It’s not cookout music, I get more of a skating rink vibe from itPerfect weather for one too...one of y'all go head and try it out
I know this fukked Whitney up for minute
- Thread starter Ol’Otis
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That shyt was for cleaning up on saturdays and Spike Lee soundtracksBut who gonna play Jazzy elevator music at a cookout though?
But who gonna play Jazzy elevator music at a cookout though?
how old are you, not even being funny...do you know how many times "sweet love" has been played at cookouts, graduations, prison homecomings, family reunions?
Dr. Narcisse
Veteran
That staccato technique
In Living Color ruined this song for me
Hold up, for all you dudes talking about revisionist history - explain this image from the documentary WHITNEY (on HULU now):
but here she talks about it go to 7:22 (it won't let me time stamp)
but in the documentary, she said this bothered her a lot, her own AUNT said it and Bobby said it
A lot of people forget her FIRST ever song was "How will I know" that was 2 years before "I wanna dance w/somebody" these were white pop songs, not R&B at all.
Whitney was getting drove back in those days
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"Sweet love" is the type of song you use to test out the sound system levels before the party starts. Ain't nobody dancing to that
do you know how many times "sweet love" has been played at cookouts, graduations, prison homecomings, family reunions?
ExactlyThat shyt was for cleaning up on saturdays and Spike Lee soundtracks
I've done thisI challenge all the nikkas doubting this to put on I Wanna Dance With Somebody at the next cookout and get back to us on how that went
no, but nobody is dancing to "what's going on" either, we're mostly fellowshipping at those type of events...you do know that right?
Taadow
The StarchBishop™️
FeverPitch2
Superstar
nikkas in here guessing. Here's what really happened. Clive's focus with Whitney was always pop.
You Give Good Love was an offering to the R&B audience to shore up support with Black ppl in case the pop gambit failed.
Once white folks got a whiff of her and liked her, Clive went all the way pop with her.
Had her doing shyt like this:
But also, you have to look at the musical climate of the mid-80's. Black artists were scoring big with pop music.
You had The Pointers Sisters, Patti LaBelle, Billy Ocean, Lionel Richie, etc all making serious bank with pop music with a hint of Blackness.
Rick James gave Eddie Murphy a pop record and it sold like hotcakes. The Calloways left Midnight Star to do that white ass I Wanna Be Rich song.
Of course, Michael and Prince were doing whatever they wanted musically. So Whitney was just going with the flow, and selling mad records because of it.
In the mid-80's, to the untrained eye it appeared that racism was near obsolete in America. Black ppl were dominating mass media (Michael, Whitney, Jordan, Cosby, Eddie) making it seem as if Black ppl were being embraced into the fiber of American society. Of course, closer inspection told a different story.
Spike Lee examined this brilliantly in Do The Right Thing.
Three things changed the tide near the end of the decade.
-The racial incidents involving Tawana Brawley, Yusuf Hawkins and Howard Beach.
-The explosion of hip-hop from the underground
-Teddy Riley and New Jack Swing
Due to these events, young Black people were more racially conscious in the late 80's than in the mid-80s.
The music reflected the attitude. Black music started getting more aggressive, more street. Bobby's My Prerogative was the game changer and the new template.
The icons of the 80's had to deal with this sea change.
Prince handled it poorly and his music suffered for it. Lionel stayed out of sight after catching a public beatdown from his wife.
Michael ditched Quincy for Teddy Riley and made one of the best records of his career.
Whitney decided to stay the course and that's when the booing happened at the Soul Train Awards.
She tried to win back Black favor with the I'm Your Baby Tonight album.
Then The Bodyguard happened. The phenomenon of the soundtrack and film only strengthened her position as a pop artist.
It wasn't until 1998's My Love Is Your Love album that Whitney made an R&B focused album that captured what R&B fans were looking for without alienating her pop fans.
TL;DR After hip hop and cacs showing out, young pro Black listeners wasnt with the mid-80's pop shyt no more. It was too white sounding. Whitney symbolized a sellout mindset to them. Got booed.
You Give Good Love was an offering to the R&B audience to shore up support with Black ppl in case the pop gambit failed.
Once white folks got a whiff of her and liked her, Clive went all the way pop with her.
Had her doing shyt like this:
But also, you have to look at the musical climate of the mid-80's. Black artists were scoring big with pop music.
You had The Pointers Sisters, Patti LaBelle, Billy Ocean, Lionel Richie, etc all making serious bank with pop music with a hint of Blackness.
Rick James gave Eddie Murphy a pop record and it sold like hotcakes. The Calloways left Midnight Star to do that white ass I Wanna Be Rich song.
Of course, Michael and Prince were doing whatever they wanted musically. So Whitney was just going with the flow, and selling mad records because of it.
In the mid-80's, to the untrained eye it appeared that racism was near obsolete in America. Black ppl were dominating mass media (Michael, Whitney, Jordan, Cosby, Eddie) making it seem as if Black ppl were being embraced into the fiber of American society. Of course, closer inspection told a different story.
Spike Lee examined this brilliantly in Do The Right Thing.
Three things changed the tide near the end of the decade.
-The racial incidents involving Tawana Brawley, Yusuf Hawkins and Howard Beach.
-The explosion of hip-hop from the underground
-Teddy Riley and New Jack Swing
Due to these events, young Black people were more racially conscious in the late 80's than in the mid-80s.
The music reflected the attitude. Black music started getting more aggressive, more street. Bobby's My Prerogative was the game changer and the new template.
The icons of the 80's had to deal with this sea change.
Prince handled it poorly and his music suffered for it. Lionel stayed out of sight after catching a public beatdown from his wife.
Michael ditched Quincy for Teddy Riley and made one of the best records of his career.
Whitney decided to stay the course and that's when the booing happened at the Soul Train Awards.
She tried to win back Black favor with the I'm Your Baby Tonight album.
Then The Bodyguard happened. The phenomenon of the soundtrack and film only strengthened her position as a pop artist.
It wasn't until 1998's My Love Is Your Love album that Whitney made an R&B focused album that captured what R&B fans were looking for without alienating her pop fans.
TL;DR After hip hop and cacs showing out, young pro Black listeners wasnt with the mid-80's pop shyt no more. It was too white sounding. Whitney symbolized a sellout mindset to them. Got booed.
Ol’Otis
The Picasso of the Ghetto
BmoreGorilla
Veteran
But who gonna play Jazzy elevator music at a cookout though?
That shyt was for cleaning up on saturdays and Spike Lee soundtracks
That shyt was for cac clubs and little kids bday parties
BmoreGorilla
Veteran
I guarantee you didn’t hear one person say “awww shyt that was my jam!”I've done this
Dap + Rep
You always have the worst takes...like on everything.shyt sound a celine dion song lmao, yall nigaz really exposing yourselves, whitney was a black woman who sung white SONGS written by white people
you didn't even post her R&B joints lmao, cacs told you whitney was the best and you ran with it lmao
Whitney is not fukking with Anita Baker period
