I just realized how dumb you have to be to not think God created us

[Chesirecatdaddy]

im gonna chill because i always give myself a headache when i talk about this. but you can break things down non stop for a zillion years but you will reach a point where you cant explain any further. you can tell me what composes a proton, then i could ask where those materials come from and so on and so forth. telling me that all this happened by chance is waaaaaay more ridiculous to me then telling me it all results from intelligent design...

Exactly

the funny shyt is that when you break it down it just keeps breaking down more and more... and what it breaks down to just keeps resembling what it was composed of before it.

Not only that but we find a certain pattern in all things.. and while some people will argue that a repeating pattern found in all things means nothing... it's definitely a clue.

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

why can't you address the topic at hand and keep focused...

Bottomline is your brain is not more powerful than the universe breh give it a rest, science is based on observation.. Life is still and will continue to be ambiguous

 

[Amulet of Immortality]

I feel the chance of a creator of "our" world is higher than 50%; however, I also feel that there's a chance I'm wrong. If you think about it, once you're born, your destiny is already predetermined by your genetics and the environment in which shapes you and your already instilled genetics.

 

[TrueAlphaMale]

Believe in fairy tales that are thousands of years old brehs

Nit pick things from the bible brehs

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

im gonna chill because i always give myself a headache when i talk about this. but you can break things down non stop for a zillion years but you will reach a point where you cant explain any further. you can tell me what composes a proton, then i could ask where those materials come from and so on and so forth. telling me that all this happened by chance is waaaaaay more ridiculous to me then telling me it all results from intelligent design...

i have taken organic chemistry and it just left me with the question how the fukk does all this "just happen"

Intelligent design doesn't answer anything my dude.

saying "god did it" doesn't get you anywhere.

Thats the point.

Knowing that it goes deeper is better than asserting that your "god" did it.

NOT having an answer is better than asserting some stop-gap answer that doesn't allow you to learn anything.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Bottomline is your brain is not more powerful than the universe breh give it a rest, science is based on observation.. Life is still and will continue to be ambiguous

this statement doesn't make any sense.

How do you compare or even assert "power" in terms of a brain that is the result of evolutionary pressures and neuronal stimuli in relation to "the universe"

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Listen by default God would be the creator of all these things since he created the system that houses and sustains all these things... he would be the designer.

prove it.

This is a statement you're asserting.

Back it up.

Imagine If I created a videogame/simulation and gave everything functions and attributes... now they function on their own.. am I not still their creator?

Theres no evidence to assert that this applies to our universe.

I am and that will never change.... so you're focusing your argument on the wrong thing because that's not how these things were mean to be interpreted... that's how some people and a more primitive people used to interpret it... You argue about the way people saw shyt a long time ago. It doesn't matter if the characters in my simulation figure out that the functions I have created are responsible for certain actions in their world or even why I made it that way.

This is a hypothetical and has not been demonstrated to exist.

If you saw "wreck it ralph" then you'd understand that AT LEAST the game characters knew they were in another universe because they had the ability to experience the outside world.

You have nothing else to compare this to.

and your little spiel about wave-particle making sense or not making sense means nothing... wave particle theory exists and that's all that matters. You need an observer for things to exist..

False. Perception is not reality.

as long as that holds true you will never close the Creator box. It doesn't matter if the creator is the God of the bible, some alien, A computer programmer, some kinda of consciousness,etc.

Again, this statement doesn't make sense.

You want to assert your deity, withuot even confirming the existence of your deity.

You keep building on unsubstantiated assertions and claims.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I've had this back and forth with you before, its pointless. good day sir.

So don't think your halfassed answers will work.

Make better arguments and we can be more productive.

 

[ThatTruth777]

The universe is so vast its overwhelming breh, whose to say what occurred for Earth wasn't a coincidence.

Just random vids:

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

prove it.

This is a statement you're asserting.

Back it up.

Theres no evidence to assert that this applies to our universe.



This is a hypothetical and has not been demonstrated to exist.

If you saw "wreck it ralph" then you'd understand that AT LEAST the game characters knew they were in another universe because they had the ability to experience the outside world.

You have nothing else to compare this to.

False. Perception is not reality.



Again, this statement doesn't make sense.

You want to assert your deity, withuot even confirming the existence of your deity.

You keep building on unsubstantiated assertions and claims.

It's called faith b, you can use science to figure out how everything works. It's not as if anyone is stopping you and it's not as if someone is forbidding you from doing so. Science has it's place and so does belief in a creator. As a matter of fact some belief systems encourage the acquisition of knowledge:

You'll always keep learning how certain things work and what makes up certain things... but you will always be left with more questions than answers. Since science is based on observation, and humans perception is very limited you will always have to rely on other means,basically technology, to observe what is all around you. There are tons of things going on all around you at all times that we haven't been able to observe.. so therefore I guess it's not real then? Those things just don't exist?

Dude consciousness has an effect on how our reality behaves so how the hell is our conscious not reality? It affects reality. This would also mean that there was an extra observer maintaining how reality functions at all times. An observer that can see all things simultaneously.

You do this at least once a week and it's always the same thing.


Shout to @BrothaZay ... you know wtf u were doing when u made this troll thread LOL

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It's called faith b,

Thats a poor excuse to rationalize what you know to be obvious bullshyt.

you can use science to figure out how everything works.

You don't get to do that when you keep depending on faith. Where does it end with you? Its all cool to ask hard questions until you don't wanna challenge this one thing?

It's not as if anyone is stopping you and it's not as if someone is forbidding you from doing so. Science has it's place and so does belief in a creator.

Science has its place. Belief in unsubstantiated falsehoods does not...especially since you aren't comfortable even confirming it.

As a matter of fact some belief systems encourage the acquisition of knowledge:

Who cares? you don't need a "belief system" to encourage you to actually confirm specious claims.

You'll always keep learning how certain things work and what makes up certain things... but you will always be left with more questions than answers.

which sounds like a MARVELOUS thing.

Since science is based on observation, and humans perception is very limited you will always have to rely on other means,basically technology, to observe what is all around you. There are tons of things going on all around you at all times that we haven't been able to observe.. so therefore I guess it's not real then? Those things just don't exist?

So?

Thats the point. TO continue learning.

You can't technically SEE X-rays, but we confirm their existence all the time.

You're relying on ambiguity and incorrectly asserting that its an "opposite" to this debate when in fact, it has no place in this discussion.

Dude consciousness has an effect on how our reality behaves so how the hell is our conscious not reality? It affects reality.

False. This premise doesn't make any sense.

Your perception of reality, while it may be convienent, is not actually reality.

You can only perceive directly the image in the middle. Birds can see other parts of this...so can some insects and even species of shrimp.

This is the point:

This would also mean that there was an extra observer maintaining how reality functions at all times. An observer that can see all things simultaneously.

This does NOT make any sense.

How does this mean that there "MUST" be something external????

You've been introduced to the concept of a god and are always trying to stick it in there without actually seeing if such a concept makes sense to even include!!!

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The universe is so vast its overwhelming breh, whose to say what occurred for Earth wasn't a coincidence.

Just random vids:

Because until you have confirmed that it was "intentional" you don't get to keep saying that it was.

 

[Why-Fi]

Intelligent design doesn't answer anything my dude.

saying "god did it" doesn't get you anywhere.

Thats the point.

Knowing that it goes deeper is better than asserting that your "god" did it.

NOT having an answer is better than asserting some stop-gap answer that doesn't allow you to learn anything.

if I just said god begins when the ability to explain stops, why are you arguing the point with me that god doesn't explain anything? saying "god did it" isn't supposed to get you anywhere. THATS the point

if the idea of god does not defy or exceed our reasoning, then why would we need it? reasoning is something we do as humans, god is supposed something beyond that. that's why people use "faith" and "belief" in reference to it.

that the problem with people who don't believe in god. because god doesn't compute with your reasoning it can't exist. again saying that nothing can exist if you can't explain it makes a lot less sense than belief that there is at least one thing that can

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

Thats a poor excuse to rationalize what you know to be obvious bullshyt.

]You don't get to do that when you keep depending on faith. Where does it end with you? Its all cool to ask hard questions until you don't wanna challenge this one thing?

Science has its place. Belief in unsubstantiated falsehoods does not...especially since you aren't comfortable even confirming it.

Who cares? you don't need a "belief system" to encourage you to actually confirm specious claims.

which sounds like a MARVELOUS thing.
So?

Thats the point. TO continue learning.

You seem to believe that everyone who believes in God is some Bible Belt Moron who thinks science should be banished. Nobody said you needed a belief system to do these things... I said some belief systems encourage it. Of course people were trying to figure things out before these belief systems ever even existed... and yes it's a marvelous thing. You're living under the false notion that because Myself and others who believe in God are some lazy fukks who challenge nothing because we have faith . I'm a Muslim and the Qur'an tells me to challenge whatever it is I read and know about God. The difference between me and you is that the belief in God is the one thing I don't wait for us to substantiate for me to believe in. You're telling me what I get to do with faith now? shyt is fukking laughable... The Guidelines for me are very clear... you don't get to make the rules within which I operate.

You can't technically SEE X-rays, but we confirm their existence all the time.

You're relying on ambiguity and incorrectly asserting that its an "opposite" to this debate when in fact, it has no place in this discussion.

False. This premise doesn't make any sense.

Your perception of reality, while it may be convienent, is not actually reality.

You can only perceive directly the image in the middle. Birds can see other parts of this...so can some insects and even species of shrimp.
This is the point:

This does NOT make any sense.

How does this mean that there "MUST" be something external????

Wow too bad animals and insects aren't in the field of science... they could've made things a lot easier... Again you didn't negate the shyt I said... you repeated it. Right now the most advanced field of science is pointing towards something external.. nobody cares if it makes you feel uncomfortable.

[QUOTEYou've been introduced to the concept of a god and are always trying to stick it in there without actually seeing if such a concept makes sense to even include!!![/quote]
False at one point I was an agnostic.. I went through some experiences and here I am... but of course I'm sure you'd attribute that to delusions or something "chemical" lolz

 

[Mr. Somebody]

We live on a rock floating in the middle of a void

But the concept of a creator makes no sense