I own a PS4 & 70 games, Switch & 20: ZELDA BOTW is the best game of both consoles by a huge gap.

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Yup. Game does open world far better than Seikiro, Demon souls, or Ghosts of Tsunumisha

Game has best combat in modern gaming by a long shot, with dark souls/demon souls a distant second

2 out of 3 of those games you listed aren't open world tho, lol smh.

I liked BOTW, a lot, but I don't agree with it having the best combat outright. It does have some very cool mechanics tho.
 

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Im referring to open world, free form, 3rd person, 3-D combat.

Oh ok. Those comparisons get kinda hazy in that case. And if one is being that inclusive of 3d combat games, then it definitely isn't the best around on strictly combat, considering there's many other games that combat is the primary focus of the games. Hell, the 30 fps alone would rather mar that some. I wouldn't even say it's the most inventive in that case, but it does have some innovations.
 

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I've said it once I'll say it again: BOTW, HZD, and TLOU all suffer from the same problem. Games which are great from a technical standpoint but fukking boring as fukk to play.

I wouldn't put BOTW in the same category as TLOU and HZD. In BOTW there wasn't anything to motivate me to push through and complete the game. I still havent beat it till this day because I see no point.

I'd give BOTW a 8/10 good game but boring. I prefer narrative driven games like The Witcher 3, Skyrim and obviously TLOU 1 and HZD

TLOU 1 was 10/10 HZD is 9/10.

Won't argue with anyone that liked BOTW but that shyt was far from a masterpiece. I even prefer the older Zelda games
 

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I wouldn't put BOTW in the same category as TLOU and HZD. In BOTW there wasn't anything to motivate me to push through and complete the game. I still havent beat it till this day because I see no point.

I'd give BOTW a 8/10 good game but boring. I prefer narrative driven games like The Witcher 3, Skyrim and obviously TLOU 1 and HZD

TLOU 1 was 10/10 HZD is 9/10.

Won't argue with anyone that liked BOTW but that shyt was far from a masterpiece. I even prefer the older Zelda games

BOTW is a7/10 to me. I give it 7 because it is technically a great game. Mechanically it's boring as hell and the weapon degredation system is :scust:.

I think they could Improve on BOTW using the same system just add a little more Zelda to it and it would be a masterpiece, but BOTW isn't a masterpiece at all.
 

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You realize Nintendo shares tanked to $12 dollars at it's lowest point during the Wii U's run? I'm a shareholder and I was hemorrhaging money, as were they.

So maybe you've got it backwards. Maybe YOU'RE the dumbass, and don't know enough to recognize what's smart and what isn't.
 

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You realize Nintendo shares tanked to $12 dollars at it's lowest point during the Wii U's run? I'm a shareholder and I was hemorrhaging money, as were they.

So maybe you've got it backwards. Maybe YOU'RE the dumbass, and don't know enough to recognize what's smart and what isn't.

Their stock price was low but their balance sheet was solid. Nintendo was doing just fine even with the poor performance of the Wii U. The DS was still making bank for them. They were never under threat of going the route of Sega.
 

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Their stock price was low but their balance sheet was solid. Nintendo was doing just fine even with the poor performance of the Wii U. The DS was still making bank for them. They were never under threat of going the route of Sega.

Yea Nintendo’s handhelds are always on point. GBA, DS and 3DS all have amazing libraries. And now the switch is the next in line from that success. People talking about their doom is over exaggerating it.
 

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Their stock price was low but their balance sheet was solid. Nintendo was doing just fine even with the poor performance of the Wii U. The DS was still making bank for them. They were never under threat of going the route of Sega.
The balance sheet was admittedly solid, Nintendo is a conservative company and always makes it a point to stay in the black (I think the Wii U was the first console they sold at an initial loss EVER). But while the 3DS did decent, it did not do even close to the numbers put up by the DS. Don't let nostalgia shade your glasses:

Nintendo president says 3DS momentum is 'not so good' in US and Europe

That was Iwata acknowledging the 3DS underperforming 6 months prior to the Wii U dropping..and really bringing the house down

I remember all of this very vividly because I had some finances were closely tied to Nintendo, like $2K with them. I actually sold off most of it when Pokemon Go spiked their share price (a decision I regret, now I only have 6 or 7 shares or something).

Would the situation have been as dire as Sega after the Dreamcast? Probably not, maybe that comparison was a little much, but two failed hardware runs in a row would've backed even the GOAT into a tight corner, that much we all should be able to agree on.
 
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