Un-AmericanDreamer
Simp City
So we gonna pretend that Andre 3000 don't exist?
I just realized that Kanye killed hiphop
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the cac mamba
Veteran
Richard Wright
Living Legend
elaborate
People dont buy albums. This bothers artists significantly more than they let on these days. Like when limewire and napster first got hot, artists spoke out against them. They tried to say they were 'all about music' until the checks started getting smaller. This lack of album sales led to the labels taking more control to try to make money back. This led to the 360 deals and shyt. The lack of album sales also killed royalties. This created a 'race to the bottom' of free mixtapes and cheap beats.
One of my favorite artists is French Montana( I know he isnt Nas or Rakim). With his mix tape and album I created 'Excuse my French 1.5' using the Harry Fraud songs, sanctuary, and the highlights from the album. This sounds and vibes way better than his album. Why? Because he knew his album sales would be low regardless, so why pay for the samples? New York has basically been 'dead' (still some dope artists, shout out to the Coli's Noah Caine). because no one wants to pay to clear samples.
If people dont buy your product, it hurts. Its no coincidence that people are saying real hip hop is coming back as album sales increase( Born Sinner, GKMC).
youngmeezy
Rookie
He was with Big Boi who (while being incredibly talented) was cliche southern rap.
And now Kanye as fake & using as many gimmicks as ya favorite smack dvd rapper, there are plenty of gangsta rappers being themselves.
Im cool with giving Kanye his props but nikkas from the suburbs get too comfortable & try to throw the sub genre that gave this music most of it's classics under the bus, na homie, sorry idgaf how 'real' you think Kanye & his sons in the game are, they ain't hitting me like Jim Jones come home with me verse or Pac's Pain.
The worst part about Kanye's influence is eroding the ghetto's influence on the culture, to the point where a emerging rapper like Asap Rocky gotta look more Soho than Harlem to get poppin. fukk that.
DATMAN$
Pro
when the general public picked 50cent over kanye
Big Mel
@bigboss
Think about it before you make a post
I had a post about this like 7 tears ago. Kanye is a scourge.
when 50 lost that bet to kanye
the door got left wide open and the soft shyt (and i ain't saying all of it is bad,but..)was allowed to sneek in.
now they got all comfortable and are doing some revisionist historian shyt like all gangsta rap was fake and being a strong black male is something to be ashamed of,etc...
NO!!!
some gangsta rap glorified it, and yeah some of it was straight corny at times.
but at the same time some of it was commentary on how bad it is in the hood.
hip hop at least did not sugarcoat shyt . but at the same time you had acts like de la soul and many more, for example, that could exist in the same time frame.
radio back in the day was proof of the balance that existed in hip hop. now you hear the same song for 2 hours straight!
nowadays street rappers have little to no chance at all!!
THERE IS NO BALANCE AT ALL!!!!
just my view on it!!!
the door got left wide open and the soft shyt (and i ain't saying all of it is bad,but..)was allowed to sneek in.
now they got all comfortable and are doing some revisionist historian shyt like all gangsta rap was fake and being a strong black male is something to be ashamed of,etc...
NO!!!
some gangsta rap glorified it, and yeah some of it was straight corny at times.
but at the same time some of it was commentary on how bad it is in the hood.
hip hop at least did not sugarcoat shyt . but at the same time you had acts like de la soul and many more, for example, that could exist in the same time frame.
radio back in the day was proof of the balance that existed in hip hop. now you hear the same song for 2 hours straight!
nowadays street rappers have little to no chance at all!!
THERE IS NO BALANCE AT ALL!!!!
just my view on it!!!
Urbanmiracle
Brooklyn the planet...
Balance? Street rap dominated for decades and finally fell off because of all this fresh out of jail mixtape smack DVD rappers who had no talent. Atleast back then, street rap was poetics. Those rappers still treated rap as an artist as well as a hustle. Now these street rappers just hustle and bullshyt their way into these deals and never put out albums.
As far as kanye is concern, he did a great thing for rap. He made it ok for regular guys to be rappers. You didn't have to be a drug kingpin to be considered a serious rapper. Thank god for that. You can still be from the streets but not thug it out.
As far as kanye is concern, he did a great thing for rap. He made it ok for regular guys to be rappers. You didn't have to be a drug kingpin to be considered a serious rapper. Thank god for that. You can still be from the streets but not thug it out.
Sausageman
Banned
Lil gayne destroyed rap, Kanye is a legend
you think there is balance in the game right now???
Urbanmiracle
Brooklyn the planet...
More balanced than it was back before kanye. Especially thanks to the Internet, the game is wide open. As far as mainstream, you got Drake, Rick Ross, kanye, Kendrick, jay, Jeezy and a few others who rep different styles of rap. Not just thug rapper 12 or weirdo rapper 15.
Kanye did end up having a bad influence after a certain point. Started off positively on the whole.
Sausageman
Banned
When? I blame Wayne for the most part...
The_King_of_Everything
Yeah.
Rap killed hiphop.