil, but as a liberator, a guardian or guiding spirit, or even the true god as opposed to Jehovah.
Lucifer as a literary and religious character
article: Lucifer
Lucifer is the King James Version rendering of the Hebrew word הֵילֵלin Isaiah 14:12. This word, transliterated hêlêl or heylel, occurs once in the Hebrew Bible and according to the KJV-based Strong's Concordance means "shining one, light-bearer". The Septuagint renders הֵילֵל in Greek as ἑωσφόρος (heōsphoros), a name, literally "bringer of dawn", for the morning star. The word Lucifer is taken from the Latin Vulgate, which translates הֵילֵל as lucifer, meaning "the morning star, the planet Venus", or, as an adjective, "light-bringing".
Later Christian tradition came to use the Latin word for "morning star", lucifer, as a proper name ("Lucifer") for the devil; as he was before his fall. As a result, "'Lucifer'' has become a by-word for Satan/the Devil in the church and in popular literature", as in Dante Alighieri'z Inferno, Joost van den Vondel's Lucifer and John Milton's Paradise Lost. However, the Latin word never came to be used almost exclusively, as in English, in this way, and was applied to others also, including Jesus. The image of a morning star fallen from the sky is generally believed among scholars to have a parallel in Canaanite mythology
However, according to both Christian and Jewish exegesis, in the Book of Isaiah, chapter 14, the King of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar II, conqueror of Jerusalem, is condemned in a prophetic vision by the prophet Isaiah and is called the "Morning Star" (planet Venus). In this chapter the Hebrew text says הֵילֵל בֶּן-שָׁחַר (Helel ben Shachar, "shining one, son of the morning"). "Helel ben Shahar" may refer to the Morning Star, but the text in Isaiah 14 gives no indication that Helel was a star or planet.
General beliefs
Although sometimes mistakenly associated with Satanism due to the Christian interpretation of the fallen angel, Luciferianism is a wholly different belief system and does not revere the devil figure or most characteristics typically affixed to Satan. Rather, Lucifer in this context is seen as one of many morning stars, a symbol of enlightenment, independence and human progression, and is often used interchangeably with similar figures from a range of ancient beliefs, such as the Greek titan Prometheus or the Jewish talmudicfigure Lilith.
They support the protection of the natural world. Both the arts and sciences are crucial to human development, and thus both are cherished. Luciferians think that humans should be focused on this life and how to make the most of it every single day. The ability to recognize both good and evil, to accept that all actions have consequences, both positive and negative, and to actively influence one's environment, is a key factor.
For Luciferians, enlightenment is the ultimate goal. The basic Luciferian principles highlight truth and freedom of will, worshipping the inner self and one’s ultimate potential. Traditional dogma is shunned as a basis for morality on the grounds that humans should not need deities or fear of eternal punishment to distinguish right from wrong and to do good. All ideas should be tested before being accepted, and even then one should remain skeptical because knowledge and understanding are fluid. Regardless of whether Lucifer is conceived of as a deity or as a mere archetype, he is a representation of ultimate knowledge and exploration: humanity’s savior and a champion for continuing personal growth.
Theistic Luciferianism
Some Luciferians believe in Lucifer as an actual deity, not to be worshipped as the Judeo-Christian God but to be revered and followed as a teacher and friend, as a rescuer or guiding spirit, or even the one true god as opposed to the traditional creator of Judaism. Theistic Luciferians are followers of the Left-Hand Path and may adhere to different dogmata put forth by organizations such as the Neo-Luciferian Church or other congregations that are heavily focused on ceremonial magic, the occult and literal interpretations of spiritual stories and figures.
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I started this gangsta sh-
Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer. The tradition, influenced by Gnosticism, usually reveres Lucifer not as the devil, but as a liberator, a guardian or guiding spirit, or even the true god as opposed to Jehovah.
Lucifer as a literary and religious character
article: Lucifer
Lucifer is the King James Version rendering of the Hebrew word הֵילֵלin Isaiah 14:12. This word, transliterated hêlêl or heylel, occurs once in the Hebrew Bible and according to the KJV-based Strong's Concordance means "shining one, light-bearer". The Septuagint renders הֵילֵל in Greek as ἑωσφόρος (heōsphoros), a name, literally "bringer of dawn", for the morning star. The wordLucifer is taken from the Latin Vulgate, which translates הֵילֵל aslucifer, meaning "the morning star, the planet Venus", or, as an adjective, "light-bringing".
Later Christian tradition came to use the Latin word for "morning star", lucifer, as a proper name ("Lucifer") for the devil; as he was before his fall. As a result, "'Lucifer'' has become a by-word for Satan/the Devil in the church and in popular literature", as in Dante Alighieri'z Inferno, Joost van den Vondel's Lucifer and John Milton's Paradise Lost. However, the Latin word never came to be used almost exclusively, as in English, in this way, and was applied to others also, including Jesus. The image of a morning star fallen from the sky is generally believed among scholars to have a parallel in Canaanite mythology
However, according to both Christian and Jewish exegesis, in the Book of Isaiah, chapter 14, the King of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar II, conqueror of Jerusalem, is condemned in a prophetic vision by the prophet Isaiah and is called the "Morning Star" (planet Venus). In this chapter the Hebrew text says הֵילֵל בֶּן-שָׁחַר (Helel ben Shachar, "shining one, son of the morning"). "Helel ben Shahar" may refer to the Morning Star, but the text in Isaiah 14 gives no indication that Helel was a star or planet.
General beliefs
Although sometimes mistakenly associated with Satanism due to the Christian interpretation of the fallen angel, Luciferianism is a wholly different belief system and does not revere the devil figure or most characteristics typically affixed to Satan. Rather, Lucifer in this context is seen as one of many morning stars, a symbol of enlightenment, independence and human progression, and is often used interchangeably with similar figures from a range of ancient beliefs, such as the Greek titan Prometheus or the Jewish talmudicfigure Lilith.
They support the protection of the natural world. Both the arts and sciences are crucial to human development, and thus both are cherished. Luciferians think that humans should be focused on this life and how to make the most of it every single day. The ability to recognize both good and evil, to accept that all actions have consequences, both positive and negative, and to actively influence one's environment, is a key factor.
For Luciferians, enlightenment is the ultimate goal. The basic Luciferian principles highlight truth and freedom of will, worshipping the inner self and one’s ultimate potential. Traditional dogma is shunned as a basis for morality on the grounds that humans should not need deities or fear of eternal punishment to distinguish right from wrong and to do good. All ideas should be tested before being accepted, and even then one should remain skeptical because knowledge and understanding are fluid. Regardless of whether Lucifer is conceived of as a deity or as a mere archetype, he is a representation of ultimate knowledge and exploration: humanity’s savior and a champion for continuing personal growth.
Theistic Luciferianism
Some Luciferians believe in Lucifer as an actual deity, not to be worshipped as the Judeo-Christian God but to be revered and followed as a teacher and friend, as a rescuer or guiding spirit, or even the one true god as opposed to the traditional creator of Judaism. Theistic Luciferians are followers of the Left-Hand Path and may adhere to different dogmata put forth by organizations such as the Neo-Luciferian Church or other congregations that are heavily focused on ceremonial magic, the occult and literal interpretations of spiritual stories and figures.
Oh..... okay.
See this makes more sense.
Yeah if I had to guess this seems like its what this guy was, so he wasn't actually a satanist.
Although I did specifically ask him if he was a satanist and he said yes.
But thats probably cause he didn't feel like explaining it.
There were hundreds of times where someone would say to me "So, you do rap?" and I'd just say yeah cause I didn't feel like say well actually I do hip hop... so I can see why he didn't bother.
Very informative post breh. Thank You. This better contextualizes what I encountered.
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God Is Not God's Name
Introduction
God is not God's name. That's right. The God of the universe has a name, but "God" isn't it. "God" is what God is. "Human being" is not your name, "Human being" is what you are. You also have a name. Whether it is "Barbara" or "Ken" or "Tom" or "Debbie", you have your own personal name. So does God.
"And what is God's name?" Glad you asked. This writing will help you to recognize the answer.
Before we get too deep into things, here are some hints to get you started. You already know God's name. Oh, yes, there are many, many names people have given to God, but He/She picked one and only one for Him/Herself. God's Real name is the same for all people everywhere. It matters not at all which religion or cultural heritage you are from! Truth transcends all boundaries we seek to erect. And no matter who you are or where you are from, you have known this Name from the day your mind first began to awake. You see it and hear it each and every day.
The problem with God is not that He's so far away that we can't see Him. Rather, He is so close that we overlook Him. Our quest for God is just like fish in search of water. So don't be surprised if you start to recognize God's name everywhere.
Helping you do that is the purpose of this writing.
But God's Real name is not in this document! How's that for strange? Most of this document is about God's personal name, which reveals His Real name, but God's Real name can't be written down in any book.
And that's all the introduction you get.
The Biblical Record
In the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religious/cultural tradition, spanning several millennia and the vast majority of the western world, there is only one acknowledged personal name for God. There are many descriptions (the almighty, the beneficent, etc) but only one personal name of God. The Islamic tradition speaks of the "100 names of Allah", but these are actually titles. The word "Allah" is Arabic for "God", which is English for the Hebrew word "Elohim".
In the entire world's religions there is no revelation or rationalization of God as clear and powerful as the Name that He spoke to Moses. And this personal name is directly related to God's Real name.
In short, the Name God revealed to Moses is the most powerful religious truth in the world, a huge canopy under which all other religions and truths reside.
So enough already! What is this name?
Well, Moses asked the same question. You can find this in the Bible, in the Third chapter of Exodus.
He who is
The self-existent one
He who is ever becoming what He is
Is-ness is is-ness
That may not seem like it says very much. That's because it is a statement of infinite truth.
God's name, the I Am, reveals the fullness of His nature. All of God's nature and attributes are embodied in His name. But at first it seems like air to a bird. "So what's the big deal?" I hope to be able to show you just how big a deal it is, and what it means for you.
To do that we're going to need a brief lesson in linguistics. This may seem confusing, but believe me, this is very important. It goes like this:
To translate is to explain the meaning of one language using the words of another.
To transliterate is to spell a word using the letters of another language.
"I am" is the English translation of the meaning of God's personal name.
The English transliteration of God's personal name isYHWH.
The four Hebrew letters transliterated YHWH are:
a Yod, rhymes with "rode", which we transliterate "Y"
a He, rhymes with "say", which we transliterate "H"
a Vav, like "lava", which we transliterate "W" or "V"
another He
Originally Hebrew (we're talkin' over 3000 years ago, folks!) didn't have any vowels, and was written right to left.
So let's summarize.
God's name, as written in Hebrew right to left:
Spelled left to right:
Transliterated into English: YHWH
With vowels added: YAHWEH
Translated: I AM WHO I AM
There. Now you have all the tools you'll need.
You've heard the saying, "The more things change, the more they stay the same." Well, that's certainly true here. No matter what language you use, whether you translate, transliterate, or what direction you spell, YHWH's name means "I am that I am." And it directly points to His Real name, which is the same in all languages.
So here's the structure of the rest of this writing:
First I'll discuss why this is so important. Just what does "I AM" tell us about YHWH? What are we overlooking?
Introduction
God is not God's name. That's right. The God of the universe has a name, but "God" isn't it. "God" is what God is. "Human being" is not your name, "Human being" is what you are. You also have a name. Whether it is "Barbara" or "Ken" or "Tom" or "Debbie", you have your own personal name. So does God.
"And what is God's name?" Glad you asked. This writing will help you to recognize the answer.
Before we get too deep into things, here are some hints to get you started. You already know God's name. Oh, yes, there are many, many names people have given to God, but He/She picked one and only one for Him/Herself. God's Real name is the same for all people everywhere. It matters not at all which religion or cultural heritage you are from! Truth transcends all boundaries we seek to erect. And no matter who you are or where you are from, you have known this Name from the day your mind first began to awake. You see it and hear it each and every day.
The problem with God is not that He's so far away that we can't see Him. Rather, He is so close that we overlook Him. Our quest for God is just like fish in search of water. So don't be surprised if you start to recognize God's name everywhere.
Helping you do that is the purpose of this writing.
But God's Real name is not in this document! How's that for strange? Most of this document is about God's personal name, which reveals His Real name, but God's Real name can't be written down in any book.
And that's all the introduction you get.
The Biblical Record
In the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religious/cultural tradition, spanning several millennia and the vast majority of the western world, there is only one acknowledged personal name for God. There are many descriptions (the almighty, the beneficent, etc) but only one personal name of God. The Islamic tradition speaks of the "100 names of Allah", but these are actually titles. The word "Allah" is Arabic for "God", which is English for the Hebrew word "Elohim".
In the entire world's religions there is no revelation or rationalization of God as clear and powerful as the Name that He spoke to Moses. And this personal name is directly related to God's Real name.
In short, the Name God revealed to Moses is the most powerful religious truth in the world, a huge canopy under which all other religions and truths reside.
So enough already! What is this name?
Well, Moses asked the same question. You can find this in the Bible, in the Third chapter of Exodus.
- 1 Now Moses was pasturing the flock of Jethro His father-in-law, the priest of Midian; and He led the flock to the west side of the wilderness, and came to Horeb, the mountain of God.
- 2 And the Angel of the Lord appeared to him in a blazing fire from the midst of a bush; and He looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, yet the bush was not consumed.
- 3 So Moses said, "I must turn aside now, and see this marvelous sight, why the bush is not burned up."
- 4 When the Lord saw that he turned aside to look, God called to him from the midst of the bush, and said, "Moses, Moses!" And Moses said, "Here I am."
- 5 Then God said, "Do not come near here; remove your sandals from your feet, for the place on which you are standing is holy ground."
- 6 He said also, "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Issac, and the God of Jacob." Then Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.
- 7 And the Lord said, "I have seen the affliction of my people who are in Egypt, and have given heed to their cry because of their taskmasters, for I am aware of their sufferings.
- 8 "So I have come down to deliver them from the power of the Egyptians, and to bring them up from that land to a good and spacious land, to a land flowing with milk and honey, to the place of the Canaanite and the Hittite and the Amorite and the Perrizite and the Hivite and the Jebusite.
- 9 And now, behold, the cry of the sons of Israel has come to me; furthermore, I have seen the oppression with which the Egyptians are oppressing them.
- 10 Therefore, come now, and I will send you to Pharaoh, so that you may bring my people, the sons of Israel, out of Egypt."
- 11 But Moses said to God, "Who am I, that I should go to Pharaoh, and that I should bring the sons of Israel out of Egypt?"
- 12 And He said, "Certainly I will be with you, and this shall be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: when you have brought the people out of Egypt, you shall worship God at this mountain."
- 13 Then Moses said to God, "Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I shall say to them, `The God of your fathers has sent me to you.' Now they may say to me, `What is His name?' What shall I say to them?"
- 14 And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM"; and He said, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, `I AM has sent me to you.'"
- 15 And God, furthermore, said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, `The Lord, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial-name to all generations."
He who is
The self-existent one
He who is ever becoming what He is
Is-ness is is-ness
That may not seem like it says very much. That's because it is a statement of infinite truth.
God's name, the I Am, reveals the fullness of His nature. All of God's nature and attributes are embodied in His name. But at first it seems like air to a bird. "So what's the big deal?" I hope to be able to show you just how big a deal it is, and what it means for you.
To do that we're going to need a brief lesson in linguistics. This may seem confusing, but believe me, this is very important. It goes like this:
To translate is to explain the meaning of one language using the words of another.
To transliterate is to spell a word using the letters of another language.
"I am" is the English translation of the meaning of God's personal name.
The English transliteration of God's personal name isYHWH.
The four Hebrew letters transliterated YHWH are:
Originally Hebrew (we're talkin' over 3000 years ago, folks!) didn't have any vowels, and was written right to left.
So let's summarize.
God's name, as written in Hebrew right to left:
Spelled left to right:
Transliterated into English: YHWH
With vowels added: YAHWEH
Translated: I AM WHO I AM
There. Now you have all the tools you'll need.
You've heard the saying, "The more things change, the more they stay the same." Well, that's certainly true here. No matter what language you use, whether you translate, transliterate, or what direction you spell, YHWH's name means "I am that I am." And it directly points to His Real name, which is the same in all languages.
So here's the structure of the rest of this writing:
First I'll discuss why this is so important. Just what does "I AM" tell us about YHWH? What are we overlooking?