I just started watching "Goodbye, Uncle Tom"

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It is very hard to watch, but I got some of my friends to watch it and some questions came up that I never thought about like:

Why did the Africans help enslave their fellow Africans for so long?
Why were they so trusting of the Europeans?
Why did the slaves continue to procreate (aside from the rapes) and bring children into slavery?
Did the Europeans try to enslave the Native Americans? Why or why not?
Why didn't the first slaves off of the boat fight to the death?

thoughts....


Slavery was a form of servitude amongst Africans as slaves were able to buy their freedom, marry etc.. It was when the Arab and Europeans came when it became in humane. You have to remember their was no race concept that was created recently amongst the Arabs and Europeans. African.

They were because they thought they has a solid trade partner as the African been trading with Japs, Chinese, Americas for centuries before. It was when they realize what they were doing with their people but it was too late. There is documents from African kings and chiefs discussing this betrayal.

Lmao dumb question if you ask me while you alive you will still make the best out of the situation

Europeans did try to enslave Indians and if it was successful some Africans wouldn't been in Americas.

I don't believe that all Africans were bought on boats because it is insanely impossible if you add the math up. I believe Africans were here and had civilizations here.
 

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Sure. Racial oppression, or racial formations, were introduced during the transatlantic slave trade of the 1500s to rationalize mercantile capitalism. Remember, the only reason Africans were brought to the Americas was solely for exploitative labor, thus wealthy planters and other owners of the means of production profiting off of free labor. racism, or what I call racial oppression is a social construct utilized to keep modes of production in place in a capitalist market. I argue that the transformative racial oppression (chattel slavery, then sharecropping, then the creation of the black working class, etc.) is tied to the transformation of the political economy of America (mercantile capitalism to agricultural capitalism to industrial capitalism, etc.)

if you want more of a detailed description, see Du Bois' Black Reconstruction in America and Oliver Cromwell Cox's Caste, Class, and Race..both of these works outline the historical, sociological, and psychological methods of racial oppression, which I argue is tied directly to capitalist hegemony.

Trust, me both books will answer your questions and raise more. THen you hit up the big homie Frantz Fanon's Black Skin, White masks and Sundiata Cha-Jua's Race Struggles. We can have alot of great convo on this, fam. I know you will enjoy.
There's a book that just came out about this called The Half Has Never Been Told.
 

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I don't believe that all Africans were bought on boats because it is insanely impossible if you add the math up. I believe Africans were here and had civilizations here.

This is ridiculous and has been debunked many times. Check Michael Gomez's Exchanging our Country's Marks which traces the earliest African origins on North American soil.
 

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the mother wheel is always a possibility...

You're aware more people died during the crossings than made it to the Americas right?


I'd like to hear @Marvel @lotty @Czar @Blackking @GetInTheTruck & @HebrewAllahTripleDarkness opinions though.
I agree with him but, a lot of people did die coming here. I believe it was blacks here before also but, I need to do more research on it but, so far its looking like blacks were here already but not in high numbers. This is what I want to study deeply soon because the people I hear this from, and who go deep about it, are people like Taj Tarik Bey. He knows A LOT of shyt about the origins of laws which connect with the moores of America who were black but, again he may be biased because he is part of that group. That stuff is deep, and means I need to learn the laws to see the connection. That is a lot of work.
 

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the mother wheel is always a possibility...

You're aware more people died during the crossings than made it to the Americas right?


I'd like to hear @Marvel @lotty @Czar @Blackking @GetInTheTruck & @HebrewAllahTripleDarkness opinions though.

This proves my point even more. It is physically impossible.

Come on man this ship for two months with pregnant woman, old young sick and more on a two month trip across the water. How were they fed where was the food stored.. Hurricane seasons in the Carribean last a couple of Months, most European lands were hostile against each other French vs British etc...

They think we are really stupid with this history Shyt

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This is ridiculous and has been debunked many times. Check Michael Gomez's Exchanging our Country's Marks which traces the earliest African origins on North American soil.

Never heard of this guy but he better have some awesome explanation for his points. Majority of Africans were already here breh.

I agree with him but, a lot of people did die coming here. I believe it was blacks here before also but, I need to do more research on it but, so far its looking like blacks were here already but not in high numbers. This is what I want to study deeply soon because the people I hear this from, and who go deep about it, are people like Taj Tarik Bey. He knows A LOT of shyt about the origins of laws which connect with the moores of America who were black but, again he may be biased because he is part of that group. That stuff is deep, and means I need to learn the laws to see the connection. That is a lot of work.

Dude the evidence is everywhere which is sad to say but people won't believe it unless you hear it from European sources even though they admit it as well and the Mexicans/Indians. Shyt Columbus found Hati/D.R from a African. People forget after 1500 Europeans regain control of Europe once and for all but before that it was Moors, Africans and The Chinese who were sailing the seas.
 

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1. africans had slavery before encountering arabs and christians, so the practice lasted because they had been doing it and made it a part of their way of life. of course, all being black, there was no racial component (nationality was the deciding factor), and lacking a robust local production economy, their value was primarily in personal service to elite africans until contact with non africans occurred. once muslims and christians started dealing with africa in a substantial way, african slavers had a new economic incentive to start capturing more slaves than usual so they could trade them for the types of goods that you couldnt get in africa. in both the christian and islamic slave trade, slave trading lasted long because it was lucrative, but in terms of the islamic slave trade, it was further fueled by increasing racial consciousness of muslim africans who claim arab ancestry, wheras the europeans kept it strictly business until their countries banned the importation of new slaves.

2. it was not a matter of trust. it was opportunism.if you capture a person and trade him to a foreigner for rifles, you clearly dont care about his fate.

3. slaves procreate because most people are not nihilists. some managed to kill themselves on the way to the americas, a small number did manage to kill their own children (see margaret garner), but just like jews in the holocaust, most people keep trying to live until somebody else finally snuffs out their life.

4. yes, they tried to enslave natives but two things happened: the mortality rate was incredibly high due to the lack of immunity to disease; and the catholic church eventually came to see the natives as too noble for slavery (see bartolome de las casas).

5. some slaves tried to battle on the ships in the atlantic, others tried to kill themselves and some even succeeded in doing so by starving themselves or drowning, but ultimately you cant fight if you are shackled, in poor health due to a hellish time on the ship, have no idea where you are, and were not a fighter to begin with back in africa. the ship was a better place to fight, once you land at a slave port, there will be heavily armed white men everywhere. since i already established that most people are not nihilists, you are most likely going to see those rifles and start behaving.


Thank you, sir.
 

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He's an agent. Slavery was a false flag operation.

I would imagine it's possible that the original man, the Moor, brought the whites to America but in an experiment the roles became reversed and was unable to be fixed until the motherwheel revolves counter clockwise on it's y axis for a yet to be determined number of years
 
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