I Really Do Feel Wrestling Is HEADED For A BOOM Period

[AKM-95]

I think that TV executives have finally realized that proweestling can be a cheap source for original programming.

As long as you follow LU, WSX, or even Paragon ProWrestling model of getting promotions to pay for time or for networks/ production companies owning the Wrestling promotion.

 

[DocZulu]

@Box Cutta

You have completely misrepresented the video. Jim Cornette is talking about how the wrestling industry has cannibalized itself.

That what we regard as the boom period led to the birth of the super-corporations (WCW & WWF) and destroyed the territories.

The 80's, as he put it, were the "downhill slide" because the corporate wrestling entities were trying to appeal to non-wrestling fans.

Indeed, I am a good example of why Cornette is concerned for American wrestling. I have stopped watching the WWE because I love the sport.

Yet I refuse to watch the crap that WWE Corporate is putting out.

Jim Cornette, in other words, believes that companies should commit to their audience, no differently than how comic book fans support comic books (and comic book movies).

While I do not foresee another boom, that does not mean that the audience for the sport is dead.

Boom? Are you kidding? People hate wrestling.

When the Hogan story broke, how many Coli members alone chimed in for the first time here saying "LMAO, y'all nikkas watch wrestling?
"

It's a joke.



^ I don't agree with everything, but this is a good approximation of my feelings toward wrestling right now.

 

[DocZulu]

According to Al Snow, in WWE (and TNA) everything is planned, nothing is left to chance. And he makes a distinction between "Wrestlers" and "Workers".

 

[dh86]

Remember in 07 and 08 it was just basically WWE? TNA was on at 11 P.M. on Saturday nights on SPIKE. Wrestling came a long way since then.

Not really

 

[SirReginald]

Not really

More promotions on national tv.

 

[mrken12]

According to Al Snow, in WWE (and TNA) everything is planned, nothing is left to chance. And he makes a distinction between "Wrestlers" and "Workers".

Heavily scripting promos was the worst thing to happen to mainstream wrestling. Guys loved old school wrestlers like Dusty Rhodes, Flair, Savage, etc. because they had freedom in their promos to improvise and show their personality. Since most wrestlers aren't professional actors, making them memorize a script will strip some of that authenticity that is seen in promos with fewer restrictions.

 

[Rayzah]

there isn't TNA is in shambles, LU isn't confirmed for a 2nd seaons, GFW doesn't even have a network, ROH just got moved to another time slot, NJPW expanding into america with WK9 wasn't the huge success folks had hoped for.

Wrestling simply isn't popular anymore...

To be fair NOBODY gets those channels, like what do they expect? It seems like these companies dont have a fair shot to succeed, like the networks are too quick to give up on them.. TNA was a gaurentted 1 million viewers on spike and they canceled it. To be honest ROH and TNA and what ever GFW is doing should have merged a LONG time ago.

no boom unless they begin to actually make pro wrestling an actual athletic contest and can differentiate themselves to be more exciting than MMA where they can avoid the boring stuff on the ground with rules and still have the crazy promos and entrances...would have to be a hybrid that Vince created and some of the wwe talent would have to excel in it with crossover stuff

I mean how long has they been on the Entertainment competing with other tv shows bs, it hasn't worked the industry has become a joke do to them forcing this shyt on the fans.. They will NEVER be looked at as anything but a fake sport to the masses.. They need to embrace it

so if daniel bryan was on the cusp of becoming such a huge superstar, and he was the most watched wrestler on tv for an entire year... why the did the network struggle with subscriptions right out the gate? why isn't he as big as john cena?

The network struggles had nothing to do with anyone, that shyt just showed how much people would invest in WWE in 2014, it also had to do with it not being overseas yet. Those subscriptions shot up as soon as it became available everywhere... One person cant sell and entire network...

He aint as big as he should be cause he cant stay healthy, lets not act like he wasn't the hottest wrestler in 2013-14 like he wasn't getting the biggest reaction... I am not saying he would have lead the boom but the product would have been better and you cant start a boom if you have no big stars that everyone likes.. Cena isn't working cause all wrestling fans that watched before 2005 hate him, so he really only has half of the fanbase

 

[Westcoastnative]

Not really. There will never be a another wrestling boom period.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

The network struggles had nothing to do with anyone, that shyt just showed how much people would invest in WWE in 2014, it also had to do with it not being overseas yet. Those subscriptions shot up as soon as it became available everywhere... One person cant sell and entire network...

He aint as big as he should be cause he cant stay healthy, lets not act like he wasn't the hottest wrestler in 2013-14 like he wasn't getting the biggest reaction... I am not saying he would have lead the boom but the product would have been better and you cant start a boom if you have no big stars that everyone likes.. Cena isn't working cause all wrestling fans that watched before 2005 hate him, so he really only has half of the fanbase

you say things like "one person can't sell an entire network".

could austin sell the network in his prime? could rock? i dunno you tell me. how many people across the country were absolutely glued to the tv when they were on top? just how big and how hot were they?

what do you think all those people were tuning in for, val venis and the godfather? the brood? if you remove austin and rock from the picture and you build the attitude era on the backs of triple h and ken shamrock, do we even have a wrestling boom in the first place?

look at how ronda rousey is trending right now. people are talking about her all over the place. people are paying 50 bucks on pay per view just to see her fight. she's more over than anyone in the wwe right now, by far. and best believe if she came to the WWE she would outdraw anyone they have on the roster. hell she could probably beat the guys clean... what, the people wouldn't believe it? shyt she could be CHAMP! (in fact i would not be surprised if that was stephenie's ultimate end game)



if daniel bryan was as big as you guys claim he is, we wouldn't be having this problem period. the wwe (and the business) is precisely in the shape it's in because there are no huge superstars, and the reason there are no huge superstars is either because:

a) the wwe doesn't know / has forgotten how to create them.
b) the wwe is scared to create them.

 

[Rayzah]

you say things like "one person can't sell an entire network".

could austin sell the network in his prime? could rock? i dunno you tell me. how many people across the country were absolutely glued to the tv when they were on top? just how big and how hot were they?

what do you think all those people were tuning in for, val venis and the godfather? the brood? if you remove austin and rock from the picture and you build the attitude era on the backs of triple h and ken shamrock, do we even have a wrestling boom in the first place?

look at how ronda rousey is trending right now. people are talking about her all over the place. people are paying 50 bucks on pay per view just to see her fight. she's more over than anyone in the wwe right now, by far. and best believe if she came to the WWE she would outdraw anyone they have on the roster. hell she could probably beat the guys clean... what, the people wouldn't believe it? shyt she could be CHAMP! (in fact i would not be surprised if that was stephenie's ultimate end game)



if daniel bryan was as big as you guys claim he is, we wouldn't be having this problem period. the wwe (and the business) is precisely in the shape it's in because there are no huge superstars, and the reason there are no huge superstars is either because:

a) the wwe doesn't know / has forgotten how to create them.
b) the wwe is scared to create them.

You wanna know how I know Austin or Rock couldnt sell the network by themself? Well the rock was around even champ in 2013 and the ratings didnt see a magiacal spike, what i am saying is the attitutde era was a group effort, austin needed rock, HHH angle take all of those guys made the attitude era what it was not just austin or rock..

Hogan needed macho man and warrior or else that shyt woudhave fizzled out real quick.. Daniel bryan didnt even get a run with the title so we cant say he failed, the network is a reflection of the product and one hot star that the company didnt even want to be that hot is not going to get people backinto wrestling

 

[dh86]

More promotions on national tv.

Destination America and the El Rey network is stretching the meaning.

 

[Wacky D]

if you remove austin and rock from the picture and you build the attitude era on the backs of triple h and ken shamrock, do we even have a wrestling boom in the first place?

yes.

because WCW started that '90s wrestling boom.

not the wwf. history is distorted.

 

[mrken12]

yes.

because WCW started that '90s wrestling boom.

not the wwf. history is distorted.

If there were no Austin and Rock, WWE would have folded. You aren't building a successful wrestling company around Ken Shamrock.

Austin and Rock were two once in a lifetime superstars who brought in big money for the WWE. They helped make Vince a billionaire.

 

[Wacky D]

If there was no Austin and Rock, WWE would have folded. You aren't building a successful wrestling company around Ken Shamrock.

Austin and Rock were two once in a lifetime superstars who brought in big money for the WWE. They helped make Vince a billionaire.

i think you need to go back and re-read my post.

the point is the '90s wrestling boom didnt take off on the wwf's dime. that was WCW's work.

yall dudes is really stuck on the wwf in here.

 

[mrken12]

i think you need to go back and re-read my post.

the point is the '90s wrestling boom didnt take off on the wwf's dime. that was WCW's work.

yall dudes is really stuck on the wwf in here.

I know that. WCW had a great roster but neglected a lot of the young talent. The NWO storyline was only going to stay hot for so long. With no Rock and no Stone Cold, the late 90s would have been completely different.