I know this fukked Whitney up for minute

[Po pimp]

What is this about black folks not fukking with Whitney until the 90s?

 

[ultraflexed]

nikkas in here guessing. Here's what really happened. Clive's focus with Whitney was always pop.
You Give Good Love was an offering to the R&B audience to shore up support with Black ppl in case the pop gambit failed.
Once white folks got a whiff of her and liked her, Clive went all the way pop with her.
Had her doing shyt like this:


But also, you have to look at the musical climate of the mid-80's. Black artists were scoring big with pop music.
You had The Pointers Sisters, Patti LaBelle, Billy Ocean, Lionel Richie, etc all making serious bank with pop music with a hint of Blackness.
Rick James gave Eddie Murphy a pop record and it sold like hotcakes. The Calloways left Midnight Star to do that white ass I Wanna Be Rich song.
Of course, Michael and Prince were doing whatever they wanted musically. So Whitney was just going with the flow, and selling mad records because of it.
In the mid-80's, to the untrained eye it appeared that racism was near obsolete in America. Black ppl were dominating mass media (Michael, Whitney, Jordan, Cosby, Eddie) making it seem as if Black ppl were being embraced into the fiber of American society. Of course, closer inspection told a different story.
Spike Lee examined this brilliantly in Do The Right Thing.


Three things changed the tide near the end of the decade.
-The racial incidents involving Tawana Brawley, Yusuf Hawkins and Howard Beach.
-The explosion of hip-hop from the underground
-Teddy Riley and New Jack Swing
Due to these events, young Black people were more racially conscious in the late 80's than in the mid-80s.
The music reflected the attitude. Black music started getting more aggressive, more street. Bobby's My Prerogative was the game changer and the new template.
The icons of the 80's had to deal with this sea change.
Prince handled it poorly and his music suffered for it. Lionel stayed out of sight after catching a public beatdown from his wife.
Michael ditched Quincy for Teddy Riley and made one of the best records of his career.
Whitney decided to stay the course and that's when the booing happened at the Soul Train Awards.
She tried to win back Black favor with the I'm Your Baby Tonight album.
Then The Bodyguard happened. The phenomenon of the soundtrack and film only strengthened her position as a pop artist.
It wasn't until 1998's My Love Is Your Love album that Whitney made an R&B focused album that captured what R&B fans were looking for without alienating her pop fans.

TL;DR After hip hop and cacs showing out, young pro Black listeners wasnt with the mid-80's pop shyt no more. It was too white sounding. Whitney symbolized a sellout mindset to them. Got booed.

False, whitney's first album r&b album was in 1988 "I'm your baby tonight" she brought in babyface to work on that album and then the tide slowly turned in her favor.

Then she straight murdered the bodyguard soundtrack rode that momentum into "waiting to exhale" and that's the soundtrack that put her over the top with black people

Also whitney's voice was GONE by the time the 1998 your love is my love album came out, people noticed on her first single "heart break hotel" she was the third wheel behind faith and Kelly price on that song she didnt sound like yourself, everyone knew whitney's career was pretty much over m

 

[ultraflexed]

What is this about black folks not fukking with Whitney until the 90s?

Late 80's give or take a year or 2

 

[Ol’Otis]

1988

'90

 

[semicko82]

Those comparing Whitney and Anita, just remember the GOAT used to listen to Anita’s music before going on the court

 

[Ol’Otis]

Those comparing Whitney and Anita, just remember the GOAT used to listen to Anita’s music before going on the court

 

[Ol’Otis]

@Rhap.So.D see what you started



why breh why

 

[Master Teacher]

when bro said Janet was a better singer than Whitney...

I said she was made better music, what don't understand its true

all whitney houston songs sound the same, and her R&B album she did with baby face was wack lmao, go google the album reviews that came out when the album drop

yall talking about music that wasn't even in your era and don't even go look up what the impact was lmao

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

Those comparing Whitney and Anita, just remember the GOAT used to listen to Aretha’s music before going on the court

 

[ultraflexed]

Actually athrea use to hate on whitney, ever see the interviews

 

[Po pimp]

Late 80's give or take a year or 2

Black people like Whitney from the beginning. It was her SECOND album that was deemed too pop.

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

Actually athrea use to hate on whitney, ever see the interviews

Aretha was close to Cissy and Whitney Houston. Cissy was practically Arethas Kelly Rowland. That haunting Soprano you hear in the background is Whitney's mama

 

[semicko82]

Nope breh it was Anita

 

[ultraflexed]

Aretha was close to Cissy and Whitney Houston. Cissy was practically Arethas Kelly Rowland. That haunting Soprano you hear in the background is Whitney's mama

Even with that said, Aretha never publicly spoke high of whitney, pull up the interview at Aretha's house, she acted like she really never knew whitney when they brought her up

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

Even with that said, Aretha never publicly spoke high of whitney, pull up the interview at Aretha's house, she acted like she really never knew whitney when they brought her up