I just realized that Kanye killed hiphop

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the fakeness killed it. people not really going through the struggle.

that's how the best music made....when you actually going through in life.......its no realness in mainstream hip hop.


there are people in the underground but people don't support them. but they steady claim they want real hip hop. I think the mainstream consumers just want party for this minute. I think it will change....music always does bruh.


also like rakim said....."new York style hip hop is dead". just because its not your style doesn't not mean dude aint doing hip hop.
 

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in case you didn't know....hip hops beginnings are very "village/homo" inspired. my mother and father told me many stories growing up about the pioneers of hip hop. it wasn't a hetero dominant genre when it started.
:leon:......dat perspective :sas2:
 

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the fakeness killed it. people not really going through the struggle.

that's how the best music made....when you actually going through in life.......its no realness in mainstream hip hop.

This.

If we are going to blame one person it should definitely be Diddy.

Jayz said it himself in the Breakfest club interview. Diddy is the reason that things are so f'd up for lyricist today.

From co-signing Ross to making the Lox wear shiny suits. He is responsible for making "being fake" popular.
 

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Than hip-hop is dead shyt is corny. But The internet changed hip-hop forever, not only piracy but it broke down barriers between regional markets leading, leading to a merging of sounds nationally AMD globally. Hip hop lost a lot of micro markets that allowed independent artist to thrive in places like the Bay, New Orleans, Houston, Atlanta, Chicago, Ohio, etc.

Those thriving independent artist them were also isolated, so influences didn't spill over as much and each region had its own unique sounds, that's why the 90's seemed to have so much variety and creativity.

the internet is so overrated on here. it didnt break down any barriers.

most of those cities you named were doing way better before the biggest internet boom. we knew who those artists were. just about everybody watched BET, the box, mtv, etc.

and no, there isnt one merged national sound. most cities/regions still have their own styles for the most part outside of whats being presented in the mainstream. and you know why the mainstream playlists sound like one long song? because of the corporate monopolies that control whats being played.

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in case you didn't know....hip hops beginnings are very "village/homo" inspired. my mother and father told me many stories growing up about the pioneers of hip hop. it wasn't a hetero dominant genre when it started.

this is wrong.

for starters, none of these pics are from hip-hop's beginnings.

secondly, their gear wasnt village/homo inspired.:laugh: they wore outlandish costumes. not gay gear. and they wore stuff like that because they looked up to the funk groups that preceeded them and thought that they were supposed to dress that way in order to have showmanship as entertainers. until jam-master jay & run dmc came out and deaded that chit.
 
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secondly, their gear wasnt village/homo inspired.:laugh: they wore outlandish costumes. not gay gear. and they wore stuff like that because they looked up to the funk groups that preceeded them and thought that they were supposed to dress that way in order to have showmanship as entertainers.

:comeon:breh.........................them nikkas gay.

and i saw one of them whodini nikkas on some "where are they now?" type of show and he was doin suspect shyt..not to mention the godfather of hiphop is a known dikksukker (afrikka bam batti boi)
 

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:comeon:breh.........................them nikkas gay.

and i saw one of them whodini nikkas on some "where are they now?" type of show and he was doin suspect shyt..not to mention the godfather of hiphop is a known dikksukker (afrikka bam batti boi)

of course some of them are gay. theres gay people EVERYWHERE. some of your favorite gangsta rappers, ball-players, friends, relatives, neighborhood thugs & dope boys are gay/bi-sexual behind closed doors.

but theres no correlation between that and the way they were dressing. thats just some of yall up here being lazy, trying to piece history together & rewrite it on the fly.

the cats that were gay or bi, they kept it behind closed doors and away from the culture.

and nobody from whodini did any suspect chit. lol @ a "where are they now" type show. cmon son.
 

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of course some of them are gay. theres gay people EVERYWHERE. some of your favorite gangsta rappers, ball-players, friends, relatives, neighborhood thugs & dope boys are gay/bi-sexual behind closed doors.

but theres no correlation between that and the way they were dressing. thats just some of yall up here being lazy, trying to piece history together & rewrite it on the fly.

the cats that were gay or bi, they kept it behind closed doors and away from the culture.

and nobody from whodini did any suspect chit. lol @ a "where are they now" type show. cmon son.
:comeon:
 

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as far as kanye goes, we were on sohh telling yall what was up 10 years ago, before college dropout even dropped.

why you think it was a communal effort by the media to blow kanye up before he even did much of anything?

now 10 years later, yall wanna act surprised and ask "what happened?"




go do your research and while youre at it, converse with people that were of that era and actually astute on the topic, instead of just exchanging daps with people in the same boat as you, making stuff up on the fly.

i knew why they dressed like that when i was a young pup. we shouldnt even be having this "debate" in 2014.
 
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nikka my mother used to bartend at studio 54 and my father DJd for Spoonie G. I have heard every story first hand.
 

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right on time with the :duck:

Because my parents were there it has to be false? You nikkas are so corny. Nobody can do anything on here. The fact that you think bar tending at 54 or being a DJ for a neighborhood rapper in that era was something out of reach lets me know you don't know anything about that era.
 

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Dre killed hip hop. Everyone got tired of waiting on Detox. One of the greatest punch lines ever in hip hop "Look Out For Detox". Then he started doing commercials with beats he probably had nothing to do with. Now he has a deal with Apple, theyre saying that there's going to be a album dropping by a huge artist. Don't expect it to be Detox.
 

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Because my parents were there it has to be false? You nikkas are so corny. Nobody can do anything on here. The fact that you think bar tending at 54 or being a DJ for a neighborhood rapper in that era was something out of reach lets me know you don't know anything about that era.

NO.

this posts just lets me know that you dont know what :duck: means.

and every rapper that wore that chit will tell you exactly what i said. alot of them already have done it. thats why its so obvious that youre full of chit. you claim to have heard every story, yet you drive off the road when talking about basic, common knowledge chit. youre not fooling anybody with an ounce of sense.
 

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the internet is so overrated on here. it didnt break down any barriers.

most of those cities you named were doing way better before the biggest internet boom. we knew who those artists were. just about everybody watched BET, the box, mtv, etc.

and no, there isnt one merged national sound. most cities/regions still have their own styles for the most part outside of whats being presented in the mainstream. and you know why the mainstream playlists sound like one long song? because of the corporate monopolies that control whats being played.



this is wrong.

for starters, none of these pics are from hip-hop's beginnings.

secondly, their gear wasnt village/homo inspired.:laugh: they wore outlandish costumes. not gay gear. and they wore stuff like that because they looked up to the funk groups that preceeded them and thought that they were supposed to dress that way in order to have showmanship as entertainers. until jam-master jay & run dmc came out and deaded that chit.
I was arguing that the internet hurt regional artist.
 
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