I Really Do Feel Wrestling Is HEADED For A BOOM Period

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I know that. WCW had a great roster but neglected a lot of the young talent. The NWO storyline was only going to stay hot for so long. With no Rock and no Stone Cold, the late 90s would have been completely different.


the neglection of the young talent is overblown but i dont want to derail the thread.

the NWO wasnt the only thing that made wcw pop, but again, thats neither here nor there.

the bottom line is that WCW was responsible for the wrestling boom. not the wwf. not the rock & stone cold. sure, they piggy-backed and kept it going a couple more years after wcw fell off, but they didnt start it.

thats why the answer to dudes question was "YES the wrestling boom wouldve existed without the rock & stone cold" simply because IT DID. wcw already had it booming when stone cold was the ringmaster & the rock was flex havana.
 

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vince got yall brain-trained to create off-topic strawman arguments in order to protect his revisionist :duck:

its coo tho. we in here.

kiss the avi.
 

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I just feel like a small boom may pop off. Something UNLIKE before is giving me that feeling.

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the popularity of other feds stems from disgruntled smarks jumping ship and from the same people simply watching more wrestling due to accessibility. there is little to no indication that a significant amount of new fans are watching... and the ratings drop of wwe..which is the most easily accessed by potential new viewers..shows that there is 0 traction outside of the core market
 

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the neglection of the young talent is overblown but i dont want to derail the thread.

the NWO wasnt the only thing that made wcw pop, but again, thats neither here nor there.

the bottom line is that WCW was responsible for the wrestling boom. not the wwf. not the rock & stone cold. sure, they piggy-backed and kept it going a couple more years after wcw fell off, but they didnt start it.

thats why the answer to dudes question was "YES the wrestling boom wouldve existed without the rock & stone cold" simply because IT DID. wcw already had it booming when stone cold was the ringmaster & the rock was flex havana.

I never said WWE was responsible for the wrestling boom. But in the late 90s when Austin and Rock were red hot, they added another boost to the wrestling boom. Austin 3:16 shirts and Stone Cold merchandise were huge around the time and made the Stone Cold character a pop culture icon.
 

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I never said WWE was responsible for the wrestling boom. But in the late 90s when Austin and Rock were red hot, they added another boost to the wrestling boom. Austin 3:16 shirts and Stone Cold merchandise were huge around the time and made the Stone Cold character a pop culture icon.


well the bolded is what my post was all about and what i was responding to before you jumped in.

and they didnt add another "boost". they just hit their stride when wcw still had a wave and rode it out for a couple years til their wave dried up too. youre just fishing for credits cannon.
 

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the popularity of other feds stems from disgruntled smarks jumping ship and from the same people simply watching more wrestling due to accessibility. there is little to no indication that a significant amount of new fans are watching... and the ratings drop of wwe..which is the most easily accessed by potential new viewers..shows that there is 0 traction outside of the core market
Damn I didn't even know that.
 

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well the bolded is what my post was all about and what i was responding to before you jumped in.

and they didnt add another "boost". they just hit their stride when wcw still had a wave and rode it out for a couple years til their wave dried up too. youre just fishing for credits cannon.
I didn't see the strawman argument from Kill Dat Noize until I looked back at his comment in context. Mistake on my part. :yeshrug: Not even sure why he mentioned Stone Cold and Rock when the NWO blew up before Stone Cold even won the title. NWO was responsible for the boom.
 

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Hogan as a babyface and Hogan as a heel is responsible for the only 2 boom periods in wrestling history. There is not even a debate on who the GOAT is
 
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yes.

because WCW started that '90s wrestling boom.

not the wwf. history is distorted.

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wcw gave way to the boom but they didn't spearhead the boom. the wrestlemania 14 angle alone with austin and tyson was bigger than anything wcw did at that time, including hogan/sting which was their biggest angle ever.

by the 2000's nitro was only scoring 2's and 3's in the ratings. meanwhile raw was scoring 5's and 6's (and 7's). it's not even a contest. they raised the bar much, MUCH higher.

if you think that period of time in wrestling is just as big without austin and rock, then are you are a dummy. plain and simple.
 

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the popularity of other feds stems from disgruntled smarks jumping ship and from the same people simply watching more wrestling due to accessibility. there is little to no indication that a significant amount of new fans are watching... and the ratings drop of wwe..which is the most easily accessed by potential new viewers..shows that there is 0 traction outside of the core market
This.
 
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You wanna know how I know Austin or Rock couldnt sell the network by themself? Well the rock was around even champ in 2013 and the ratings didnt see a magiacal spike, what i am saying is the attitutde era was a group effort, austin needed rock, HHH angle take all of those guys made the attitude era what it was not just austin or rock..

Hogan needed macho man and warrior or else that shyt woudhave fizzled out real quick.. Daniel bryan didnt even get a run with the title so we cant say he failed, the network is a reflection of the product and one hot star that the company didnt even want to be that hot is not going to get people backinto wrestling

i'm sorry if not for austin we don't have an attitude era. we don't have a mainstream wrestling boom akin to the one we had in the 80's.

hogan and the nwo were revolutionizing the sport but they were not crossing over into mainstream media. their biggest angle ever, which was hogan and sting, was small change compared to the press wwf was getting with austin and tyson. and wwf only got bigger from there.

and who was the champ during that time? austin. who was the babyface hero in all the main event feuds? austin.

without austin, none of this happens. no one else on that roster had the charisma. you wanna know what happens if you build wrestlemania around shawn michaels and mike tyson? the same thing you get when you try and build it around shawn michaels and lawrence taylor. a.k.a. jack shyt. raw would have continued to draw new generation numbers and they would have fell to WCW.

yes it helps to have multiple superstars but when you have a huge draw that the people love and will pay to see, it doesn't really matter. if daniel bryan was over as austin was back in 98, he'd be moving more units. point blank.
 

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wcw gave way to the boom but they didn't spearhead the boom. the wrestlemania 14 angle alone with austin and tyson was bigger than anything wcw did at that time, including hogan/sting which was their biggest angle ever.

by the 2000's nitro was only scoring 2's and 3's in the ratings. meanwhile raw was scoring 5's and 6's (and 7's). it's not even a contest. they raised the bar much, MUCH higher.

if you think that period of time in wrestling is just as big without austin and rock, then are you are a dummy. plain and simple.


lol.

homie you were dappin up even backed away from you when he re-read your post or whatnot.

youre looking like an obnoxiou mark right now. dont play yourself.
 
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