I know this fukked Whitney up for minute

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I feel like Jody Watley or Janet would be a better comparison for 80s Whitney than Anita.
 
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I’ve said on here many times black folks wasn’t fukking with Whitney like that till after the Bodyguard. I remember my pops calling her and Lionel Richie sellouts. A lot of it had to do with the fact that her mother was this great gospel singer and Whitney ended up being a pop tart

Yup

My dad use to call Lionel Richie's music "sleepy lounge ass music" :mjlol:

He was like, "man, I don't know wanna hear that sad shyt!" :camby:
 

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My dad use to call Lionel Richie's music "sleepy lounge ass music" :mjlol:

He was like, "man, I don't know wanna hear that sad shyt!" :camby:
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Whitney was pop and had mainstream appeal in the beginning and we saw it for what it was. Black people listened, but we had other options before her songs. I think a lot of older folks gave her a chance for some of her less pop-y songs (but not obviously R&B) because she was Cissy Houston's daughter. That's all I ever heard from older folks back then. I had no clue who Cissy Houston was back then.
 

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It is difficult for the Smartphone Generation to understand that by and large, most folks who
were fans of Whitney were also fans of Anita.

I remember watching that Soul Train Awards show. Yes, the reaction in that L.A. theater
did reflect that a vocal segment of r&b fans that had felt that "Saving All My Love" Whitney
had been erased by "I Wanna Dance With Somebody" Whitney.

The rumor was that she/Clive Davis were marketing her to be so pop that she was
completely separated from the r&b audience.

The most glaring example was the 1986 King Holiday birthday tribute song, which featured everyone
from Run-DMC, Kurtis Blow and the Fat Boys to Full Force, Stephanie Mills, Menudo, El DeBarge, Teena Marie, Lisa Lisa, and JT from Kool and the Gang.

It was said that Whitney and Clive did not want her to be filmed in the same studio with rappers, so
they had to shoot her portion separately. From then on, us younger fans in the community began to give her the side eye.

 
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False, whitney's first album r&b album was in 1988 "I'm your baby tonight" she brought in babyface to work on that album and then the tide slowly turned in her favor.

Then she straight murdered the bodyguard soundtrack rode that momentum into "waiting to exhale" and that's the soundtrack that put her over the top with black people

Also whitney's voice was GONE by the time the 1998 your love is my love album came out, people noticed on her first single "heart break hotel" she was the third wheel behind faith and Kelly price on that song she didnt sound like yourself, everyone knew whitney's career was pretty much over m

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I'm Your Baby Tonight came out in 90, not 88. And I said it was an R&B album.
She had 3 songs on Waiting To Exhale. Only one was a single, which was an R&B hit. I wouldn't call that over the top.
My Love Is Your Love did very well for Whitney. There was nothing wrong with her voice on Heartbreak Hotel or any of the songs on that album.
Her voice showed signs of wear in concert due to her smoking and drug use.
But her voice wasn't noticeably shot on record until her last album I Look To You.
 
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